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Cape Air Awarded EAS For SLK/PBG  
User currently offlineN6168E From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 48 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3305 times:

Cape Air was awarded the EAS contract for Saranac Lake and Plattsburgh to BOS.

From the Adirondack Daily Enterprise (Fair Use Excerpt)
SARANAC LAKE --- Cape Cod-based airline Cape Air was awarded the federal Essential Air Service subsidy by the U.S. Department of Transportation Wednesday to provide service to the Adirondack Regional Airport and the Plattsburgh International Airport.
The full article is at:
http://www.adirondackdailyenterprise.../News/articles.asp?articleID=10052

I hope they can make a go of it with the 402's. I used to work at SLK and the baggage can be horrendous at times. People spending a week skiing can travel a little heavier than the typical business traveler.

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User currently offlineEagle11 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3273 times:

I think this was the best type of service these two communities could have hoped for after the Big Sky debacle. Cape Air should provide reliable service, which is exactly what PBG and SLK need right now after what will now be their 3rd carrier(?) in the span of only a year or two.


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User currently offlineSafetyDemo From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 310 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3221 times:

Will these flights be a part of the codeshare with jetBlue? Is it an actual codeshare or more of an interline type setup they have in Boston?

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User currently offlineN6168E From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3178 times:

I didn't mean to be negative on my post. Actually, I would prefer a 402 over a Jetstream (Pan Am Clipper Connection had earlier expressed interest http://www.adirondackdailyenterprise...nclude/articles.asp?articleID=9888 ), and Cape Air has a good reputation. Another article (I can't find it right now) said that Plattsburgh and Saranac Lake would each have non-stops so the total number of seats will be close to what was offered with the 1900 and one plane would RON in SLK.

User currently offlineN6168E From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3149 times:



Quoting SafetyDemo (Reply 2):
Will these flights be a part of the codeshare with jetBlue? Is it an actual codeshare or more of an interline type setup they have in Boston?

I would say it's a codeshare. I checked JetBlue's website and Cape Air's service to Rutland, VT (RUT) is bookable there with a JetBlue flt #, so the Saranac Lake and Plattsburgh flights should be the same.


User currently offlineTeneriffe77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 465 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3143 times:

Speaking of the EAS situation in northern New York, according to News10now, Massena and Ogdensburg have both said no to Pan Am citing something that many of us know about them: that is their lack of connecting agreements with other airlines and bad reputation. http://news10now.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=133338

User currently offlineAviationAddict From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 606 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3129 times:
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Quoting N6168E (Reply 3):
Another article (I can't find it right now) said that Plattsburgh and Saranac Lake would each have non-stops so the total number of seats will be close to what was offered with the 1900 and one plane would RON in SLK.

Both routes will be 3x daily round trips to BOS and from what I've heard around the office both SLK and PBG will have a plane RON as the flights will originate from those stations.

Quoting N6168E (Reply 4):
I would say it's a codeshare. I checked JetBlue's website and Cape Air's service to Rutland, VT (RUT) is bookable there with a JetBlue flt #, so the Saranac Lake and Plattsburgh flights should be the same.

There hasn't been an official announcement yet as to how jetBlue will factor into the equation but, most likely a codeshare program will be established for both routes at some point (the codeshare to RUT kicked in about a month or so after the route opened).


User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1989 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2923 times:

I think this is great! With B6's codesharing though I wonder why Cape Air doesn't just fly some routes into JFK. I wonder if we will see any more EAS routes like Watertown, Ogdensburg, and Massena or any of the former Big Sky routes. PBG is closer to Montreal than BTV is and they have been marketing themselves as an alternate to YUL. If they did this successfully, this route will be a great success.


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User currently offlineAviationAddict From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 606 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2847 times:
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Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 7):

Are you serious??? Can you imagine what a C402 would do to the JFK pattern!!!


User currently offlineAccess-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1939 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2833 times:

Well Cape Air is flying into Rutland from Boston.....so these markets make good sense as well...Cape Air is the present day version of PBA.....I think their operation is a good thing. There should be more operations like their in other areas of the country. Who cares if its a 9 passenger piston powered aircraft, it'll get you there. People freak out about the wrong things....namely a small prop planes.....I wouldnt hesitate one bit to fly on a 402.....
When fuel costs are what dictate what and where airlines fly, then we cannot be picky.....

I wish Cape Air much success in their new cities and hope they pick up Massena, Ogdensburg and Watertown as well...

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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1989 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2741 times:



Quoting AviationAddict (Reply 8):
Are you serious??? Can you imagine what a C402 would do to the JFK pattern!!!

I don't know what it will do (I've never been there) and I don't know much about JFK. However, I figured since they already codeshare and some cities in far Northern New York would have a lot of O&D for NYC that wouldn't be a bad idea. JFK has more B6 connections than BOS does and it is a little out of your way. I'm obviously not an expert so I wouldn't know.

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 9):
Cape Air is the present day version of PBA

What's PBA?



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User currently offlineAviationAddict From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 606 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2699 times:
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Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 10):
I don't know what it will do (I've never been there) and I don't know much about JFK. However, I figured since they already codeshare and some cities in far Northern New York would have a lot of O&D for NYC that wouldn't be a bad idea. JFK has more B6 connections than BOS does and it is a little out of your way. I'm obviously not an expert so I wouldn't know.

My point was that JFK is so big and so busy a small piston powered plane like a 402 chugging along at 100-120 knots would back up the pattern so badly it would probably send the already delayed ridden airport into complete disarray.

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 10):
What's PBA?

Provincetown-Boston Airlines. The name was little misleading though as they flew to many destinations across the East Coast.


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