Thorben From Germany, joined Sep 2005, 3233 posts, RR: 4 Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12910 times:
Quoting Deaphen (Thread starter): Here she is, probaby waiting final colours , maybe she will adorn AI colours for the lease you think?
Very nice, I've been waiting for this, thanx for sharing. I think the colours will stay like that, but there'll be AI stickers on it. IT logo on the engines will be painted over.
What else is around at TLS? IT A332, TP A332. Some more outside these days?
Astuteman From United Kingdom (England), joined Jan 2005, 6148 posts, RR: 84 Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12875 times:
Astuteman From United Kingdom (England), joined Jan 2005, 6148 posts, RR: 84 Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12875 times:
Powercube From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 12642 times:
So are HGW A345s capable of carrying a decent amount of revenue cargo on missions like SFO-BLR or can we still expect to hear about weight restrictions? Regardless wide-body Airbuses look fantastic in the IT livery
TriniA340 From Trinidad And Tobago, joined Nov 2005, 95 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 12532 times:
So how far can an A345HGW fly fully loaded? And a regular A345?
Astuteman From United Kingdom (England), joined Jan 2005, 6148 posts, RR: 84 Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 12474 times:
Quoting TriniA340 (Reply 7): So how far can an A345HGW fly fully loaded? And a regular A345?
According to the Airbus website, the "nominal still-air range with maximum passengers" (which I presume to mean "and no cargo") is :-
8 670 Nm for the 820 000 lb "regular" A345 and
9 000 Nm for the 837 000 lb IGW A345.
TriniA340 From Trinidad And Tobago, joined Nov 2005, 95 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 12285 times:
Ok, those listed are the ranges with max pax & luggage etc, but without extra cargo. My question is how far can they fly at MTOW? I know the range for any fully loaded aircraft is much less than what the manufacturers advertise.
CV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 12091 times:
Hi!
I like very much Kingfisher's livery infact...but I'm also noting a very nice brand new TP A330-200 in the back!!! This might be one of the two that will delivered during February, either CS-TOM or CS-TON!
Regards
TriniA340 From Trinidad And Tobago, joined Nov 2005, 95 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 11837 times:
Maybe I didn't explain myself properly. How far can a fully-laden A345 fly? Certainly not 9000nm!
TriniA340 From Trinidad And Tobago, joined Nov 2005, 95 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 11598 times:
Where can one find payload-range charts for various aircraft? I think the answers will be in there....
RJ111 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3059 posts, RR: 9 Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 11421 times:
This range Range/Payload chart (page 56) for the A340-500/600 suggest the aircraft can fly approximately 7200nm with a full payload (ignoring the insignificant reduction due to MLW and fuel reserves). Obviously that is subject to vary depending on the standard things wind, takeoff height ect.
However it's not clear what MTOW version the aircraft is, i'd guess it's the 372t version based on the suggested range at max pax. Knowing this i'd maybe add 200nm to the that for the 380t version. It's also not clear from that data what the max payload of the 380t version is. The data on Airbus's site suggest that would be slightly lower (than the non-HGW version) as the OEW increases more than the MZFW.
Anyway, i'd estimate an on-paper 7400nm with a full payload.
TriniA340 From Trinidad And Tobago, joined Nov 2005, 95 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 11140 times:
Thanks OldAeroGuy, A342 & RJ111. These were the answers I was looking for. Too bad only 12 more A345s to be delivered!
KL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 3286 posts, RR: 19 Reply 22, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 10337 times:
Quoting Deaphen (Thread starter): Here she is, probaby waiting final colours , maybe she will adorn AI colours for the lease you think?
Did I miss something? Why would a private company which is growing rapidly lease a new plane to a state owned airline that is not even capable of cleaning the inside of its planes, let alone the outside.. ?
BlrBird From United States, joined Apr 2005, 550 posts, RR: 2 Reply 23, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8583 times:
Quoting KL911 (Reply 22): Quoting Deaphen (Thread starter):
Here she is, probaby waiting final colours , maybe she will adorn AI colours for the lease you think?
Did I miss something? Why would a private company which is growing rapidly lease a new plane to a state owned airline that is not even capable of cleaning the inside of its planes, let alone the outside.. ?
IT can only fly international from August 2008 so was the idea of wet leasing aircrafts to AI until then. I read some where that AI is not ready to take on a very short (4-5 mnths) term lease.
Francoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 1898 posts, RR: 10 Reply 25, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7112 times:
Quoting KL911 (Reply 22): Did I miss something? Why would a private company which is growing rapidly lease a new plane to a state owned airline that is not even capable of cleaning the inside of its planes, let alone the outside.. ?
Not sure, but I believe it had something to do with Kingfisher not being allowed to fly international flights yet.
There's a weird law apparently in the Indian Civil Aviation books that say that an airline has to operate for 5 years domestically before they can be allowed to go abroad.
Not sure if that info is still current, but from what I've heard from a friend in IT, they're still waiting for that authorization (any time now).
IT bought those A330 and A340s in anticipation to their international flights, but will lease them to AI until they get the approval to use them properly.
It's just old and vague info roaming in the back of my mind, so please feel free to correct me.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
26 Vivekman2006: Something that was pointed out earlier as well.... With AI leasing the IT A345s, IT's international product will be out for the world to see, and expe
27 Baroque: So any shortage of breadfruit in Bangalore could be on-going! Otherwise, things will be OK.
28 Cricket: Northern California just about looks achievable at the edge of range - but if IT loads the plane with lots of premium F and J pax, they might be able
29 R2rho: Since you seem to know the "secret" link to the Aircraft Characteristics documents, that Boeing nicely puts up on their site while Airbus secretly hi
30 Ronerone: As always, the A345 looks sexy in each and every c/s it wears, and this will be no exception! Regards, Roni
31 Zeke: AFAIK a new airport in BLR will open this year which would allow for unrestricted ops. And a fleet of at least 20 aircraft. As far as I know it is no
32 Gilesdavies: Im confused... Why would Kingfisher or any other airline in India be wanting to purchase brand new A340-500's to fly to Tahiti, when the market is so
34 Xtoler: Seeing as how US Airways is looking to buy A340's for their PHL to China route, wouldn't this upgrade be beneficial to them?
35 Baroque: No he wasn't, it is the best place for breadfruit! Anyway, we know the Dutch never ever joke. [Edited 2008-01-20 05:56:31]
36 Thorben: From the unreliable wikipedia: "Breadfruit is one of the highest-yielding food plants, with a single tree producing up to 200 or more fruits per seas
37 Heavierthanair: G´day If they take off to the east they will be able to take advantage of the earths rotation. This in combination with improved climbing characteris
38 Baroque: While it is found all over S Asia NOW, it was native to the Malay pensinsula and Tahiti, so I imagine the newfound middle class from India will be mo
39 Thorben: When does IT start LHR? I think Bligh doesn't want to return to the UK in a nutshell for the third time. ROFL. Is O'Leary aware of this fruit? This t
40 A342: No, I'm sorry. Here's where some of the links are from: A Link For Airbus Load/ Range Charts (by SunriseValley Jul 13 2006 in Tech Ops) Well, that's
41 Airbazar: Why not? BLR is neither Hot, High, or Humid, unlike BOM which is 2 out of the 3. The HGW A345 should be able to fly the routes without much issue. Bo
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