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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3341 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2354 times:

As it relates to flying on a U.S. flagged air carrier (revenue flight) into Canada or Mexico I was recently told a flight originating in any U.S. city cannot land in a second U.S. city before entering Canada or Mexico and then reenter a final U.S. city as a final destination.

If I understood correctly any flight can originate in the U.S. fly to either Canada or Mexico and then renter the U.S.
A stop in a second U.S. makes it a no-no.

An example of an approved flight might be ANC-YVR-SEA a non- approved flight would be ANC-JNU-YVR-SEA, JNU is Juneau, Alaska which does not populate on airliners.net Juneau is located between ANC and YVR. roughly 1.5 hours from each airport as a commercial jet flies.

If this is correct I suspect this would be a treaty issue. possibly under NAFTA . I found this interesting because the North American open skies agreements currently in place are as I understand being relaxed to allow additional flying between U.S. Mexico and Canada.

I researched this for about an hour and could not find anything substantial. I'd be much obliged if anybody in the know could expand on this.

Thanks In Advance

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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 22864 posts, RR: 53
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2317 times:

I've never heard anything about this, but I'm not sure why someone would need to fly ANC-JNU-YVR-SEA when they could just fly ANC-JNU-SEA, or ANC-JNU-YVR, and then continue the same plane to SEA under a different flight number.


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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7923 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2269 times:

Thats news to me, since often times they could operate that as one flight then simply change the flight number. Also NW does MSP-YXE in the winter with a stop in YQR.

User currently offlineIPFreely From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 661 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2225 times:

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Thread starter):
An example of an approved flight might be ANC-YVR-SEA a non- approved flight would be ANC-JNU-YVR-SEA, JNU is Juneau,

Makes no sense. The plane got to ANC somehow, most likely from another US city....call it XXX. So the plane in your example is not flying ANC-YVR-SEA, it is flying XXX-ANC-YVR-SEA, which by your logic would not be approved.

User currently offlineMPDPilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 1057 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2206 times:

I think what the rule means is once a flight sets out on an international flight it needs to continue or go through the international processing again. For example if the routing was LAX-Toronto and the plane stopped in ORD for some reason the flight could not continue to Toronto until the international processing was re-done. Atleast that is the only way it would make sense to me I could be wrong. Correct me if I am wrong but aren't aircraft that are on international flights inspected before departure, and if the plane landed again it would need to be inspected again. I can't recall where I heard that but I think thats how it went, once again correct me if I am wrong.

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