I just want to take the opportunity to thank everyone who has been involved in the Swiss Threads from #1 until today. It has been highly interesting and informative and here is to many more threads! Let's keep them alive!
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 25108 posts, RR: 60 Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 1 day ago) and read 21403 times:
Hi Sandro , Although I cant understand all of the website I really enjoyed the photos in your ''Media'' section. I love the Royal Brunei photo. Tell me something the LX photos inside of the cabin, are they on the A340?? Do all A340's have this lie flat seats in J class??? They look really nice !!!
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LXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2107 posts, RR: 4 Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 23 hours ago) and read 21397 times:
Quoting OA260 (Reply 2): Do all A340's have this lie flat seats in J class???
All A343's in the LX fleet were delivered with the same seating, so yes. Even the 2nd hand planes from AC / OS also get this product. Once the A333's all classes will receive a new seating and probably this will also be installed to all A343's
SandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3385 posts, RR: 51 Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 23 hours ago) and read 21389 times:
Quoting OA260 (Reply 2): Although I cant understand all of the website I really enjoyed the photos in your ''Media'' section
Thanks very much. The maintenance pics were taken by one of my classmates who was an aircraft meachanic at SRTechnics before starting his pilot training in the same course as me.
I can also recommend the website of class 107. Obviously they're already a lot further than we are and they just returned from Florida from their IFR training.
SandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3385 posts, RR: 51 Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 20 hours ago) and read 21300 times:
Quoting OA260 (Reply 5): Welcome. I will continue to follow your progress with interest until the ''Maitre De Cabine'' announces that Captain Sandro is flying us to ZRH today
Still a long way to go, but i'll get there, eventually.
Quoting Sailas (Reply 6): Also Do they still fly the zurich alexandria route with a a340?
Who? LX? They've never flown to ALexandria, let alone with an A343. You must be thinking of CAI, and yes, they still fly it daily with A340.
RJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4107 posts, RR: 32 Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 12 hours ago) and read 21247 times:
DHL has, in addition to the night service to/from Brussels, launched an early evening departure from Basel to East Midlands. The flight is operated with a Bae ATP of Atlantic Airways. It is part of the US next day delivery concept and focussed on time sensible goods from the large Swiss agglomerations. Customers can give their freight until 15:45 (in Basel) or 12:45 (in Geneva). The freight then goes to East Midlands, will change aircraft to Wilmington and reaches the US on next day already as well as the large agglomeration in Canada and Mexiko.
Sailas From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2007, 211 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 21040 times:
Ok confusing, cause i got a pics of the a340 wing of LX my father took, but he told me he flew to alexandria.... anyway a temporary thing? How long is ZRH-CAI? 4 hours?
-Sailas
Airlines been on: AY, LX, SR, OS, SK, KF, EZY, FR, BA, LH, AF, TG, DC, FC, TK
PatZSC From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2006, 30 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 21031 times:
Hi everyone,
just heard in the news that Pakistan President Musharraf is attending the WEF in Davos this weekend. So I guess he arrives via ZRH - any idea on what plan he arrives? Please make sure to take a shot of the PIA 777 or 310, whatever comes
ZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5544 posts, RR: 40 Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 20934 times:
Latest news from ZRH: they expect about 900 additional movements during the WEF (January 23-27). There are 60 stands available for the WEF aircrafts at the airport. Therefore the boarding/deboarding time for some private aircrafts will be restricted to three hours then they have to leave the airport to park some where else. It is up to the pilots where they want to go.
At the moment only available in German: http://www.flughafen-zuerich.ch/ (click on "News" at the bottom of the page)
I read somewhere else that the Swiss Army allows to park some private aircrafts at Duebendorf airport (only a few km from ZRH).
SandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3385 posts, RR: 51 Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 20830 times:
Quoting 717fan (Reply 13): 1 or 2 months ago I read in Jetstream that Shanghai Airlines will begin 2 weekly flights to ZRH via HAM. Is this still a rumor or confirmed
Again, this rumour about Shanghai Airlines launching ZRH has been around for months, aswell as CA launching PEK-ZRH. I'll believe it when i see it, but would love to see it.
SandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3385 posts, RR: 51 Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 20730 times:
Quoting Infodesk (Reply 16): Yesterday alone about 30 private aircraft had to land at Dübendorf as there was no tarmac space at Zrh. Looks set to continue too
I was at the pilotshop in the GAC today at around 17:30-18:00, and there certainly was "some" activity going on
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21679 posts, RR: 23 Reply 18, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 20687 times:
Quoting ZRH (Reply 11): Quoting Sailas (Reply 9):
Ok confusing, cause i got a pics of the a340 wing of LX my father took, but he told me he flew to alexandria..
Probably he flew to Alexandria but changed planes in Cairo.
LH operates Frankfurt-Alexandria nonstop 3 times a week using the A319.
ZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5544 posts, RR: 40 Reply 19, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 20570 times:
SWISS opened the new first class lounge at Zurich airport. It is the third after GVA and JFK: http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/about_sw...0122.aspx?1201106635575&Country=CH
Till June they will open the other new lounges at ZRH. The overall size of all lounges will be 50% larger than before: 3000 sqm.
ZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5544 posts, RR: 40 Reply 20, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 20555 times:
Quoting PatZSC (Reply 10): just heard in the news that Pakistan President Musharraf is attending the WEF in Davos this weekend. So I guess he arrives via ZRH - any idea on what plan he arrives?
I was lucky to see him arriving. When I was on the terrace at about 12:45 I was watching a rare guest, a 767-300 ER from Air China which was parked at the B-Dock, suddenly an A 310 from PIA came around the pier A and also parked very close to the terrace. The jet had a Pakistani and a Swiss flag at the cockpit window. A large group of spotters could watch Musharraf disembark the plane from about 20 meters distance. I was really wondering that they let him so close to the public although there were a lot of police, even two with sub-machine guns within the spotter crowd on the terrace. Musharraf and his people left short after with two Super Puma from Swiss Airforce.
BTW Condi Rice came in a B 737 (don't know the USAF name for it). She was parked at a stand near the hangars.
Thanks for the link! Great to have the Ukrainian IL62 back I heard from a credible source that the Polish are to arrive in a Tu154 and the Russians in several TU154s and probably an IL96.
Oh, and nice to see that the CA pilots are already getting some airport familiarization for the upcoming PEK-ZRH route
Saab2000 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2001, 1605 posts, RR: 12 Reply 24, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 20431 times:
Sandro,
Congrats on getting into 'my old airline'!
I remember the WEF from my days at ZRH and all the cool things we would see. Nice!
As for me I have been busy applying to airlines that fly to ZRH since I probably won't be flying based at ZRH anymore. We'll see.
Don't want to go back to the right seat of the Avro and the Airbus is not really an option it seems.
Anyway, EK, US, CO, DL, etc. are all airlines that fly there and they all have my CV....
Let's see what happens! Love to get back there sooner rather than later.
BTW, Sandro, have fun in Vero Beach, FL! Been there, done that!
smrtrthnu
25 ZRH: SWISS is really looking for pilots. I think there soon will be the possibility to upgrade from regional aircrafts (probably EMB 170/190) to airbus. T
26 Fiatstilojtd: Hi Sandro, As far as I know they plan to fly to VIE as well from June. So ZRH and VIE at the same time [Edited 2008-01-23 15:13:09]
27 Xiaotung: Shanghai Airlines commencing ZRH is not a rumor. They have applied for the route along with VIE and Hamburg but looks like it won't happen this year
28 PatZSC: no spotting of LX138 in HKG today as flight was cancelled (dep ZRH 23 Jan, arr HKG 24 Jan) - any information on the cause? Thanks!
29 Helvknight: In the last thread Sandro was mentioning that his class was the last class with split mainline/regional contracts so presumably the 2 pilot groups wi
30 SandroZRH: Thanks! Thanks a lot I certainly will. October-December Do not take that for granted, thats what our chief instructor believes who is an A343 Captain
31 Helvknight: Good point. By the way anyone know why the LX254 TLV flight has morphed into an A321 from an A343 today?
32 LXA340: There seems to be some iregularities with the A343 operations the last couple of days. JNB rescheduled from last night to this morning and the same w
33 ZRH: I think it must be in these days. According to the SWISS page they have 12 A 343 by January 21st: http://www.swiss.com/web/DE/about_sw...s/company/Pa
34 LXA340: As of February 8th LX256/7 Will be operated with A343's dep ZRH on FRI, SAT & SUN so by the latest then they will have the extra plane in service. By
35 Viasa: The plane is not yet in service with LX. An intersting detail is, that the owner of this plane is still the "Austrian Airlines AG". But the other for
36 LIPZ: Zurich (ZRH) - Naples (NAP) route operated by AirOne (AP) in codeshare with Swiss (LX) will be upgraded to A-320 from CR9 effective from 1st June. AP6
37 FelixZRH: Interesting. Do you have any information on the tag-on to Catania ( CTA )? Last year took this whole flight and the stop in NAP was tiring and only s
38 FlySwiss: I thought that LX will end the codeshare agreement with AP with the change of the summer time table end of March.
39 LXA340: Why did LX register it's 2nd additonal A343 HB-JML and only it's 3rd one HB-JMK?
40 AntonovA330: Hi all I"m sure someone here can help me. Having booked a LX weekend special in C-class, how does it work if I want to use the web check-in regarding
41 Helvknight: If you're talking about ZRH you just show your boarding pass and they scan it. No need for an invitation. At the other end It depends where you're go
42 AntonovA330: Thank you sir! I'll departing from ZRH indeed. The lounge is open at 6 in the morning I suppose, no? Which tickets / routes are restricted?
43 Knightsofmalta: It's just been confirmed, the last flight from Malabo returns to ZRH on March 30th. After that LH will operate the flight from FRA. DLA will then be j
44 ZRH: Here is the SWISS news realise about these African flights: http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/about_sw...0201.aspx?1201986608491&Country=CH
45 LX64A332: Does anyone have any information on the new C class products that will be coming out on the A333? Any pictures, links, artist drawings???? Also, when
46 ZRH: With Contact Air and Helvetic SWISS will now operate five F 100. Although the F 100 are nice aircrafts there is really the question if there is not a
47 LX64A332: I agree, I think LX should consider getting new A/C, since a lot of the european routes are flown under wet lease agrement, that don't deliver the LX
48 LXA340: All those wetleases are really a bit anoying. Well it looks like more A32S will join the fleet over the year so maybe by the introduction of the Wint
49 SRforever: Contact Air doesn't operate any F100 currently, so what aircraft are they talking about?[Edited 2008-02-03 09:35:01]
50 ZRH: This is indeed an interesting question. According to their home page they only have ATR 42 and 72: http://www.contactair.de/flotte.php[Edited 2008-02
51 Nwaramper: I was wondering about the passanger traffic in ZRH. Back in the day with Swissair and now with Swiss do they have more passingers know then Swissair h
52 ZRH: The most passengers ZRH ever had was in 2001, about 23 mi. Then it decreased to 17 mi now they have again about 21 mi, therefore not yet as many as i
53 AntonovA330: Please find my 1st Trip Report on the Trip Report section (sorry, don't know how to link it)
54 SandroZRH: here you go LX Weekend Trip - BRU (by AntonovA330 Feb 3 2008 in Trip Reports) Good TR
55 AntonovA330: Thank you for both link and comment!
56 FlySwiss: As per Jetstream Contactair is bought or leased two F100
57 Magic48: The record stands at 22.7 million which was achieved back in 2000. Last year's total is 20.7 million.
58 ZRH: Yes, you are right. I mixed up the year 2000 and 2001 (with 9/11). I said about 23 and 21 mi, but you are of course more precise with 22.7 and 20.7.
59 AntonovA330: Hi all As I heard today, LX has decided to equip the A333 with (...dramatic drumroll...) RR Trent engines. It was said they have in general a longer l
60 Helvknight: I was on one of the new 343s today from TLV (HB-JML) and the IFE seemed to have been revamped on these new birds. It was much faster and also the airs
61 LXA340: I haven't been on HB-JMJ or L yet but true I've heard that the Air Show is different compared to the rest of the A343 fleet. There are no plans to up
62 Ka: HB-JMM (msn 154, ex-AC) landed for the first time at ZRH this morning coming from SIN. -JMK is planned to go on a tech-flight tomorrow (02/07/2008) an
63 Helvknight: PM, you there? Good TR Thanks for sharing. (that joke's getting a bit old now I suppose)
64 LXA340: Would make sense as from Friday the night flight to TLV (LX256/7) will be operated with A343's on FRI, SAT & SUN and at some point in March it will g
65 AntonovA330: Erm, what exactly do you mean? Almost...
66 LXA340: Did HB-IQJ go tech last night in MIA as I saw the plane arrived at around 15:00 at ZRH today. Also the BOS flight was delayed to 19:00 did they only f
67 ZRH: This is really a surprise: SWISS takes over the airline Edelweiss from Kuoni. This means three A 320 and an A 332. Is this probably a first step to a
68 LXA340: Wasn't HB-JMK supposed to have it's first revenue flight today after completing it's test flight yesterday?
69 Ka: -JMK departed 2 minutes ago as LX254 on its first revenue service for LX. KA.
70 ZRH: And third (after returning from TLV) flight will already be tonight as LX 138 to Hong Kong.
71 LXLucien: Great news! But they have to change their interior. It's really cramped! But I found it odd that besides the Blick nobody picked up the story, you ca
72 LXA340: There was an article about it yesterday but it looks like it's gone now or both of us are blind
73 ZRH: It was in all newspaper in the economy sections. NZZ: http://www.nzz.ch/nachrichten/kultur...ellschaft_edelweiss__1.667684.html But also in the Tages
74 SandroZRH: Hey all We completed out first Flight training phase yesterday, it was awesome! Weather wasn't always on our side which meant that i fought with winds
75 ZRH: The SWISS CEO Christoph Franz has been appointed to the board of directors of Jet Blue: Jetblue Appoints Swiss Int'l Air CEO To BoD
76 Humberside: Ive just been looking on the Flybaboo wbsite and it shows their GVA-Lugano flights as being operated by Darwin in July. I thought the two airlines com
77 Viscount724: Darwin already operates all GVA-LUG flights and Flybaboo codeshares. Not sure when that arrangement started. I doubt traffic in that market is enough
78 HBDAN: BBO is looking for introducing Geneva - St. Petersburg service when they will get their first E190. All LUG-GVA flights are operated by Darwin since
79 LXA340: Will their E190's feature 2 classes? This route definetly has potential
80 Kaitak: Check this out folks ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5prz1Ae5QM If I were a dentist ... I'd be willing to bet this one loosened a few molars!
81 RJ100: Any information already about how fares will be on GVA-LED? Interesting to see how the route and the new LX route to LED will perform as the demand to
82 LXA340: The LX route from ZRH to LED is aimed also at business travelers and I would assume that it has good potential for decent loads all year arround. Als
83 RJ100: I was only surprised to see the low pax figures on LH and OS during winter in LED while they all use larger equipment in summer (up to A-300s). There
84 AntonovA330: I´ll be most probably using this route in summer. I also think the A319 is adequate fulfilling the needs. That´s where the money comes from no? BTW
85 RJ100: I think the money comes from all passengers, the lowest prices (from BSL) to MOW or LED are around 400 Euros. Not bad for the airline. Moscow is by fa
86 RJ100: Let me know if you go there, I have some useful tips for you. And no, don't take a taxi from the airport!
87 ZRH: This is a good routing, I like it. Last year I was on the DME-GVA-ZRH flight. The aircraft was quite full between DME and GVA. At GVA about 50% of th
88 LXA340: Will the 2nd additional GVA - DME flight which will start operations with summer timetable also start and end in ZRH, same with their new 3 weekly GV
89 AntonovA330: Thanks. I´m not gonna stay too long there as I´ve also heard St. Petersburg being quite pricey... And what´s wrong with he taxis??
90 RJ100: Yes it can be quite pricey, especially if you're staying downtown but it's worth visiting as it is one of the most beautiful cities around. The taxis
91 Dens: No the 2nd GVA-DME flight will not start and end in ZRH. This flight will leave GVA in the evening, night stop in Moscow and come back the next morni
92 RJ100: Swiss plans to give away its Swiss technic part to Lufthansa. Swiss technic, which currently employs 450 people in Basel and mainly cares about the Av
93 SandroZRH: I have some hot insider news aswell. Today was the monthly Phase meeting at SAT with representatives of SAT, Swiss and a representative of each pilot
94 LXA340: If SRT would be trained with RR engines wouldn't that be then not making a differnce prices wise etc? Also if LX would get PW engines are they inferi
95 AntonovA330: Thank you for this brief information! Good news for you me thinks! Does that mean that LX will, additonally to *9* A333, have some A332 on stock? Tha
96 LXA340: The 9 A333's will be delivered anyway however it looks like they will be going to keep some A332's and not as originally planed get rid of them. Prob
97 AviationMaster: Awsome news! How's the training coming along? I just signed up for the SAT info day on the 27th of February.
98 Knightsofmalta: I really don´t want to spoil everyone´s fun here but SWISS management has maintained all along that they will be keeping some of the A. 330-200s but
99 SandroZRH: FUnny you mention that now, but that was the first time i have heard of this. It all depends on available crews. Leasing them out would be the logica
100 LXA340: When you guys were informed about that were the people optimistic that they will be able to hire enough pilots till then? Wouldn't this be a good opo
101 SandroZRH: Resulting in even less pilots for the avros? They don't have enough as it is Nope. Exactly the same for both airbus and avro pilots, except for the t
102 RJ100: French carrier Aigle Azur will start a once weekly flight between Basel and Sétif in Algeria as per April. The airline continues to fly between Basel
103 LXA340: Hi everybody, I have just added my first trip report, enjoy Cheers LX254 ZRH-TLV In C With Pics (by LXA340 Feb 18 2008 in Trip Reports)
104 Nwaramper: I have a question about non revenue pax on Swiss if they list you in coach and they still have open seats in first or business class will they upgrade
105 Knightsofmalta: Hi Nwaramper Staff are never put in First Class on LX when traveling on an ID ticket. As for an upgrade from Economy to Business, if there are still s
106 Knightsofmalta: By the looks of it, AF has decided to follow suit on the LCY-ZRH and will also be introducing a nightstop flight from ZRH to LCY which will directly c
107 LXA340: Is the ZRH-LCY-ZRH route not slowly experiencing overcapacity?
108 SandroZRH: Probably yes, but interestingly, LX always seems to be the most expensive option on the route, should tell you something about AF and BA's loads. Goo
109 Knightsofmalta: You would think so but in actual fact LX has felt Easyjet's entrance on the LTN-ZRH route much stronger than BA and AF on the LCY route.
110 LXA340: Several times a year usually to visit family that lives down there. Did LX also feel that on the LHR route?
111 Infodesk: I forget whether it was summer 07 or winter 06/07 but AF have already done a nightstop in ZRH. The aircraft was always late and brought few passenger
112 Lsgg: Hi there ! Quite a long time ago since my last post... Surfing around Internet, I've found that article (in French) : http://swissair.ifrance.com/swis
113 Lsgg: Great news from Flybaboo : http://www.dpts.org/news.html
114 HBDAN: Jetstream announces in its February edition that SkyWork will introduce scheduled BRN-VIE service when they receive their Q400. Somebody with more inf
115 RJ100: I heard that is twice weekly during the Euro football championship. But maybe the plans changed until now. Cheers Thomas
116 ZRH: Haha, this silly name always reminds me of baboons. I only hope the pilots are not baboons.
117 Lsgg: Yes that is not quite close with a Swiss indentity !
118 RJ100: Maybe some of you might be interested in the special deals Swiss is offering right now ex BSL on selected routes and dates: Warsaw, Amsterdam, Barcelo
119 LXA340: How come both LX flights to TLV LX254/6 that are scheduled with A340 got downgraded to A321 today?
120 HBDAN: FR will be putting on sale flights for 0.01 swiss francs all included on next tuesday. Regards, HBDAN
121 SandroZRH: Thanks for the tip. Good deals indeed
122 Legacy135: As far as I know those flights will only last during the football championship in June and probably a number of "Städteflüge" thereafter. The fligh
123 Knightsofmalta: LX will be adding a seventh daily flight between GVA and LCY. Also the RJ100 operating between GVA and PRG will be replace with an A. 319 for the summ
124 Kaitak: Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but LX will actually be receiving the 1,000th A330/340 model - which will, of course, be a -343E. (Source:
125 ZRH: I am not sure if you are right. LX does not receive newly built 343, but from 2009 on 9 brand new 333. At the moment LX flies 12 343, some of them ar
126 Kaitak: Sorry, slight misunderstanding; my fault. The -343E I referred to is not an A340-300, but an A330-343E! All of the LX A330-300s will be -343Es, becaus
127 LXA340: It's JMH and I, how come they didn't get JMA-G also as E's werent they already available in 2003 or was it a cost issue? Is LX going to receive any m
128 ZRH: Ok. Yes it was already mentioned that the new 333 will be RR powered. Actually, as LX bought Edelweiss they will also have a 332 with RR engines.
129 Kaitak: Will the Edelweiss 330s be repainted in LX livery; much as I like the LX livery, I hope not, because the Edelweiss livery is very attractive indeed. A
130 SandroZRH: Not for the time being. Swiss announced that it will keep the Edelweiss brand, however i suspect that operations will gradually be merged into LX for
131 ZRH: Me too. I like the Edelweiss livery. Hehe, I know why. You would like to fly some day also an Edelweiss bird... [Edited 2008-02-23 13:57:21]
132 Infodesk: Fog at MXP has been causing problems today. SQ378 SIN-MXP-BCN had to divert to Zürich so their 777 is now waiting to take off again Greetings Infodes
133 ZRH: Always cool to see another 777 in Zurich. But anyway SQ soon comes twice a day.
134 AviationMaster: Good news for the air force; looks like the stupid "Kampfjetinitiative" has been overwhelmingly rejected! http://tagesschau.sf.tv/nachrichten/...htige
135 Knightsofmalta: That really was stupid. They should have had a referendum to get rid of the air force with the rest of the army instead.
136 LXA340: The 5th additional A340 of LX (HB-JMN?) arrived this morning from YUL. HB-JMM is currently already in preperation to enter service with LX at ZRH I th
137 ZRH: Great. This would be no 14? 12 are in service, and JMM in preparation is no 13? Is this correct?
138 ZRH: Finally. It seems that Zurich airport will rebuild Dock B with two levels for Schengen and non-Schengen passengers. The original plan is to shorten it
139 SandroZRH: Indeed. It was parked on a remote stand on the SRT ramp close to the road between the airport and Balsberg. A fine looking mint colored A340. About t
140 LXA340: That's correct I gues we will soon receive some detailed plans. Maybe we will even see constructon works to begin later this year. Wasn't there somet
141 ZRH: Yes, you are right. They had a press release saying that the Event Dock is only for renting till June (or July).
142 LXA340: I am wondering how the new Dock B will look, probably a bit similar to Dock E with a lot of glass and probably 8 stands for aircraft?
143 ZRH: I think maximum 8 narrow bodies. The existing has 7 or 8 (?) but for aircrafts of the size of a 747 (except one). Probably the new one has less becau
144 LXA340: oh that's right. But I gues they will aim it anyway just for narrowbodies and all widebodies will be handled just as before from Dock E and LX except
145 AntonovA330: Interestingly enough, that plane will be JMO
146 BrianDromey: Hi Guys, Ive not posted here before, but I found a new interest in all things swiss having flown LX, DUB-ZRH-ATH vv. in J over the new year period, a
147 LXA340: All the 6 additional A340's are from either OS (JMK,L) and (JMJ,M,N,O) are from AC. JMJ,K,L are already in service and the other ones will be put int
148 ZRH: I absolutely agree. The new Dock B will only be for narrowbodies. The widebodies all will be handled at the E-Gates (all non-Schengen). At the moment
149 LXA340: What happened to LX's latest addition to the fleet the A340 HB-JMK did it go tech already? It was scheduled to fly to JFK yesterday but flight got can
150 Glidepath73: Hi Guys! I really hope terrace Dock B will somehow stay! How about to create a new terrace on Dock A? That would be amazign as well, but seems very u
151 ZRH: A terrace on the A-Dock would be a dream. As Zurich is spotter friendly I guess that at least a terrace B will stay. An other solution would be the a
152 Lsgg: Would be nice indeed ! However the time is much more to the closure of all these nice airport terraces. For example there is no terrace anymore at GV
153 ZRH: I don't see this problem in ZRH. Not long ago a new terrace opened (E). And you have security checks before you can visit one of the terraces.
154 Glidepath73: Oh no! That would be really bad! Let's hope UNIQUE doesn't close any terraces! Dock E is sensational! I think I'll write an Email to UNIQUE and ask t
155 Knightsofmalta: As far as I know, construction will start immediately after the Euro 08.
156 LXA340: Sounds good, they will not rip the whole Dock B down and rebuild it it will just be completely renovated / modernized no?
157 Knightsofmalta: I´m not quite sure myself. The article in the 20Min says "kann umgebaut werden" so I´assuming they´ll keep the original structure and renovate/shor
158 FlySwiss: I heard a rumour that on the shorted Terminal B there will be restaurant, surounded by glass.
159 ZRH: I am not sure. As it will have two levels (Schengen/non-Schengen) which each can use the air-bridges to all gates and as it will be shorter I could i
160 ZRH: This has nothing to say. They newspapers are often not very accurate. I remember: many newspapers wrote about the new football stadium in Zurich: "th
161 LXA340: I anyway have a feeling that we will see a lot of glass in the new Terminal B simmilar to Dock E. Bu true inorder to get this 2 level system in it wo
162 SandroZRH: LX 1074 to FRA operated by Avro RJ100 HB-IXW left on time at 16:15 today, but has just returned to ZRH at 17:30, probably due to weather in FRA. It is
163 LXA340: A bit of a chaotic day on various european airports today. The article says that LX had to cancel up to 19 flights already today and various other air
164 SandroZRH: But always a good reason for a trip to Rwy28
165 LXA340: I was passing by on the highway yesterday afternoon when they were also landing on runway 28 and a LX A320 was just flying over my head. A bit diffic
166 SandroZRH: I was wondering about that myself, but it can't be the same aircraft as a day before, the A343 in AC livery was still parke dthere, and you can't rep
167 LXA340: JMJ,K & L are in service by now. Probably it was JMO then but I would assume that the cabin refit is already done or did they experience some trouble
168 ZRH: Here you got the plans in German: http://www.bazl.admin.ch/themen/infr...7P1oah162apo3X1cjYh2+hoJVn6w==.pdf They basically tear down the most outer p
169 ZRH: Now I see it clearly: the A -Gates will be used for Star Alliance Schengen short-haul (narrow-bodies but wide-bodies possible), the new B-Gates for no
170 LXA340: Thanks sounds like a interesting project. They used to have Gates there already before called C Gates which were in a big tent no?
171 ZRH: Yes, there was a kind of tent, called C-gates. Probably the new bus gate south will also be C-gate.
172 ZRH: This means totally 30 new gates: 10 air-bridge and 10 bus B-Gates (Schengen and non-Schengen); 10 new bus gates south (C?, Schengen).
173 LXA340: Is SR Technics doing maintanace for some of Lufthansa's A32S family? When driving from the airport last night I saw an LH A320 or A321 parked infront
174 Glidepath73: Sounds cool! Im glad they keep the terrace!
175 SandroZRH: I don't think so. It was probably just parked there overnight or was still affected by LH's load of flight cancellations following the storm on satur
176 SandroZRH: Alright, i asked about it, and you were right, the LH bus was in maintenance at SRT.
177 LXA340: Thanks for that. LH Technik probably experiences too much work or something. Didn't SR Technics do some maintanance on some LH A343's some time ago?
178 717fan: The Summer timetable is near: no new airline for ZRH??
179 LHBSL: That´s right: around four years ago, they made some overhoul on LH A343.
180 Lsgg: Flybaboo will fly GVA-LED-GVA 4 times weekly with all new EMB-190.
181 SandroZRH: Four years? I think that has been a lot more recent. There'll be another batch of LH A343s due for Dchecks at SRT next winter. Already discussed, rea
182 Lsgg: Indeed but this time this is official and not a rumour anymore. The route has been approved by the OFAC, as only a single Swiss airlines can operate
183 SandroZRH: From GVA or all of Switzerland? Must be the former, because LX is about to launch it's daily ZRH-LED flight.
184 Lsgg: I confirm : from GVA The law between Switzerland and Russia admits only one airline per country and per route.
185 LXA340: But this law doesn't make any sens then. There are LX and SV operating the ZRH - DME / SVO routes (I gues different airport doesn't count) and LX is
186 SandroZRH: I think he meant to say that one airline of each country may both serve one citypair. Yes, that's what he was trying to say
187 HBDAN: Hey everybody, Does anyone know about the BRN-LUG service? It should start per summer timetable, FOCA should grant the subsidiesed route to one of the
190 LXA340: Thanks for the correction. Indeed that's what I meant
191 SandroZRH: First day of SQ's new double daily service. http://www.flughafen-zuerich.ch/ZRH/...el3=317&t=Boeing%20B777-300&a3=317
192 LXA340: Is it already operated daily? 1h20mins turnaround a bit short for such a flight. Let's see how the LX loads to BKK/SIN will be affected by the new SQ
193 SandroZRH: I don't think the loads on ZRH-BKK will be affected much, because from what i heard, LX has a good number of people boarding in BKK/SIN to fly the sh
194 Sr176: You believe it is an overkill. I am not sure. Loads in the premium cabins were always so good that we had always problems finding seats in C at relati
195 LXA340: That's so true. However I don't know if TG is any better at least when it comes to codesharing out of BKK to other Asian destinations and Australia a
196 Swissairtaz: Not A343, SRT will do 6Y checks on LH A346 regards Charles
198 Lsgg: Look at the horror I've found around internet : http://www.findbestairline.com/Europe-Airlines/Swiss-Airlines.html What "findbestairline.com" is for a
199 LXA340: Not a source we should take to serious I would say?!?
200 ZRH: I consider this as a nonsense when you take in count what happened till now with LH and LX. They are happy with the two different well known quality
201 SandroZRH: Yeah, especially because they say it "would be a change for the better" Don't worry, Lufthansa has one of the smartest managements in the aviation wo
202 LXA340: And being the owner of an airline with a swiss cross is something to brag with especially in the current financial condition of LX so why bother chan
203 ZRH: Interesting article about LH and LX in the NZZ am Sonntag: Swiss ist deutlich profitabler als Lufthansa The say basically that Swiss is much more prof
204 BrianDromey: IMHO LX deserve to do very, very well, and all the right things are there to make it happen, IMHO. Good costbase, even with the A340 and AVROS Good, c
205 SandroZRH: Very interesting read! I just wish they'd finally release the numbers for the whole 2007, still only the first three quarters available. Thanks for t
206 ZRH: According to the article LH will release the numbers next week.
207 LXA340: This is the reward for the succesfull restructuring program that was chosen to get LX finaly on the road of financial success and this was achieved a
208 ZRH: I agree that it is important to get the same C-class in all long-haul aircrafts. But with the new 333 this will be possible, at least get rid off the
209 SandroZRH: How about first, start paying competitive salaries especially to the cockpit- and cabincrews? LX's success largely depends on them and it is essentia
210 ZRH: I absolutely agree. It is most important that Swiss has motivated and friendly cabin crews and specifically that they find enough pilots. My question
211 LXA340: I fully agree with you there too. Regarding the cabin crews it is just as essential to also offer them less stress by giving them more days off don't
212 SandroZRH: Yep, somewhere in the 20'000CHF/p.a. region. We hear a lot of good news, but I don't know wether something will be done, or wether it's just propagan
213 RJ100: Great news! Although I still ask myself about how the new flights from Switzerland to LED will do. Just returned on the Fokker-70 of Austrian yesterd
214 Knightsofmalta: Does AsiaX also have a kind of Business Class like Oasis?
215 RJ100: Yes, they have something called XL-seats and also offer full meals. Had a few problems to find their website though as asiax links you directly to a p
216 Knightsofmalta: Any idea about when either Oasis or AsiaX would start these flights? Would HKG-BSL be instead of the HKG-ZRH route Oasis had already mentioned?
217 AntonovA330: Agreed with both of you. Up to an hour flight a muffin or sandwich is ok, but on a 2+ hour flight (to DUB in my case), a muffin is really poor IMO. L
218 Lsgg: Excellent ! Really nice and exciting to see some intercontinental flights out to BSL !
219 LXA340: There should be enough demand for it if the flight is offered 2-3 times a week at least to start with with counting in all the potential passengers f
220 RJ100: The deal isn't safe yet, they only talk so far which happens often in the business. The Oasis deal however is on a good path and as mentioned above Oa
221 LXA340: They only got B744's in their fleet so far if I am not wrong are there plans for them to get smaller aircraft as well eg B772's or B763's then the ri
222 ZRH: Now it's out: medias are reporting that Swiss made a profit of CHF 571 mi (€ 360 mi, $ 555 mi) in 2007. Plus 147% in comparison to 2006. Die Swiss i
223 ZRH: Here are te detailed numbers: http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/about_sw...0312_q4_2007_business_report_e.pdf
224 LXA340: Those are really excellent results and the best evidence to prove all those pesimists who said that LX will be grounded and never be succesfull. In th
225 ZRH: For those who are interested the entire annual report of Unique Zurich Airport AG (at moment only available in German): http://www.unique.ch/dokumente
226 RJ100: Excellent results indeed, however I disagree on this sentence. A big part of the turnaround is thanks to Lufthansa. The early pessimists were correct
227 ZRH: I agree. Mr Franz said basically the same. With the good economy last year Swiss probably would have been able to be in the black but only marginal (
228 LXA340: You guys are correct about that of course. Neverthless although SWISS is now owned by LH it is still a farely independant airline that has it's own i
229 ZRH: Quoting LXA340 (Reply 228): Neverthless although SWISS is now owned by LH it is still a farely independant airline that has it's own identity. Also wh
230 LXA340: That's true and I would say there probably isn't more space for more than the key airline u mentioned. Well the Austrian Airlines Group had a quite b
231 SandroZRH: Interesting article about Basel in this month's Aero International. It seems that the passenger numbers in the fourth quarter have slowed down signif
232 717fan: So nothing new despite some new Swiss destinations and some freqency augmentations.... Quiet boring. I have hoped for Shanghai Airlines or something
233 RJ100: Yes, November, December, January and February showed negative numbers in the range of -5%. According to Air France the slowdown of the Paris routes ha
234 LXA340: Well yes but it's nothing new. For SWISS Shanghai, Rome, Florence, Sofia and St. Petersburg out of ZRH and from GVA Bucharest and some frequency incr
235 RJ100: I dont know if mentioned here already but Robin Hood Aviation starts direct flights Linz-Zürich in addition to Graz-Zürich with Saab340. So another
236 ZRH: Now the construction plans of Zurich Airport become more precise: -till October a new bus gate with 10 exits will open (C?) -rebuilding of Dock-B will
237 LXA340: Thanks, this sounds quite interesting. Maybe the restaurant will be again something simmilar to the "Cockpit" Restauran that used to be located befor
238 ManuCH: News just came out today that apparently Darwin Airline isn't interested in the route (it's not profitable, not even with public funding), and the "o
239 RJ100: Why is it so important to have a Lugano-Bern airlink? Obviously there is no market for such flights so why bother? The only passengers on this route a
240 LXA340: It really looks like they only want it for prestige reasons. Well maybe a route for Robin Hood aviation as mentioned earlier in this thread they oper
241 HBDAN: The route LUG-BRN is lobbied by the group ASPASI (Associazione Passeggeri Svizzera Italiana = Swiss Italian pax association). Now, the president of th
242 ZRH: Small correction: Mr. Lombardi is in the Federal parliament not in the State parliament of the Canton Ticino ("state" is always the Canton and does n
243 HBDAN: Still a long way for me to handle english at a perfect level HBDAN
244 ZRH: Quoting HBDAN (Reply 243): Still a long way for me to handle english at a perfect leve Yes I know, I have the same problems. I hope you weren't off
245 LXA340: There was an LX A320 operating a flight to TLV at 11:55 as flight number LX9366 departing from Gate A67. The flight returnes at 20:50 as flight LX5387
246 RJ100: After Zurich, the noise hysteria has now also reached Basel after a Maskargo 747 took off "lower" than usual. The largest local newspaper reports on f
247 LXA340: http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/about_sw...ss_releases/Pages/pr_20080319.aspx Here the official press release of SWISS regarding it's Summer Timetable New
248 AviationMaster: SWISS has a new TV-spot appropriately themed for the upcoming Euro 08. http://www.airlineforallfans.ch/campaign/
249 Helvknight: Couldn't find the story in the paper (Aargauer Zeitung) but I saw a news shot on the screens on the bus a couple of days ago. Apparently one of the gr
250 AviationMaster: Does EAP also receive noise complaints from the French and German side? Found it! http://www.az-online.ch/pages/index....rub=100211482&Artikel_ID=101
251 LXA340: Very sad how some people think....lol yeah
252 HBDAN: One week ago BBO released its development plans in a two pages press release: http://www.flybaboo.ch/press/2008/Flybaboo-13-mars-08.pdf (french) Quite
253 BrianDromey: NIMBIES are the same world over! While the LX AVROS are not the newest they are one of the quietest aircraft around. The 320 is easily as quiet at the
254 Ka: 7 came back already. HB-IJB, JD, JE, JH, JF (A320) and HB-IOD, OF (A321). KA.
255 LXA340: You are so right. If people buy houses / appartments in those areas and they are relatively cheper compared to other areas there must be a reason for
256 LHBSL: ASA suspends all its own flights, so we wouldn't see the "zebra" any more on swiss airports...
257 LXA340: I read somewhere that Runway 16/34 at ZRH is going to be renewed this year. Will the runway be closed down or will work take place only at night as wa
258 Helvknight: As 16/34 is the longest runway at 3700 m presumably it would be done at night. It tends to be the one used by most of the wide bodies.
259 RJ100: That's a big shame about ASA, however understandable. It must cost a fortune to have an airline with just one aircraft. The ASA plane is still in BSL
260 ZRH: No it won't be closed. Last year there was a press release by Unique which told how they will renew it. As I recall basically in the night, part per
261 ZRH: Here you go: http://www.unique.ch/ZRH/?ID_site=2&...52&t=Sanierung%20Piste%2016_34&u=1 (incl a little video ) [Edited 2008-03-25 11:27:37][Edited
262 ZRH: This little movie is impressing. I recommend to watch it, at least for those who understand German (I am not sure if there is an English version). The
263 LXA340: That's true it's really impressive. I was at the airport today and saw that HB-JMM is not standing anymore next to the Gate Gourmet building looks li
264 HBDAN: It's official now: FOCA will not grant the BRN-LUG route to any operator. Darwin failed to present a clear business plan, while the pilot group couldn
265 LXA340: Was this route profitable at the time?
266 ZRH: I don't see the sense of such a route. This is nonsense and there is no reason to spend tax money on it.
267 HBDAN: At that time yes because of LUG being a "mini-hub" of Crossair. With no connecting pax I don't see any chance of success. HBDAN
268 LXA340: Ok thanks yeah the market is just too small, also MXP is not so far away, that might als be a problem. BTW: Just read on another thread that LX will
269 RJ100: Keep also in mind that oil prices are now around 105$ a barrel, that is 5 times the amount Crossair needed to pay... If it continues like that it will
271 LXA340: AWAS Buys 6 Airbus A330s For Singapore Airlines. (by WINGS Mar 26 2008 in Civil Aviation)
272 Sailas: BTW can someone tell me why Swiss doesnt fly to Helsinki? I think swissair didnt either? Is this due to the limited number of PAX and Ay dominating th
273 SandroZRH: Ive been hoping for that route for years, but it seems that LX is happy with the KF codeshare for now. With the upcoming expansion it might be very w
274 Sailas: ZRH-ARN-HEL is a very logical route if AY flies this route 21 times a day??? Still when ii flew GVA-ZRH-HEL i really thought it was annoying stopping
275 Helvknight: Did they have fifth freedom rights from ARN to HEL and, if so, would LX still have them?
276 HT: I hope it is appropriate to post a link for the next ZRH-Meeting in here ?! Due to A.net's new policies, all threads for Meetings need to be in non-av
277 ZRH: Of course it is appropriate for your great meetings. I don't understand most of air.net policies. A lot of them are really narrow minded and hypocrit
278 Viscount724: Crossair (or possibly also Swiss after they replaced Crossair) opeated BSL-HEL nonstop using the EMB-145 It didn't last very long, perhaps a year or
279 ZRH: There is probably not enough high yield traffic between these cities.
280 FlySwiss: SR used to fly with A310 the ZRH-ARN-HEL route and as I rememred right on the leg ARN-HEL there were only a few pax on board. As well it was a night s
281 LXA340: Could somebody please provide me with the average seat load factor on the PrivatAir (LX) BBJ Service from ZRH-EWR-ZRH flights or even better maybe a t
282 ZRH: I unfortunately can't help. But why don't you ask SWISS directly? When you tell them that you are writing a thesis they probably help you willingly.
283 AntonovA330: As with the new timetable LX operate new flights, you name it: LED, FLO, BUK. Has anyone any ideas about the loads? On swiss.com they had just a note
284 RJ100: I'm flying BSL-ZRH-LED tomorrow morning and back on the 14th...i'll check the loads
285 Knightsofmalta: I think that should be LED, FLR and SOF.
286 AntonovA330: True! Shame on me! Have a save and nice trip!
287 Legacy135: If everything goes well, the brand new Dash-8 Q400 of Sky Work Airlines of Bern should arrive at it's homebase on Sunday, delivered from Bombardier. T
288 LXA340: Are the LX pilots / A319's certified to land in FLR incase they would need more capacity due to holidays etc on certain flights at some point?
289 ZRH: I apologize for my ignorance. Is FLR a difficult airport for which the aircrafts/pilots have to be specially certified like LCY or LUG?
290 ZRH: I see the r/w is quite short: http://www.aeroporto.firenze.it/EN/i...php?percorso=contents&jk=28&curr=0 But is there a difficult approach? They even
291 HT: There are some restrictions in place, but at present I cannot recall which exactly. Look at the aerial picture on Google Maps: While the runway is li
292 Legacy135: Actually FLR has a huge obstacle just at the very end of the runway in the form of a mountain. This is also the reason why on 23 the av landing dista
293 LXA340: I've got some info from a LX Cabin Crew member regarding a few things that are according to him / her reliable. Supposedly SWISS's next longhaul desti
294 HT: Thanks for the explanation. Nevertheless they chose to fly into FLR instead of PSA which is a 90-minute drive from Florence (Firenze). LH is serving
295 AntonovA330: Interesting news, thank you! From what I heard earlier in this forum SFO wasn't really money making for SR. Some time ago it could be read in local m
296 ZRH: As this thread got very long I start a new one, there you go: Swiss Aviation Thread 16
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