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New Startup (Redair) Seek To Fly CPT/DUR-STN  
User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 16
Posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 5063 times:

Flying to UK to cost less (Source: www.fin24.co.za)

Johannesburg - A new SA airline called Redair has been given the rights to operate five weekly round-trip flights from Cape Town or Durban to Stansted in the UK, the Independent Online reported on Monday.

Its owner, charter airline Civair chief executive Andy Cluver, said he hoped that the airline would start operating this year.The Air Licence Council was to apply for the four round-trip flights not used by SAA to be put back into a pool for redistribution.

"There's a lot still to do," Cluver said, referring to his trip to the UK next week to look for one or two aircraft.He was in the market for a Boeing 767-300ER, 777-200ER or 747-400.

The Redair service would not have first class - just economy and business classes and the latter would be similar to premium economy class on other airlines, but cheaper.The lowest-priced tickets would cost R1 999 one-way, excluding tax.

Passengers would be able to select and pay for extras, such as a choice from among 16 types of meals, films, and access to the business-class lounge."You pay for what you want, so there's no wastage." Extras could also be bought on board, but would come at a premium.

Keep in mind that the same Civair tried to start up a longhaul service between CPT-STN, sold thousands of tickets and in the end left the pax in the lurch. Let's hope they succeed this time around.

When you are doing stuff that nobody has done before, there is no manual – Kevin McCloud (Grand Designs)
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User currently offlineSignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 3094 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4950 times:

Interesting! I wonder what frequency would be from CPT and how many from DUR... My wife's family live in KZN and we're in Norwich, so a direct STN-DUR flight would be great! Even if it were only a few days per week.

The article states that currently, there are 4 flights "unused" - I take it that this is SA (gvt)'s side of the bilateral? What chance an open skies agreement with SA?

I just hope things don't go belly up, like the Globespan CPT (and JNB) flights.


Flights booked: NWI-AMS-JNB-DUR, JNB-AMS-NWI
User currently offlineZSOFN From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1450 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4945 times:

Sounds promising. I think it's about time we saw some non-stops from Durban into the UK again; KZN still has a large British colonial population, and of course Durban is a more populous city than Cape Town.

That said, startups like this have a history of disappearing as quickly as they appear.

User currently offlineBHXFAOTIPYYC From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 4930 times:

VS seem to be dropping LON CPT frequency to 3 times a week, then cutting it out all together. If I check for summer flights all it gives me is via JNB. Any idea now full those CE 767's are these days ?

Breakfast in BHX, lunch in FAO, dinner in TIP, baggage in YYC.
User currently offlinePlanesavvy From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2007, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 4893 times:

It sounds like a great idea. I am glad it is coming from Civair who have tried it before themselves, so they know what they are in for. Saying that, starting a new airline flying from SA to the UK is a bit of a minefield.

It would be nice if they took on Durban as that is the one place that still doesn't have direct flights and there would be a lot of traffic for them.

User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 61
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 4833 times:

Its all in the marketing. If they can get in with people like Kuoni and Trailfinders etc in this country then they'll get the traffic - question is whether they can get the yields. I would be talking like mad to some freight forwarders re block booking the cargo space. Wont be much with a 767 but they could do very, very well using a 747 to Durban if they fill its belly.

What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineJohruk From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 4716 times:

Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 3):

The VS service is seasonal, with flights operating until mid April I believe and it is 3x weekly during the winter period.

There are no operations in the summer to CPT on VS....which I would have thought there would have been a good case for, especially during the UK school holidays, when seats are hard to come by!


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