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Has Champion Air Given Up Already?  
User currently offlinePmk From United States of America, joined May 1999, 664 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2738 times:

I know that Champion has lost all of the MLT/Worry Free Vacations business and is in jeopardy of losing all the NBA contracts as well. My company is working on a group of charter flights for 2008 and we've sent RFPs to several charter companies, including Champion. All the companies responded within 24 hours, Champion has been e-mailed twice and has not responded at all.

So, has Champion already admitted defeat and given up?

PMK

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User currently offlineMKE22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1143 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2674 times:

They aren't really competing for service anyway though. They do charters, not scheduled service. But we will see...


If Your not pissed, your not trying
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2666 times:



Quoting Pmk (Thread starter):
Champion has been e-mailed twice and has not responded at all.

Have you tried calling them on the phone? If I had a dollar for everytime I'd emailed someone something that never ended showing up I'd be rich...  Wink


User currently offlinePmk From United States of America, joined May 1999, 664 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2629 times:



Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 2):
Have you tried calling them on the phone?

Yep, got voicemail.

Quoting MKE22 (Reply 1):
They do charters, not scheduled service.

I know, we are looking to charter.

I hope they haven't already given up on surviving.

PMK


User currently offlineAzjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3941 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2606 times:

NWA is going to force the death of Champion. It's too bad for the employees... who probably see the writing on the wall. I guess the bright side is that this allows the employee group to start looking for other work, so that when the final nail is hammered into the coffin, they have an income. THe last remaining days will be bleak for CHampion as they fulfill current contracts. Most employees will probably have already left for a better job.


AZJ


User currently offlineMKE22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1143 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2600 times:



Quoting Pmk (Reply 3):

I know, we are looking to charter.

I hope they haven't already given up on surviving.

I know, I just was addressing them in general. I don't think they have.



If Your not pissed, your not trying
User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4328 posts, RR: 35
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2577 times:

Pity, it is/was the biggest passenger operator of the 727 on this moment. Very few airlines operate more then a handful now, after Champion the biggest remaining pax operators are Hewa Bora and Aerosur, both with 6.


nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineSCCutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5521 posts, RR: 28
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2301 times:

Wow, it is unusual for a dead airline to be advertising newly-posted jobs. Do they know that they are a dying carrier, or do they need to read Airliners.net forums to realize it?


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User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4601 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2204 times:

They continue to plug along down here in OKC. I know their Vegas flights are well received as well as the seasonal CUN and PVR flights.

User currently offlinePitpirate From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2077 times:

It seems they have a deal with Worry Free Vacations flying charter to various sunny destinations out of DFW, LAS, MSP, OKC, STL, and TUL.

This should at least keep them busy through the spring.

Good Luck


User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6392 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1894 times:

I'm sure many NCAA teams and bands will be dissappointed if and when Champion closes shop...this seems to be a niche market for them  Sad

In last year's NCAA Men's Division I Basketball tournament, Champion had the contract from the NCAA to fly teams that lost home from their regional tournaments.



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User currently offlineBlueFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4007 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days ago) and read 1826 times:
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Quoting KELPkid (Reply 10):
I'm sure many NCAA teams and bands will be dissappointed if and when Champion closes shop...this seems to be a niche market for them

One of the reasons they'd be closing shop is the loss of the NCAA contract to another carrier due to Champion not meeting the newer NCAA standards (something about the age of the fleet, if I recall correctly), so if anything at all, the NCAA teams will notice a newer plane...

Quoting SCCutler (Reply 7):
Wow, it is unusual for a dead airline to be advertising newly-posted jobs.

No, it's not, for a number of reasons.
a) If no one told HR that the airline will close shop in 6 months and HR sees vacancies, HR will advertise them;
b) Maybe they're not closing shop just yet, it could be just another a.net rumor (surprise);
c) There's lots of good money to be made in the short term with a company that is shutting down for one reason or another if your job skills are necessary and in demand. The company may be forced to offer significant bonuses to retain these employees up until the last minute to keep them from walking away sooner rather than later. My employer does the same thing in other industries, providing "shut-down" laborers at vastly inflated rates (5 to 6 times the regular salary) to companies that badly need their expertise but lose their own workforce as they seek employment elsewhere.



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25442 posts, RR: 49
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1769 times:

For all practical purposes they have lost the NBA contract as well. Here is a snippet from recent NWA VP of Flight Ops update.

Northwest is in final discussions with the NBA and has an agreement in principle to re-establish a VIP charter program using seven specially configured aircraft. NBA-designated aircraft will be going through interior modifications starting in late summer for targeted completion by the start of the '08 NBA season.

(NWA plane to be used is the A319)



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2004 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1756 times:



Quoting Pmk (Thread starter):
My company is working on a group of charter flights for 2008 and we've sent RFPs to several charter companies,

And these are charters out of TOL right??  Wink

I must say, when I worked the NASCAR charters in TOL, the Champion crews were very nice and the executive planes were always easy to clean.


User currently offlineCodyKDiamond From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 537 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1636 times:

Wow....glad I got a chance to ride one from DFW to LAS in July. It would be horrible to see them go...

User currently offlinePmk From United States of America, joined May 1999, 664 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1560 times:



Quoting Flyinryan99 (Reply 13):
And these are charters out of TOL right?? Wink

I must say, when I worked the NASCAR charters in TOL, the Champion crews were very nice and the executive planes were always easy to clean.

I of course can't comment on that but Champion has responded to our RFP. I've been informed that the executive fleet will not operate after Q2 2008, and unfortunately that's what we need.

Ah well...

PMK


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