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Has A 777 Ever Crashed?  
User currently offlineTimbo From Germany, joined Jan 2012, 0 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5248 times:

Has a 777 ever crashed with passengers on it? If so, which airline was using the airplane and why did it crash?

-Tim

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User currently offlineCmsgop From United States of America, joined May 2000, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5096 times:

No! Not that I am aware of.......However an 777 engine exploded yesterday.

User currently offlineAirbus A380 From Singapore, joined Jan 2001, 522 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5073 times:

no 777 has ever crashed to this date, and let's hope not, EVER!!!!

User currently offlineBoeing in pdx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5038 times:

NO! the 777 has never killed a passenger.

User currently offlineAA777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2541 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5026 times:
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Nope. Thank goodness for that too!
-AA777


User currently offlineTimbo From Germany, joined Jan 2012, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4995 times:

Ok, thanks! What's this about a 777 engine exploding?!?

User currently offlineAirbus A380 From Singapore, joined Jan 2001, 522 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4975 times:

Here's an excerpt of what actually happened:


A BROKEN fan blade may have caused a jet engine explosion which left passengers fearing for their lives in a near-catastrophe at Melbourne Airport.

Barry Sargant, of the Australian Transport Safety Bureau, said today initial examinations indicated a fan blade may have failed and passed through into the engine causing mechanical damage.

Passengers have told of their terror after the engine of the giant Boeing 777-300 disintegrated on take-off.

The airport's main runway was strewn with debris after the drama last night.

Parts of the engine of the Emirates airliner, carrying 213 passengers, disintegrated as it accelerated down the runway and was a few seconds from leaving the ground.

The Emirates airliner, carrying a full load of fuel, was travelling at 50 knots (70kmh) when the pilot aborted the take-off after smoke started pouring from one of its two engines.

Passengers today told how they feared for their lives when smoke filled the cabin, and said they saw flames shoot out of the engine as it moved along the runway.

Welsh couple Tony and Margaret Hughes told the Herald Sun they heard a loud explosion.

"I thought to myself 'Oh my god, that's it'," Mr Hughes said.

"I was thinking 'Stop the plane, I want to get off'."

Mrs Hughes said she first thought a tyre had burst.

"We heard a bang, a very loud shudder," she said.

"We knew straight away that something was wrong. We were very frightened but we just didn't know how serious it was.

"The plane was just starting to accelerate. We didn't actually take off but it was getting ready to do that," she said.

Muriel Leadbeater, of Manchester in England, said she was shaken for several hours after the terrifying ordeal.

"It frightened us all to death," she said. "The plane was swerving from side to side and I just didn't know what was going on."

Her daughter, Cynthia Lees, said the drama brought home the risk of air travel.

"It was quite frightening. There aren't too many emergencies on planes, so you sort of think that nothing can happen," she said.

British passenger Joanne Hume told Channel Nine she panicked as the aircraft came to a halt.

"The flames were still coming out of the aircraft. It was an absolutely terrifying experience," Ms Hume said.

The Emirates airlines flight EK69 bound for Singapore pulled up about a third of the way down the north-south runway as its engine's rotors splintered and debris spewed over the ground.

Despite reports of sparks flying from the engine, the airline said there was no fire.

Airport fire crews rushed to the main north-south runway as the pilot reported the emergency.

The Civil Aviation Safety Authority confirmed the incident had closed the runway to all incoming flights, which had to be diverted on to the smaller east-west runway.

The Boeing 777-300, one of the largest passenger aircraft flying, sat on the Tarmac for about 15 minutes until it slowly taxied back to the main terminal.

Passengers were shaken but there were no reports of injury, according to Melbourne Airport management.

"It was starting its take-off, the pilot had throttled up, when he noticed the problem," said the airport's corporate affairs manager Geoffrey Conaghan.

Airport staff and fire crews worked for more than two hours to clear the north-south runway while other flights were diverted to the other strip.

An incoming Singapore Airlines flight from Singapore had to circle the airport for more than 30 minutes while the other runway was prepared.

Early this morning Emirates confirmed the flight crew had aborted the take-off due to the engine problem.

"The problem with the engine, a Rolls Royce Trent 800 series, is currently being investigated by Emirates and Rolls Royce officials," an airline statement said.

The airline said the Boeing's fire-warning system was not activated.

"There were, however, momentary sparks and some smoke from the engine which may have been interpreted as a fire by some passengers," the statement said.

Passengers were assisted back at the airport terminal by Emirates staff as the damaged plane was unloaded and inspected by airline engineers.

Mr Sargant said Emirates was now expected to assist ATSB with an investigation into the cause of the incident.

Officers will examine the flight data recorder and engine manufacturers Rolls Royce will inspect the engine.



User currently offlineTim From Australia, joined Jun 2000, 704 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4937 times:

The Airbus A330, Airbus A340 & the Boeing 777 all have immaculate safety records.

Tim
Perth, Australia
www.perthairport.com


User currently offlineTimbo From Germany, joined Jan 2012, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4918 times:

Interesting article Airbus A380. I'm glad no one got hurt.

User currently offlineN949WP From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2000, 1437 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4905 times:

An A330 did crash a few years ago, during a test flight at Airbus, killing all (7?) on board. The aircraft was originally slated for delivery to Thai International.

'949


User currently offlineBoeing in pdx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4882 times:

It was a 340 and there were 3 i think onbord and were all airbus personal

User currently offlineGregg From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 327 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4873 times:

The 777 (and the large airbuses) do have a great safety record. Lets hope it stays that way for a long time. The worst incident I heard of on the 777 was a pressurization problem during the testing/certification phase. I think they were testing the ram air turbine (not sure if that is the proper name, but the turbine used to power controls and emergency equipment in the event of a total power outage in flight.) Somehow during the test the plane depressureized, and injured some Boeing employees.

Gregg


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9106 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4868 times:

Nope. Never.

Anyway the B 777 is quite new still!

 Smile


User currently offlineGUNDU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4825 times:

No.I hope not.I really enjoyed my 777-300 flight SIN-SEL and back and hope the 777 will keep its immaculate safety records.The Airbus crash was an A330.All on board died(7 i think).

Gundu


User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10360 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4799 times:

B777 and A340 never had a deadly accident. The A340 being 3 years older than the 777 is having a really impressive safety record. I hope both will keep it that way.
But this is not the ideal world. For example: The Boeing 747-400 is a very safe aircraft, but 3 have been lost in circumstances that have nothing to do with the type of airplane (2 in storms, 1 due to pilot error). Something like that will also happen to a 777 one day. If not, its nothing but a wonder.


User currently offlineTim From Australia, joined Jun 2000, 704 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4795 times:

I dont know how many of you remember but late last year a MH772 (also powered with RR engines) took off from Perth enroute to KL when its left RR engine exploded. Returned to Perth and engine change occured. (A new 777 engine arrived the next day on a MAS 747 freighter.)

I get the feeling that RR777 engines dont like Australia!

Regards
Tim
Perth, Australia


User currently offline3green From Australia, joined Nov 2000, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4778 times:

Yes, it was an A330 that crashed back in `94, it was being flown by the chief Airbus pilot, Nick Warner, i think his name was, apparently, he was testing the aircraft`s stalling limits, or something like that, and, if my memory serves me correctly, i think he had throttled back on one engine, perhaps somebody else might know more about this. Anyway , the altitude was not high enough for the aircraft to recover, and obviously the consequences were fatal. I think he was also commanded an A340 flight back in `92, or `93, that flew nonstop from Paris to New Zealand, which at the time was the longest non-stop flight by a commercial airliner. Quite ironically, a Qantas 747 radioed him during the flight and asked what he was doing, and when they got their answer, the Aussie pilot told them they`d never do it, and, just as they recieved that comment, they in fact just did break the record, so, Warner quite proudly replied
" we just did"  Smile


User currently offlineOvelix From Greece, joined Aug 1999, 639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4777 times:

Airbus A330 has only one fatal crash.
June 30, 1994.
It was a A330-321. Test flight. Fatalities: 7
The aircraft crashed during a flight test in which the crew was simulating an engine failure on takeoff. Pilor error, misunderstanding of auto-flight systems.
(source: Airdisaster.com)
Airbus A340 never had a fatal accident.
Only at January 20, 1994 the F-GNIA aircraft was destroyed by fire while on the ground at Charles de Gualle Airport, Paris, France


User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11951 posts, RR: 48
Reply 18, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4756 times:

Hmmmm. Have a look at this:
http://www.airdisaster.com/movies/movies.html

Now, the plane here is an A320. It crashed at an airshow while showing off it's staaling techniques to journalists and reporters who were all onboard. As the pilot was to pull the nose up, the computer in the aircraft wouldn't allow him to do so. The plane therefore continued into the forest.

I don,t know if this is the incident you are talking about, but if it isn't then we are talking about to VERY simmilar episodes.

Thom@s



"If guns don't kill people, people kill people - does that mean toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast?"
User currently offlineOvelix From Greece, joined Aug 1999, 639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4748 times:

Thomas
The subject has been discussed many times here. The fact is that in the case of the A320 crash you mentioned, the pilot went too low with too little throttle. When he tried to gain altitude, he simply did not have the speed or the power immidiatelly available.
Let's don't start again the "Unsafe Airbus FBW System".
You say "As the pilot was to pull the nose up, the computer in the aircraft wouldn't allow him to do so". If the airplane allowed the nose-up then a stall would have occured. Lets stop this now.


User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11951 posts, RR: 48
Reply 20, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4724 times:

* I was not aware of the fact that this matter had been discussed earlier.

* I'm not trying to point out that airbus' safety on their planes are bad

* Yes the plane would have stalled had the pilot pulled the nose up, but according to the Discovery Channel's "Flight Deck", this accident happened because the computer understood the pilots actions as a landing.

* Simmilar faults was not found on other A320s so the safety of the aircraft was not questioned seriously after the crash.

* I posted my post to find out if the accident with an A330 was infact the A320 crash, not to start an arguement on Airbus' safety.

Thom@s



"If guns don't kill people, people kill people - does that mean toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast?"
User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4712 times:

The A320 and A330 incidents described earlier were completely seperate.

Regardless of whether there was something wrong with the A320 itself in the accident in Habsheim, (I don't want to get a heated arguement going over the issue), the main cause for the accident was the stupidity of Air France (and maybe Airbus) of ordering a new plane loaded with passengers and fuel to do a stupid fly-by. The captain was also stupid for not telling his boss, "I don't want to do it. The plane is built to load people, take off, travel to destination, and land. Fly-bys are an unnecessary added risk factor, for which the plane and its FBW is not designed."

In fact, they had to switch off parts of the FBW controls in order to perform the fly-by, effectively lobotomizing the system.

The 777 and A330/340 series have so far an excellent record. I have nothing against the 777, and the only beef I have with the A330/340 planes is the fact that the fusalage curvature is such that you have to be something of a contortionist to take a piss in the bathroom, even if you're only 5'9 like me.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Charles

Charles


User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11951 posts, RR: 48
Reply 22, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4698 times:

lol Cfalk.  Big thumbs up

Thom@s



"If guns don't kill people, people kill people - does that mean toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast?"
User currently offlineL-1011-500 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 368 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4643 times:

Recent 777 Incident was the Saudi Hijacking from a few months ago....no damage or loss of life thankfully!  Smile

L-1011-500


User currently offlineGearup From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 578 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4627 times:

Gregg,

The 777 in question suffered a failure in a pressurisation valve in the pack in the aircraft's belly. They lost all cabin pressure very quickly. There were a number of flight test engineers injured. Boeing had it's vendor re-design the part before the 777 went into revenue service.



I have no memory of this place.
25 ScottB : The A340 may be 3 years older than the 777, but there have been 316 777's delivered vs. 190 A340's. So I'd expect that the total number of flight hour
26 Hamlet69 : ScottB, Actually, although the incidents appear similar, they have entirely different causes. As already described, the recent Emirates failure occure
27 AC320 : I also believe that the B757 has never crashed. The only fatal 757 accident was when another plane crashed into one in Asia (a 737 I think), during an
28 FLY777UAL : AA 757 crashed into a mountainside in South America (Cali?). F L Y 7 7 7 U A L
29 Fanofjets : Actually, several 757s have crashed (though still a very low number when one considers that nearly 1000 have been delivered): American Airlines, near
30 Cfalk : AeroPeru 757 was caused by the mechanics forgetting to remove the covers from the static vents, and the pilots forgetting to do a proper walk-around,
31 Boeing in pdx : A 737NG has never crashed
32 LUFC : Must be worth mentioning that the first 747-400 crash was when SIA drove theirs into a building site.
33 JAL : No B777 has ever crashed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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