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User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1697 posts, RR: 11
Posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8236 times:

I was just thinking that with Southwest's $625 Million profit for 2007, will they add new cities or more routes?

Possible New Routes:
MDW-ONT
MDW-BOI
MDW-OKC
DAL-JAN
DAL-CRP

Possible New Cities:
XNA- MDW, DAL, HOU (for large headquartered companies)
MKE- MDW, BWI, STL (Isn't it an LCC market except for Midwest?)
LAW- DAL, maybe HOU (Goodyear's biggest plant in the world, Ft. Sill is growing rapidly due to BRAC. Isn't LAW comparable with MAF?)

Just a thought!


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User currently offlineMKE22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1148 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8213 times:



Quoting Super80DFW (Thread starter):
MKE- MDW, BWI, STL (Isn't it an LCC market except for Midwest?)

Personally, I'd LOVE to see WN come to MKE. If they do (which is unlikely right now), it won't be on these routes. FL and YX fly on BWI, and YX and AA fly STL. MDW for connections is possible, and maybe DAL and HOU? if WN tries to come into MKE, they are going to have to carefully plan their routes.

Quoting Super80DFW (Thread starter):
XNA- MDW, DAL, HOU (for large headquartered companies)

There have been rumors about WN expanding in the southeast in places like XNA, and I have also heard PNS. These 2 however, if they are added will be in 2009 or later is what I have heard. PNS has talked with WN for a number of years, and is still talking, but it's all talk right now.



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User currently offlineATLgaUSA From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8209 times:



Quoting Super80DFW (Thread starter):
XNA- MDW, DAL, HOU (for large headquartered companies)

I don't think Wal-Mart generates enough traffic to fill enough 737s to the above mentioned cities with enough frequency to justify Southwest opening the station. I believe that the key to making money off Wal-Mart is smaller aircraft flying to key business centers at higher fares, just like AA is doing from XNA.

Other routes I could see:

BHM-LAX (1x), BHM-FLL(2x), BHM-RDU (1x), BHM-MCI (1x)

LIT-MCO (1x), MCI-LIT-MSY (1x)

OMA-DEN (multiple x)

MSY-JAX (2 or 3x), MSY-AUS (?x), MSY-SAT (?x)

RDU-JAX (2x)

JAN-BNA (1 or 2x)


User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1697 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8187 times:

I think that WN needs to go into MKE, fly to all of those towns and run FL out of town! It should be a competition to see who would fly who. I think WN would win.


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User currently offlineTxAgKuwait From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1803 posts, RR: 42
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8174 times:

Okay, My turn.

Dallas - Jackson - with continuation to BWI or Florida. More 1-stop service to cities outside the Wright Perimeter.

Dallas - Little Rock - Nashville (see above)

Dallas - Midland/Odessa - Denver

Dallas - Tulsa - Denver

Denver - Omaha - Baltimore

Denver - Boise - Portland

Dallas - El Paso - Tucson (I know ExpressJet couldn't make it work, but WN can do things ExpressJet can't). Note: this is based on Southwest getting over being mad at El Paso.

I don't see Lawton (too close to Dallas and not enough traffic) or XNA (not that far from Tulsa, and not enough traffic) as viable possibilities. Same problem as GRK.


User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1697 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8143 times:



Quoting ATLgaUSA (Reply 2):
BHM-RDU (1x)

XJ can only get a 64% load. Don't expect that anytime soon.

Quoting ATLgaUSA (Reply 2):
MSY-JAX

XJ shows pretty good loads. 75% daily for an ERJ.

Quoting ATLgaUSA (Reply 2):

Can't fill an ERJ over 60% daily

Quoting ATLgaUSA (Reply 2):
MSY-SAT

Can't fill an ERJ over 64% daily

Quoting ATLgaUSA (Reply 2):
OMA-DEN

Already a high traffic route with F9 and UA taking up to 757 aircraft



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User currently offlineMKE22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1148 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8128 times:



Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 3):
I think that WN needs to go into MKE, fly to all of those towns and run FL out of town! It should be a competition to see who would fly who. I think WN would win.

OK lets get real now. They don't want to compete with both YX AND FL. They don't need to even if they wanted to. They have MDW.



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User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1697 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8120 times:



Quoting TxAgKuwait (Reply 4):
Dallas - Jackson - with continuation to BWI or Florida. More 1-stop service to cities outside the Wright Perimeter.

Needed very badly!

Quoting TxAgKuwait (Reply 4):
Dallas - Midland/Odessa - Denver

I think WN couldn't make great loads on the MAF-DEN leg. I will tell you that WN doesn't need anymore DAL-DEN one-stop service. They already have service through OKC, MCI, ABQ, AMA

Quoting TxAgKuwait (Reply 4):
Dallas - Tulsa - Denver

Same as above. Although I DEN-TUL could possibly work 1x

Quoting TxAgKuwait (Reply 4):
Denver - Omaha - Baltimore

DEN-BWI already exists. DEN-OMA is high traffic already and I'm sure would already be in service if it would be an asset.



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User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2442 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8071 times:

Wasn't LGA in the works with WN not to long ago?


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User currently offlineMOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8064 times:



Quoting ATLgaUSA (Reply 2):

BHM-LAX (1x), BHM-FLL(2x), BHM-RDU (1x), BHM-MCI (1x)

I hope to see all come to be! The absence of FLL/other South Florida service from BHM is an enigma to me!

I know I'm only dreaming, but I wish WN would come to MOB. I hope that they see that most MOB area passengers drive to GPT and PNS to fly FL. Granted, PNS has stronger numbers, but largely because a population center 10% larger with much more diversified industry is located within an hour to the west.

How far does an airport have to be away from an existing station to receive new service? Is MOB to close to MSY?


User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4433 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8056 times:
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There will only be a net gain of seven aircraft this year, so don't look for a whole lot. A lot of that is already used up in the Spring Denver expansion already announced. If anything, I would guess the rest of the aircraft will go for more DEN, SFO, and PHL expansion, with bits and pieces in between.

User currently offlineBNinMSY From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7982 times:

I understand they hve looked at

JAN-SHV-HOU-LAX
MSY-SHV-TUL-DEN
SHV-JAN-BWI
SHV-MSY-MCO


User currently offlinePITops From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1442 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7978 times:

Should I chime in with my PIT routes?

PIT- BWI at least 2x more daily to reroute connections around PHL
PIT- LAS at least 2x more daily
PIT- MCI 1 or 2 daily
PIT- STL 1 or 2 daily
PIT- BNA 1 or 2 daily
PIT- PVD 1 or 2 daily
PIT- MHT 1 or 2 daily

I know they are refraining on the transcons but PIT needs some west coast flights. Where could we go?



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User currently offlineMOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7966 times:



Quoting BNinMSY (Reply 11):
I understand they hve looked at

JAN-SHV-HOU-LAX
MSY-SHV-TUL-DEN
SHV-JAN-BWI
SHV-MSY-MCO

How recently? That's terrifically interesting! If it's been recently, that gives us similar stations a little hope!


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23302 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7958 times:



Quoting ATLgaUSA (Reply 2):
RDU-JAX (2x)

I think there's a fair amount of room for WN to expand at JAX. STL-JAX could work very well if WN starts it and gets the A-B contract from AA; UA is now all mainline on ORD-JAX, which might indicate that there's an opportunity for WN on MDW-JAX as well.

From STL, I'd also love to see PIT, BNA, and SAN. But for fuel prices, I'd say SAN had the best shot. With fuel prices what they are, who knows?



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12281 posts, RR: 35
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7923 times:
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Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 5):
XJ can only get a 64% load. Don't expect that anytime soon.



Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 5):
XJ shows pretty good loads. 75% daily for an ERJ.

XJ (Mesaba) doesn't fly BHM-RDU, nor do they fly ERJs. You're talking about XE (ExpressJet)



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9268 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7894 times:



Quoting PITops (Reply 12):
Should I chime in with my PIT routes?

PIT- BWI at least 2x more daily to reroute connections around PHL
PIT- LAS at least 2x more daily
PIT- MCI 1 or 2 daily
PIT- STL 1 or 2 daily
PIT- BNA 1 or 2 daily
PIT- PVD 1 or 2 daily
PIT- MHT 1 or 2 daily

You beat me to it mate. How about BDL service? Is there enough traffic going there?



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User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7836 times:

With the new incentive offerings from the airport, I for one will be extremely disappointed if I didn't see some pre-K routes from MSY return...

MSY-SAN
MSY-LAX
MSY-OAK
MSY-PHL
MSY-IND
MSY-JAX (market entry would mean, like BHM, XE would probably be on the way out...so this is my last choice)

Give us three out of those six and we'll be quite happy. These have all been proven routes in the past. None of these are pipe dreams. Time to step up to the plate once again, WN, and add some of these.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23302 posts, RR: 20
Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7821 times:



Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 17):
Time to step up to the plate once again, WN, and add some of these.

I'm not sure if they were flown pre-Katrina, but MSY-MCI and MSY-STL both seem to have some potential (though MSY-STL would require tangling with AA*).



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User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1978 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7797 times:

OKC-MDW is definitely a player, as nearly all our OKC-MDW are all 1-hopper, direct plane service through MCI or STL.

As far as CRP is concerned, I don't think they'll go anywhere other than HOU. And JAN was done purely out of politics.


User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4717 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7788 times:

I think PVD can support any of the following

PVD-PIT 2x
PVD-RDU 2x
PVD-JAX 1x
PVD-HOU 1x
PVD-STL 1x
PVD-DEN 1x
PVD-LAX 1x



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User currently offlineMKE22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1148 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7771 times:



Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 19):
As far as CRP is concerned, I don't think they'll go anywhere other than HOU.

Obviously. They would have tried something by now if they were getting something else.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33280 posts, RR: 71
Reply 22, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7773 times:



Quoting MKE22 (Reply 6):
Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 3):
I think that WN needs to go into MKE, fly to all of those towns and run FL out of town! It should be a competition to see who would fly who. I think WN would win.

OK lets get real now. They don't want to compete with both YX AND FL. They don't need to even if they wanted to. They have MDW.

Who says they would compete? Southwest in Milwaukee would easily send AirTran packing on competing routes.



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23302 posts, RR: 20
Reply 23, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7764 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 22):
Who says they would compete? Southwest in Milwaukee would easily send AirTran packing on competing routes.

 checkmark  A look at BWI is instructive. There's not a single route outside of Florida on which the two compete.



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User currently offlineMKE22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1148 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7738 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 22):
Who says they would compete? Southwest in Milwaukee would easily send AirTran packing on competing routes.

Just IMO. I agree that FL is a bit scared of competing with WN. They would be competing on the routes he mentioned besides MDW.

Quoting Super80DFW (Thread starter):
MKE- MDW, BWI, STL

BWI- FL and YX, but not that YX is that big on that route.

STL- AA and YX, once again not that big on that route. Neither is AA w/ their RJs, but STL is their hub none the less.

Personally, I would love to see it happen though.



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25 Post contains images KELPkid : A Gaping hole in WN's system is DEN-ELP. Back in the day, Frontier (the original) used to serve it with a mainline 732, and F9 even served it with a 7
26 Post contains images Iowaman : They already have many one stopers thru HOU, so don't hold your breath. The only one of those I see a decent chance of happening is BHM-FLL along wit
27 Joeljack : Southwest loves taking passengers from other airlines. At fares that currently average around 300 roundtrip for a short 432 mile flight, southwest wi
28 Dolphinflyer : I vote for ALB-FLL and ALB-PHX. I also think that DEN-BUF, DEN-BDL, DEN-PVD and DEN-MHT (all 1x/day) could prove successful.
29 Post contains images MKE22 : I'm all for competition. I have been hoping WN would come to MKE someday. My : MKE- HOU, DAL, MDW, DEN (to make things interesting)
30 Airbusaddict : Im just wishing that Southwest would come into some of the upper midwest cities (because we are all stuck with Delta, United, Allegiant, the Red Tail
31 Ssides : In terms of size, it might be when you combine Lawton with Wichita Falls. That being said, places like AMA, LBB, MAF and CRP are unique in WN's syste
32 TxAgKuwait : I think you have a better shot at generating a healthy amount of business traffic (enough to support 2x daily) ibetween Midland/Odessa & Denver - you
33 MAH4546 : Not based on the terrible loads that American Eagle and Expressjet get on the route. Expressjet pulls out in April; MQ will surely follow.
34 Lono : Anyone think WN should boost their SEA market.... say 6 flights SEA-ANC....??? I happen to think this would make 6 very full flights..... might be tim
35 Post contains images Iowaman : Both those will work, aircraft availability pending. I can tell you from internal info that MHT-PHX load-wise has been performing above expectations
36 PITops : I'm not sure. I see alot of PVD and MHT but not as many BDL. Not sure if it's enough to support a daily flight. I agree with you on this. We check in
37 Alias1024 : I'm on the lookout for routes opened on something other than the 737. I think there is a good chance WN will enter into a pro-rate deal with a regiona
38 BooDog : Southwest started off as a Texas airline, and is still very proud of it; they still see themselves as the "Hometown Airline." Sure, Southwest saturate
39 AWACSooner : I think that answers the question.
40 Steeler83 : I actually looked at pax to Hartford, which is about the same distance from BDL as downtown Pittsburgh is from PIT. Over 200 daily pax go there from
41 ERJ170 : Okay.. how about: RDU-PVD RDU-MHT RDU-PBI RDU-RSW RDU-BHM RDU-ISP would any of these see the time of day?
42 Post contains links LoneStarMike : DAL-OKC-MDW would be even better. Southwest has already reduced service from MAF. They cut the 1 daily roundtrip between MAF and ELP and in May one o
43 Iowaman : Maybe a couple DAL-OKC-MDW and a couple DAL-TUL-MDW would do the trick. That would give DAL 4 more 1-stops to MDW (albeit several already operate thr
44 Alias1024 : I don't see them leaving any of those markets either, but I think only having 737s does limit their options in smaller cities like those I listed. Th
45 Post contains images Atrude777 : First, did we just NOT have a thread about this anyhow? 5 Daily Flights is not very big? Compared to 3 daily on YX Connect. I would think 5 daily is f
46 SkyTeamTriStar : Simple question regarding WN: Does all their 737s come directly from Boeing? (Any leased and/or bought from other airlines at anytime in their history
47 Cubsrule : It's unscientific, but I drive to BNA a lot, and I always see a ton of Missouri plates down in Tennessee. I think WN could make it work. A-B doesn't
48 PVD757 : and: PVD-RSW PVD-PBI PVD-SAN I'd argue that a PVD-ORF-JAX "Navy shuttle" might do well The PVD-STL flight would be huge as it would hit a good local
49 Georgiabill : Well I have hopes we may see WN consider the following routes from MHT. I think a daily MHT-DEN, MHT-AUS-DAL and 1 or 2 MHT-PIT as well as a sat & sun
50 Ssides : LoneStarMike beat me to it, but they have, in fact, reduced service to these markets on occasion. I don't think they'll ever leave, but reductions ar
51 Post contains images MKE22 : Dang your right! Then SAN instead.
52 Lexy : As do I! I wonder why this service hasn't already started actually?
53 PI731 : What about Southwest in Harrisburg, PA! BWI X4 (For all the people that drive down to BWI ) MDW X4 (UAL pretty much is the only player to Chicago sinc
54 Cubsrule : They're worried about AA, I guess. They do fly SDF-STL, which AA doesn't fly but don't fly STL-IND, which AA does.
55 Atrude777 : I do know we stil charge lower fares then AA does non stop STL-BNA, with us via MDW. When I checked folks in STL going to BNA by way of MDW, what we
56 Cubsrule : Advance purchase fares on the route aren't bad (typically $99 o/w). The $700 Y fare is what people try to avoid.
57 Steeler83 : That, and I don't think MDT fits WN's model. That's a shame, I'd like to see them run scheduled service out of MDT myself, but I don't think MDT WN s
58 Skoker : Anybody think that BUF-PHL would work? There's certainly enough traffic to support it. To the earlier suggestion of BUF-DEN... hmmm. That may work, al
59 GSPSPOT : I keep hearing that our airport (GSP) is talking with WN. I mean, WN has been at JAN for 10 years or more now - why there, and not here, for pity's sa
60 SANFan : Speaking of a "Navy Shuttle", how about PVD-ORF-SAN?! ORF-SAN has been discussed on A.net many times (and not just by me!) and is now the largest mar
61 Cubsrule : How seasonal is it? I feel like you and I discussed this in another thread, but I don't remember what you said...
62 JonBNASTL : Hi everybody, I'm a long time lurker that's finally registered since I feel compelled to chime in on BNA-STL, since I fly that often... hence the user
63 Cubsrule : For that kind of money, it seems like a lot of passengers would be better served to rent a car (which, I realize, you may not be able to do due to yo
64 KstateinALB : Those would get my vote for the next route an airline will serve through ALB. Both would be very popular here, especially FLL, which right now sees o
65 SANFan : Hey Cubbie, yes, we have talked about this route a few times. Overall, SAN-STL is a very solid, consistent, year-round performer. The DOT reported da
66 COERJ145 : If they ever started BOS: BOS-MDW BOS-STL BOS-BWI BOS-PHX(since B6 left fares went up)
67 Lexy : Well starting soon you can get there with a easy connection at BNA!
68 FlyingClrs727 : There isn't enough traffic between CRP and DAL to justify it. Except for some weekend flights, all WN flights to and from CRP are routed DAL-HOU-CRP
69 Lexy : You would see BNA for sure be one of the launch cities from BOS. Take a look at the loads to MHT from BNA and that is obvious. I have seen some talk
70 Steeler83 : I say from both PHL and PIT. I think PVD, MHT, and BDL (if marketed appropriately) might work, but PHL could definitely use more destinations as well
71 BOStonsox : They already fly PHL-PVD/MHT. I don't know if they fly PHL-BDL. PIT might work but seeing how B6 has done on its BOS-PIT route it won't be easy. A lo
72 MSYguy : I worry that these long-haul routes simply aren't very economic with the high price of fuel. Except for that issue, I think MSY-SFO or MSY-OAK is a n
73 Lono : Huh??? I did not see my questioned answered...
74 Wedgetail737 : I think there should be: OAK-DAL OAK-STL OAK-SAT SEA-DAL SEA-LA Basin
75 SLCUT2777 : I think WN will look at increasing service: SLC-SEA SLC-SAN (going daily from a current Saturday only flight) SLC-SNA
76 Cubsrule : Interesting... I would have expected it to be somewhat more seasonal. I do agree with you that WN could do well, though I think AA could successfully
77 MDW22L31C : How about SNA-OAK since Alaska is droping the route. ONT-MDW since ATA drop just the route on Jan 7th. SNA-SFO ONT-DEN SNA-RNO
78 JonBNASTL : Yea, I imagine lots of people are driving the 4-5 hours between the cities; the question is, if WN starts STL-BNA, would the last-minute fares go dow
79 MSYtristar : Not right now. It's supposed to return in March.
80 Iowaman : Not possible due to the Wright Amendment. There are several one-stop options available IIRC though already. I would have to agree with those, especia
81 Post contains images Steeler83 : I think that was due to the large number of US loyals flying that route, along with the poor fare structure of B6 (bad loads and yields). I don't thi
82 Atrude777 : Meaning? Hedges are in place all the way until 2012. How do you mean almost spent? Alex
83 SLCUT2777 : All three of these are substantially high O&D routes, even though the slot restrictions at SNA have perhaps been the biggest factor in why not up to
84 Steeler83 : I thought there were sources that stated their hedges would be up by 2009, but I guess whatever source that was was severely inaccurate, which I gues
85 BooDog : Um... Southwest already serves this route. About 8 to 10x a day.
86 Wedgetail737 : Isn't the Wright Amendment being phased out over a few years?
87 Atrude777 : Not until 2014. Otherwise WN would already be flying most of these n/s to DAL already! When purchased it was due to end in 2009, then WN extended it
88 Post contains images Steeler83 : Oh ok, I either forgot or was unaware that they did that Then in that regard, I guess this means they have to continuously adjust their fare structur
89 MAH4546 : As every year goes on, less and less fuel is hedged, and fuel is hedged at a higher price. In 2012, for example, only 15% of Southwest's fuel will be
90 SLCUT2777 : I have to agree with you that these prices for oil are not sustainable, and with recession hanging over North America much the way it was with Asia 1
91 Wedgetail737 : When will WN be able to sell 1-stop service to DAL? Same timeframe?
92 Atrude777 : They have been able to do so since October 17th, 2006. You can fly on and book WN OAK-DAL and other routes you mentioned BUT you will have to stop in
93 Steeler83 : You know what, I actually do believe that the price of oil should begin to drop because of the fact that it's at an unsustainable level right now, re
94 LoneStarMike : OK, dumb question because I don't know much about hedging or how it works, but if Southwest is 15% hedged for 2012 at $63 and the price drops to $40,
95 Post contains links LoneStarMike : Okay - I found the answer to my question about hedging ( and a whole lot of other interesting stuff) from an extensive interview with Gary Kelly in th
96 Wedgetail737 : I guess one other city-pair I would like to see out of OAK, besides OAK-STL, is OAK-ELP.
97 Lexy : Yes sir they do.
98 SANFan : I see you are out of SEA but if you are "into" OAK Wedgetail, do you have any thoughts on the loss of flights from OAK lately? According to my record
99 Smed63 : I've wondered about further expansion to PDX. What about PDX-BNA or PDX-STL? I know that SEA-BNA has been around for awhile now and it's one of two fl
100 Iowaman : A lot of the OAK reductions is at the expense of SFO expansion. I'd give BNA in a small shot, and STL next to nil. I think your best best is DEN.
101 Wedgetail737 : Even though I live in SEA area, I was raised near OAK. During the 1980's, I used to be "airport bum" as a kid...hangin' out there for hours. So, I've
102 Cubsrule : Not PDX-STL... it might work seasonally, but neither of the likely suspects (AA and WN) like seasonal flights very much. It's getting dropped, though
103 MAH4546 : Actually, they don't. It was discontinued. Coming back in March, though.
104 Lexy : Not to my knowledge. It's just a CRJ200 on Comair so I don't know. I may be wrong though, but I have heard nothing about it getting dropped.
105 Lexy : Eh, thanks. Sorry about that previous post. I suppose reading the ENTIRE thread would work out much better next time. LOL!!!
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