MOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 5 Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2418 times:
Very cool! Now all they need is to come to MOB so that I can use it!
Laxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22023 posts, RR: 51 Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2400 times:
Wifiinthesky From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 49 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2375 times:
Wifiinthesky From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 49 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2353 times:
This is a new announcement, they hadn't told the public which service provider they would be using prior to this news release.
Either way, interesting that VX, B6, AS, and WN are all testing or planning service, yet the only big 6 network carrier doing anything is AA, although we think CO could be next.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 80 Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2314 times:
This is interesting. Ever since B6 pioneered live TV and AirTran put XM in their planes, people have been wondering what WN would do to compete. Full service WiFi definately will get people's attention.
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AV8ORWALK From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 174 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2284 times:
This makes sense that it would coincide with the gate remodeling. Now you can have your laptop completely charged before boarding your flight - utilizing the power points in the redesign. I can get 3 hours out of 1 battery. I also have a back up battery. That's 6 hours. Just as much time as the longest WN flight.
They are really fighting for that expensive business traveller!
Hope it works.
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Wifiinthesky From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 49 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2046 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 5): WiFi definately will get people's attention.
..and could also get more biz travelers to fly WN to MDW instead of UA to ORD
RFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 6140 posts, RR: 25 Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1937 times:
Quoting AV8ORWALK (Reply 6): They are really fighting for that expensive business traveller!
At what cost?
So far I've seen only one report - and that was you will have to pay $15 to $20 per flight to use the Internet connection.
IMHO - in the long run, internet access is going to end up like the phones in the back of seats on planes - something only a few people use due to the high costs of airtime/ service.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 80 Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1922 times:
Quoting AV8ORWALK (Reply 6): This makes sense that it would coincide with the gate remodeling. Now you can have your laptop completely charged before boarding your flight - utilizing the power points in the redesign
I wonder if this will lead to sockets (not emPower) being added to the seats. UA has similar ones on their p.s. aircraft.
Quoting Wifiinthesky (Reply 7):
..and could also get more biz travelers to fly WN to MDW instead of UA to ORD
WN's business traffic is more impressed by the ultra-flexible, ultra-reasonable fares they offer.
So far I've seen only one report - and that was you will have to pay $15 to $20 per flight to use the Internet connection.
IMHO - in the long run, internet access is going to end up like the phones in the back of seats on planes - something only a few people use due to the high costs of airtime/ service.
Think about this logically. There is a big difference between the old Airfones charging $5.99 a minute and getting a whole flight worth of WiFi for $15. As it is, to buy a tmobile day pass you have to pay $10 and that is on the ground where you have other options.
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Wifiinthesky From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 49 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1878 times:
Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 8): So far I've seen only one report - and that was you will have to pay $15 to $20 per flight to use the Internet connection.
Aircell is $10-$12, and providers across the board are looking at multiple pricing models, including the use of FF miles.
Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 8): in the long run, internet access is going to end up like the phones in the back of seats on planes
I think cell phones for voice on planes could be like the Airfones in the back of seats because of Inmarsat's rates. But text messaging is another story, over 20,000 Qantas pax have sent texts from their GSM phones in that airline's trial. Also, there's established pricing for text messaging, it's the same as international roaming, and that price level has been successful in the cruise ship industry.
Smed63 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 26 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1767 times:
Hmmm....$15-20 to use or $10-12. Why not make this a perk of Business Select? The existing perks of Business Select aren't costing Southwest much if anything (except for the free drink, which I imagine not everyone would use), and this would be a great way to drive more business to the more expensive fare. For other passengers, allow them to buy it on a per-flight basis.
Wifiinthesky From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 49 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1701 times:
Quoting Smed63 (Reply 11): Why not make this a perk of Business Select?
Good point, a colleague just paid the extra $60 over standard business just to get an A boarding pass.
Brons2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2969 posts, RR: 5 Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1678 times:
It looks like their setup potentially can be leveraged to include IPTV as well. A lower cost and lower weight way for WN to offer IFE? Row 44 claims it weighs less than 150 lbs.
The satelite backend is the Hughes/DirecTV system. I wonder how they are getting 30mbps out of that system? The latency is terrible for DirecPC/Directway users. Maybe the amplified signal from the radome makes a difference.
Anyways, it will be interesting to see how well this works.
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BHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5 Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1610 times:
Quoting Brons2 (Reply 13): The latency is terrible for DirecPC/Directway users. Maybe the amplified signal from the radome makes a difference.
No, that can't help latency as it won't make the radio waves move any faster. It's pretty simple, the satellites are geosync, ~ 22000 miles up. Min distance travelled for a RT is 22000*4 but normally more as it's unlikely that the endpoint will be anywhere near the ground station. In a perfect world, thats 88000/186000x1000=475 ms which is pretty bad in anybody's book. More realistically when you add relay time at the satellite, ground station, etc. you'll be seeing 600 ms +.
SirOmega From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 735 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1454 times:
$15 is a lot to pay considering that most WN flights are shorter, about one and a half hours. I hope WN considers variable rate pricing for different stage lengths.
Of course if they didn't that would be great for my LAS BUF segment that is 4+ hours.
PITops From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1442 posts, RR: 4 Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1387 times:
Maybe they should set the rates based on length of flights.
DYflyer From Norway, joined May 2006, 674 posts, RR: 16 Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1377 times:
In Europe DY will bring Wifi to the Low Cost Skies (and unfortunately also mobile service) later this year. They haven't given out any prices or more technical information yet. The services will be available on all their 738s (the first one being delivered tonight).
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