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NW B747F Incident At KIX  
User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2988 times:

Sorry, the link is only in Japanese.

http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20080124-00000911-san-soci

Basically, the article states that at 0:20 am on 1/24, a NW B747 freighter flying CAN-KIX-ANC suffered an accident and burst 8 tires. Therefore the aircraft canceled its departure.
According to Japan's ministry of transportation and NW, The aircraft arrived for a refueling stop from CAN at 10:30 pm on the 24th. It then left its gate (spot) at 11:50 pm and tried to take-off but its engines were functioning properly so it cancelled its departure. But on the plane had to make an abrupt stop and bursted 8 tires when stopping.

KIX has never had a major accident but there are many minor ones involving tires or tail strikes. I think AC has a similar incident due to an ATC error or some mis-communication amongst the operators and suffered several blows to its tires, a couple of years ago.


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User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2958 times:



Quoting Ktachiya (Thread starter):
Basically, the article states that at 0:20 am on 1/24, a NW B747 freighter flying CAN-KIX-ANC suffered an accident and burst 8 tires. Therefore the aircraft canceled its departure.

Not a big deal. Sounds like a RTO, perhaps close to V1, brake energy limits very high (long taxi) and the fuse plugs on the tires did just what they are supposed ot do, melt!


User currently offlineLu From China, joined Aug 1999, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2917 times:



Quoting Ktachiya (Thread starter):
The aircraft arrived for a refueling stop from CAN at 10:30 pm on the 24th. It then left its gate (spot) at 11:50 pm and tried to take-off but its engines were functioning properly so it cancelled its departure. But on the plane had to make an abrupt stop and bursted 8 tires when stopping.

I am wondering what time it is? I know Beijing time is now 08:40 pm on the 24th, but the accident was happened on 10:30pm on the 24th. What did you know it would happen?

Lu


User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2873 times:



Quoting Lu (Reply 2):
What did you know it would happen?

Wait sorry, did you mean to ask me, Why did I know it would happen?

If I didn't get it straight, I meant to say 20 minutes into the day. So 12:20 am on the 24th which was about 21 hours ago.



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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7410 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2483 times:
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Quoting Ktachiya (Thread starter):
KIX has never had a major accident but there are many minor ones involving tires or tail strikes. I think AC has a similar incident due to an ATC error or some mis-communication amongst the operators and suffered several blows to its tires, a couple of years ago.

Yeah an a.netter on youtube gave us a play by play of it happening. His narration made it sound like the Hindenburg disaster



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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2309 times:



Quoting Ktachiya (Thread starter):
tried to take-off but its engines were functioning properly so it cancelled its departure

Only NW would canceled a departure if the engines with functioning properly.  boggled  So I'm guessing that you meant the engines were not functioning properly, and that can become a problem.  bomb 


User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 1907 times:



Quoting AirCop (Reply 5):
So I'm guessing that you meant the engines were not functioning properly

Yes this is the part that is confusing when I was translating it. Did the pilots try to take-off with the engines functioning peroperly, or did they stop because the engines weren't, and blew a few tires then?

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 4):
Yeah an a.netter on youtube gave us a play by play of it happening

Oh ok so it was an a.netter. Well he seemed to know exactly when V1, rotation was and so. And he stated that the same captain was the commander of AC040 a couple of hours later, don't know how that happened.



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 17 hours ago) and read 1744 times:

Looks like an RTO,thus leading to the fused tires.
regds
MEL



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