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16 Yr Old Attempted Hi-jack?  
User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3979 posts, RR: 7
Posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4415 times:
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.............boy tells FBI of his plans to commandeer the aircraft...............although reports are not confirmed of a possible intent to crash the plane into a Hannah Montana concert in LFT.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,325426,00.html


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User currently offlineAirbus767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 4339 times:

Quoting article:
Bolds dismissed earlier broadcast reports that the teen was planning to crash the plane into a "Hannah Montana" concert in Lafayette, Louisiana.

Yeeeaahhh I really don't think anyone would hijack a plane and fly it into a Hannah Montana concert, as annoying as she may be... I don't think he could've done much, but it said they found a "mock cockpit" in his room... how exactly do you get a mock cockpit in you room? And is this the next step of suicidal teens, hijacking aircraft??? This is a weird story...



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User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6895 posts, RR: 76
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 4295 times:



Quoting Airbus767 (Reply 1):
And is this the next step of suicidal teens, hijacking aircraft???

No... but maybe 5 year olds asking for flight deck visits and when inside, he pulls his plastic cap gun and sez... "shhtick'em up captain shhir..."
Sounds too cartoony....



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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 4278 times:



Quoting CALMSP (Thread starter):

The title is misleading. The boy NEVER made an attempt to hijack the aircraft.

He had intentions. Big difference.

Alex



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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3979 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4237 times:
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Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 3):
The title is misleading. The boy NEVER made an attempt to hijack the aircraft.

not making a statement...............but posting a question.



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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4227 times:

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 4):
not making a statement...............but posting a question.

Well...I don't wanna sound mean, but simply reading the article would have clarified he didn't make an attempt, nor ever did attempt to hijack the flight. So I don't know why it would be a question.

A better title would be how the media had it,"16 year old "INTENDS" to hijack flight....(and so forth).

Quoting Airbus767 (Reply 1):
how exactly do you get a mock cockpit in you room?

Simple! Become a geek, never get a life, and set up moniters, pedals, joysticks, and set it up. People have done it!!

What I do wonder, reading this, is how did it come to the attention? If he was calm on board, never caused a disruption then how did he get caught?

Alex

[Edited 2008-01-25 02:10:40]


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User currently offlineAZO From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 767 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4050 times:

What I was curious about was how they caught him. Since it seems he was allowed to fly LAX-BNA, what happened after this flight that tipped off the authorities he was up to something for his next segment? They said the first flight was uneventful.


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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3769 times:

I'm sure we'll soon learn that we now have one less A.net member.

I didn't even learn about this until I read it here... and I live in Nashville and work at BNA



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User currently offlineBok269 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 2104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3700 times:



Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 5):
Simple! Become a geek, never get a life, and set up moniters, pedals, joysticks, and set it up. People have done it!!

What I do wonder, reading this, is how did it come to the attention? If he was calm on board, never caused a disruption then how did he get caught?

Alex

Even simpler-Cut out some cardboard and paste/draw diagrams of the switches and avionics on it. IIRC Ziad Jarrah (UA93 Hijack pilot) did something similar in preparation for 9/11.



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User currently offlineJetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2800 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3558 times:
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That kid needs some help. I saw on the local news that if people didn't listen he was going open one of the cabin doors and try to get peoples attention. Well I guess him flying out and landing in the engine would do it.
Blue



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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3511 times:

Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 9):

Well....... since you can't open a passenger or service door in flight nothing would have happened.

[Edited 2008-01-25 12:06:29]


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User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3107 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3467 times:



Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 5):
Quoting CALMSP (Reply 4):
not making a statement...............but posting a question.

Well...I don't wanna sound mean, but simply reading the article would have clarified he didn't make an attempt, nor ever did attempt to hijack the flight. So I don't know why it would be a question.

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Exactly the same thought entere my mind when I read the heading, especially because I had read the news article on CNN earlier in the day.....


User currently offlineJetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2800 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3467 times:
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Quoting EMBQA (Reply 10):
Well....... since you can't open a passenger or service door in flight nothing would have happened.

I know but I am just stating what I heard.
Blue



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User currently offlineAvt007 From Canada, joined Jul 2000, 2132 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3438 times:

Sounds like a real non-event to me. The bigger story is this poor kid being so messed up mentally. As for having a "mock Cockpit", I hope they don't decide to outlaw that! How many anetters have MS Flight Simulator?

User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3137 times:
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Quoting CALMSP (Thread starter):
possible intent to crash the plane into a Hannah Montana concert in LFT.

Doesn't sound crazy to me



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User currently offlineMason From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 748 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3118 times:

The news here in Portland said he got the wrong day!

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3067 times:



Quoting Mason (Reply 15):
The news here in Portland said he got the wrong day!

..not to mention that a LAX-BNA flight doesn't go anywhere near LFT.


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13120 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3055 times:

To me the TSA blew this one big time. They allowed someone to bring on an aircraft rope, handcuffs and so on all of which could have been used to take control of a flight. This is the kind of stuff that should have shown up on an X-ray and caused him to be nailed at security. I hope all of the TSA a the time he was at the airport he boarded at get fired and the rest tighten up.

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3048 times:



Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 17):
To me the TSA blew this one big time.

If they can't see the skeletal outline of a live cat in a suitcase....  Yeah sure


User currently offlineAZO From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 767 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2610 times:



Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 16):
..not to mention that a LAX-BNA flight doesn't go anywhere near LFT.

I believe it was mentioned in one of the articles I read that he had a connecting segment after the LAX-BNA flight that would bring him over Louisiana. So his intentions weren't meant for that first flight.



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User currently offlinePlunaaircanada From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2610 times:



Quoting CALMSP (Thread starter):
possible intent to crash the plane into a Hannah Montana concert

 bigthumbsup  LOL



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User currently offlineCactusHP From United States of America, joined May 2004, 348 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2461 times:

Besides having serious mental problems, this kid obviously did not understand the several reasons why it would be IMPOSSIBLE (yes, impossible) for him to gain access to the flight deck in flight. There are several lines of defenses to the cockpit to prove this:

1) The first line of defense is the flight attendants. The F/A's would never let a 16 year old kid near the flight deck door with handcuffs/ropes in clear view. (Besides if he was going to the restroom or something without those materials).

2) If for some reason the F/A's didn't do that, the passengers on the flight would take care of him. Passengers have learned since 9/11 to not mess around with potential hijackers, even if he is a kid.

3) IF, for some reason he got passed those two defenses, he would never actually make it into the cockpit, because all cockpits have a strengthened locked door that only the pilots can let people in.



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User currently offlineBoeingPride800 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 430 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2409 times:

The kid wouldn't have been able to carry out his plans anyhow, I mean come on.

Cockpit doors, taking hostage the flight crew/FAs and getting control of the plane? Just not plausible at all. And one 16 year old against how many other passengers? Yeah.


User currently offlineCVG2LGA From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 633 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2150 times:



Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 17):
To me the TSA blew this one big time. They allowed someone to bring on an aircraft rope, handcuffs and so on all of which could have been used to take control of a flight. This is the kind of stuff that should have shown up on an X-ray and caused him to be nailed at security. I hope all of the TSA a the time he was at the airport he boarded at get fired and the rest tighten up.

So you want to ban rope on flights huh? Yarn too? Why not add duct tape in there?
I can't tell you how many pairs of handcuffs I saw through the x-ray. Most of them fuzzy and some accompanied with shiny badge & unarmed LEO and a few that were confiscated.
Get Real!! Here is the paranoia resonating throughout America!!
Do you know what that rope would look like on an x-ray? I am curious to know if you do.

Tchau
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