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Another Antonov Accident In Africa  
User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 8611 posts, RR: 28
Posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1890 times:
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This time in Point Noire; a landing An-12 suffered a brake malfunction on landing and ploughed straight into what looks like an ex-Iraqi Airways 727. Two crew seriously injured, both aircraft w/o.

http://drugoi.livejournal.com/2492212.html


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User currently offlineScrubbsYWG From Canada, joined Mar 2007, 1293 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1854 times:

interesting. why does the 727 have what looks like "canadian" written on the side?

User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 8611 posts, RR: 28
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1646 times:
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Quoting ScrubbsYWG (Reply 1):
interesting. why does the 727 have what looks like "canadian" written on the side?

I guess whoever operates it now (or operated it until it was scrunched) decided to keep the basic IA livery and put their own titles on it. Some small, local operator, I would think.


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User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States, joined Jul 2003, 1899 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1579 times:

The 727-200 damaged would be 9L-LEF, cn 21482. The Canadian titles also appear to have Airways or Cargo next to it if you see ther torn out part. There was, IIRC, an operator that was using Canadian in their name in Africa about 5 years ago on an An-12 or 26...

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User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City State (Holy See), joined Dec 1999, 1945 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1504 times:

By my count, that's the 38th AN-12 destroyed since 1/1/2000.


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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 6915 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1473 times:



Quoting Spacepope (Reply 4):
By my count, that's the 38th AN-12 destroyed since 1/1/2000.

The AN12 is easily the aircraft involved most in accidents. But remember all these aircraft are 40 years old or more.
Rivalled only by its smaller sister, the AN-24/26/32.



Who is the operator of this Antonov?

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 3):
The 727-200 damaged would be 9L-LEF, cn 21482. The Canadian titles also appear to have Airways or Cargo next to it if you see ther torn out part.

The tail has been repainted as well, not the green Iraqi tail anymore. According to aviation-safety.net the operator is Teebah Airlines (an Iraqi airline based in Amman, registered in Sierra Leone, now that sounds trustworthy).

User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1455 times:

NA, the LET-410 is common as well...

User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 4574 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1432 times:

The AN12 might just be fixable with a new nose.

The B727 looks as if it will break if they try to move it.

Probably best to cannabilise it and scrap the hulk.

After all a "new" B727 must be fairly cheap.

User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1409 times:

Left wing is also bent on the An-12 and you only see one side of the fuselage.
B727 was made in 1978, I don´t think anyone repair such old plane with this severe damage?

[Edited 2008-01-26 10:22:50]

User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City State (Holy See), joined Dec 1999, 1945 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1349 times:



Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 7):
The AN12 might just be fixable with a new nose.



Quoting Alessandro (Reply 8):
Left wing is also bent on the An-12 and you only see one side of the fuselage.

Also, all 4 props damaged (engines too?) and left main gear collapsed (APU is in that wheel fairing). It looks like they just pulled the two airframes apart rather than waiting on an engineering crew. They're both toast.


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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 6915 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1059 times:

More photos here:

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.main?LC=nav2&picid=4426

User currently offlineTeneriffe77 From United States, joined Jul 2006, 334 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 905 times:

What I'd like to know is what made that second gash on the right side of the plane because the #3 engine doesn't look damaged enough have caused it and if it had been caused by the left main gear I would asume that the damaged would be greater.

User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 5126 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 594 times:

It is rumored that AN-12s often shut down three engines after landing and taxi on one engine only.

With the frequency at which those planes these days are raining down on mostly African soil it is easy to speculate that they are often operated with several systems (electric, hydraulic etc.) in inoperative state, relying on redundant systems only. And that way can end up with no brakes after having shut down the "wrong" engines.

Two of three flight deck crews on the AN were seriously injured.


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