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Southwest 485 Off Runway At GEG  
User currently offlineAUSTINALLISON From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 133 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 16478 times:

According to www.krem.com, Southwest Flight 485 is off the runway at GEG. It has been snowing heavily here, and most likely weather related. Will keep updated.

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User currently offlineFantikerz From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 16434 times:

Flight 485 at the south end of a runway surrounded by airport emergency vehicles. Pilot was taxiing to the gate when it slid off.

Passengers say they knew they were sliding off, and the cabin environment was calm. The flight was completely full due to 2 cancelled flights before. No injuries. 118 passengers.

The visibility is very poor up there I assume from listening to KHQ, and we're getting at least a foot.


User currently offlinePilotfox From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 552 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 16387 times:

Looks like the airport is closed.

01/045 (A0062/08) - AP CLSD. WIE UNTIL UFN. CREATED: 27 JAN 22:20 2008


User currently offlineFantikerz From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 16232 times:

Airport is closed until 4pm, or when the aircraft has been moved.
The other runway is not equipped with the proper lighting system for the visibility that we're having.


User currently offlineUSAIRWAYS321 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1848 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 16154 times:

From KREM.com:

A Southwest Airlines jet slid off a runway while making a snowy landing at Spokane International Airport on Sunday.

The Federal Aviation Administration in Seattle confirmed that flight 485 from Albuquerque to Spokane skidded off the runway during landing. The flight also made stops in Sacramento and Portland.

No one was hurt, and the plane was not damaged.

However, a passenger on the plane sent an email to KREM 2 News saying, "one Alaksa Air jet did land behind us and stopped in time to avoid crashing into our plane."

The passenger told KREM 2 News trucks were unable to pull the plane back onto the runway, and that buses will take all passengers back to the terminal.

There's no word on subsequent delays and cancellations of other flights taking off and landing at SIA.

http://www.krem.com/topstories/stori...em2_012708_planeskid.643eda04.html
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The link contains a passenger interview as well. It's no surprise with the storm the Inland Northwest is being hit with, just good to hear that everyone is safe.


User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2172 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 15747 times:

Last update....

ATCSCC ADVZY 065 GEG/ZSE 01/27/2008 GEG INFO
MESSAGE:
GEG IS NOT ACCEPTING ARRIVALS AT THIS TIME DUE TO ACFT INCIDENT..
RWY IS EXPECTED TO OPEN IN APPROX 60 MINUTES... UPDATES AS
AVAILABLE.
EFFECTIVE TIME:
272151 - 272359
SIGNATURE:
08/01/27 21:51


User currently offlineCitrusCritter From Pitcairn Islands, joined May 2007, 1104 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 15743 times:



Quoting Fantikerz (Reply 1):
Pilot was taxiing to the gate when it slid off.

Dadgum WN pilots, always taxiing at full landing speed instead of tapping on the breaks! Big grin



TLH
User currently offlineSkoker From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 439 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 15513 times:

Unusually enough, there is no confirmation of the incident as there usually is on Southwest.com.

Anyways, looks like WN8502 is gonna try and ferry up PHX-GEG to replace the damaged (?) acft.


User currently offlineSkyHarborsHome From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 273 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 15254 times:



Quoting Fantikerz (Reply 1):
The flight was completely full due to 2 cancelled flights before. No injuries. 118 passengers.

Full at 118? Was this a -500?

Glad for no injuries.



Fly CHD!
User currently offlineSkyHarborsHome From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 273 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 15134 times:

Just heard news report off of link of Yahoo. Flight was almost full.

Was interesting hearing the news anchors talking to passengers still on the plane via mobiles. You could hear crew instructions in the background. Also was surprised to hear that the passenger felt the plane sliding and then broke out in applause once they stopped, off the runway.

Still, no injuries and sounds like everyone did the best they could.



Fly CHD!
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 15097 times:



Quoting SkyHarborsHome (Reply 9):
Just heard news report off of link of Yahoo. Flight was almost full.

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/play...up/?rn=4226712&cl=6109807&src=news


User currently offlineZtagged From Niger, joined Oct 2007, 516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 14883 times:



Quoting SkyHarborsHome (Reply 8):
Full at 118? Was this a -500?

Nope, that would still leave 4 vacant seats on a -500. I guess 'full' to the media means more than 75-80% capacity is occupied.



Something awful.
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 14816 times:



Quoting Ztagged (Reply 11):
Nope, that would still leave 4 vacant seats on a -500. I guess 'full' to the media means more than 75-80% capacity is occupied.

I would call that full,

So did the A/C go off the end or did the wind push it off the side.

I ask because there was a JAL 747 in Anchorage that got pushed off the side of a icy taxiway about 30 years ago. That A/C was a W/O.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineFantikerz From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 14676 times:



Quoting L-188 (Reply 12):
So did the A/C go off the end or did the wind push it off the side.

It looks like it just slid off runway 25 as it was turning on to the taxiway, due to speed and the weather conditions.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 14590 times:



Quoting Fantikerz (Reply 13):
It looks like it just slid off runway 25 as it was turning on to the taxiway, due to speed and the weather conditions.

Sounds like they should have used more sand.

The only aircraft I ever had that didn't come home when I was dispatching was because of a lack of sand.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineEA772LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 14508 times:

How much damage to the aircraft?? Nothing serious I take it...


We often judge others by their actions, but ourselves by our intentions.
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 14298 times:



Quoting L-188 (Reply 12):
I ask because there was a JAL 747 in Anchorage that got pushed off the side of a icy taxiway about 30 years ago. That A/C was a W/O.

Actually, Boeing rebuilt the thing on-site. Took a few months, under tents, and Boeing had to barge alot of stuff up from Everett, but they did it. I think there as an article about it in Boeing's "Airliner" magazine. IIRC, they spent $20 million onthe repair and a repalcement 747 would have been $26 million at the time.

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19751216-0


User currently offlineSJC4Me From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 373 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 14182 times:



Quoting Fantikerz (Reply 1):
The flight was completely full due to 2 cancelled flights before. No injuries. 118 passengers.

"Completely" full would be 137 pax.



Unable.
User currently offlineZTagged From Niger, joined Oct 2007, 516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 14060 times:



Quoting SJC4Me (Reply 17):

"Completely" full would be 137 pax.

If we're talking a 733/73NG, of course. The 735 seats 122 in the standard WN configuration. According to FalseAaware, WN485 was a 733, which would be 137. 118/137 still leaves 19 open seats. That's still fairly close to a full flight.



Something awful.
User currently offlineArcrftLvr From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 826 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 14029 times:



Quoting SJC4Me (Reply 17):
"Completely" full would be 137 pax.

Not if it was a -500, in which case 'completely full' would be 123. At least on WN's -500s...


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 13936 times:



Quoting ArcrftLvr (Reply 19):
Not if it was a -500, in which case 'completely full' would be 123.

The 735s here seat 122 as another poster already mentioned...


User currently offlineZTagged From Niger, joined Oct 2007, 516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 13898 times:



Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 20):

Riddle me this. What does WN consider a 'full' flight? 137/137, or some percentage of it?



Something awful.
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 13809 times:



Quoting ZTagged (Reply 21):
Riddle me this. What does WN consider a 'full' flight? 137/137, or some percentage of it?

Full to me means 122 or 137, i.e. there's no room for non-revs because all available seats have folks in them.

That said, to some other folks, "full" can easily mean "mostly" full or "almost completely" full.


User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 23, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 13760 times:



Quoting ZTagged (Reply 21):
Riddle me this. What does WN consider a 'full' flight? 137/137, or some percentage of it?

As OPNLGuy mentioned..

When I worked at the gate, if the plane had no room to put non revs on board it was full to me. Seats open, that WN is available to sell was considered open to me. Whether it was 1 seat or 15, it was open to me.

If there was 3 seats open left on a -700 and someone asked me how full, I would respond it is almost full or something like that.

Alex



Good things come to those who wait, better things come to those who go AFTER it!
User currently offlineZTagged From Niger, joined Oct 2007, 516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 13692 times:



Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 23):



Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 22):

That's what I thought, yeah. Just had to make sure there wasn't another term instead of 'full'.



Something awful.
25 ArcrftLvr : I stand corrected. I could've sworn the tag in the galley indicated 123. Learn something new everyday....
26 ASMD11 : The aircraft actually landed on runway 3, and slid off on the 21 end of it. GEG was closed for just over 4 hours this afternoon. Between the weather
27 Post contains links USAIRWAYS321 : KHQ has a few pictures up on this page: http://www.khq.com/global/story.asp?s=7781060 All told, over 11 inches of snow fell at GEG in the last 24 hour
28 Sandyb123 : Erm? Did I read this right. So the Southwest 737 landed and skidded off the runway and an Alaska Air plane landed behind them? Maybe I have got my wi
29 ASMD11 : That is exactly what happened. I spoke with the pilot of the AS flight when I met the aircraft he said that WN reported that they were clearing the r
30 QANTAS747-438 : AC landed fine, though with poor braking conditions, and taxied off the runway. While taxiing off, the ac then slid into a grassy area. Ac was reporte
31 AirWillie6475 : Doesn't seem serious, typical news media sensationalizing. The lady said they were at a slow speed trying to exit the runway when the airplane just sl
32 Post contains images ZTagged : Sounds like my kind of landing! I can only imagine that happening.
33 Hiflyer : ASMD11 thanks for that update.....sounds like there were 3 SW aircraft and 1 AS aircraft moving on the field....3 of 4 did some not normal maneuvering
34 BigWNFan : Reg. # of the aircraft?
35 DAYflyer : Glad to hear there were no injuries. Must have been interesting sitting on that plane during this incident. Glad it didn't turn out to be another Midw
36 L-188 : I heard they didn't even need to call Patroni!
37 Ssides : Does WN fly ABQ-GEG nonstop?
38 Post contains images Access-Air : I was just gonna say that!!! Ya beat me to it...... Access-Air
39 Sjc4me : No, it had stops in SAN, SMF and PDX I believe.
40 Post contains images Lincoln : First and foremost, glad that no one was injured [ Ok, I get AP = Airport, CLSD = Closed UFN = Until Further Notice, but what is "WIE" (And isn't "Unt
41 Post contains images HOOB747 : You made me laugh out loud!!! I love Airport '75!!
42 Post contains images SPREE34 : Another Aviation Expert speaks. Cool. A real and reasonable view of things. Pretty much what my buddy in GEG said. As usual. Once they realize there'
43 Chi-town : Any pictures? filler
44 WNCrew : As a SIDENOTE: I make that announcement even if the flight isn't really 100% full. 10 seats may not seem full to you or any other pax but for carry-o
45 Post contains links Chi-town : Haha Southwest 485 is still listed as on-time...... http://www.spokaneairports.net/arrival_1.htm
46 Viscount724 : See the link in Reply 27.
47 Chi-town : Whoops, my bad....I thought this happened today
48 OPNLguy : "With immediate effect"
49 Post contains links TUIflyer : LATEST UPDATE: 'The runway was temporarily closed at Spokane airport Sunday evening after an inbound flight lost grip and began sliding after landing.
50 Leothedog : I'm sure if you were on the plane, you would've yelling... YEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA......!!!!!!!!!! LOL
51 Post contains links ASMD11 : I have some picuters, but I haven't had a chance to get them off the camera yet. There are also some pictures on www.krem.com www.kxly.com and www.kh
52 Nwray : Just wondering, for those in the industry, how much of a "big deal" is it for personnel who were involved in flying the aircraft and maintaining the a
53 OPNLguy : Too many variables to provide an answer--each situation is unique. BTW, no damage to the aircraft, and it was back in revenue service a couple of day
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