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Minimum Connection Times: CLE Vs. EWR On CO  
User currently offlineAC888YOW From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 536 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 8534 times:

Hello:

I will be travelling from YOW to LAX in a couple of months and I am examining the booking options on CO.

The two best options are:

1) YOW-CLE-LAX => A 6:30AM departure from YOW with a 35 minute connection in CLE.
2) YOW-EWR-LAX => A 6:00AM departure from YOW with a 1h 11m connection in EWR.

Note that YOW-CLE and YOW-EWR are operated by CO Express.

Option 1 is preferable for a number of reasons, but I must admit that 35 minute connection makes me nervous. But of course it can't be too low otherwise the airline wouldn't sell it that way. Right?

Which would you choose?

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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12150 posts, RR: 49
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 8525 times:

Being in CLE let me reassure you that 35 minutes will most likely give you plenty of time to make your connection.


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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 8496 times:



Quoting AC888YOW (Thread starter):
Option 1 is preferable for a number of reasons, but I must admit that 35 minute connection makes me nervous. But of course it can't be too low otherwise the airline wouldn't sell it that way. Right?

Each airport has minimum connection times: domestic to domestic, domestic to international, international to domestic, times between the different airlines for each. Airlines cannot by law sell anything that is under that minimum connection time. CLE's is obviously a much shorter time than EWR simply because of the size of both airports. In EWR, you can land on a domestic flight on A Terminal, and have to go all the way to C for your next domestic flight. In CLE, you have usually no more than a 5-minute walk between a point on C for Continental to a point on D for COEX.

If you're on time, 35 minutes is more than enough to connect in CLE for CO.


User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 8399 times:

Go for CLE, not for just connection times but ATC EWR seems to have delays alot of the time.


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User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 8378 times:

I would say that 35 mins should be enough. One thing to keep in mind here in YOW is when you'll be travelling. If you're travelling in Winter-time, you should build in time for de-icing (just in case) and with a slew of early morning departures, the de-icing bay can get busy and that could eat into your connection time.

If you're travelling in the Spring or Summer, you should be fine and I'd go with the CLE connection. Much less of a hassle than via EWR.

LH423



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User currently offlineAC888YOW From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 8356 times:

Thanks for the replies.

Quoting LH423 (Reply 4):
One thing to keep in mind here in YOW is when you'll be travelling. If you're travelling in Winter-time, you should build in time for de-icing (just in case) and with a slew of early morning departures, the de-icing bay can get busy and that could eat into your connection time.

That's what I'm most worried about. I am looking at a late March departure, and de-icing at 6am along with all other morning departures certainly isn't out of the question.

I'm currently considering a connection in EWR on the way there just for the extra connection buffer and a CLE connection on the way back.


User currently offlineATLFlyer323 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 623 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week ago) and read 8344 times:

Personally I would go for the CLE connection. The airport is a lot easier to get around than EWR in my opinion. Have you looked at flight times, aircraft, and loads for both airports in case you miss your connection? I would think the CLE would have lighter loads, but probably smaller aircraft as well.

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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12150 posts, RR: 49
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week ago) and read 8339 times:

Hey come through CLE and if you misconnect I'll personally show you around during your layover.


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User currently offlineAC888YOW From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8287 times:



Quoting ATLFlyer323 (Reply 6):
Personally I would go for the CLE connection. The airport is a lot easier to get around than EWR in my opinion. Have you looked at flight times, aircraft, and loads for both airports in case you miss your connection?

Loads are heavy everywhere as it is Easter weekend. Aircraft types are basically identical. If I search CO's online timetable I can see that EWR has more backup options for getting to LAX closest to my originally scheduled time in the event of a miss.


User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5604 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8280 times:



Quoting ATLFlyer323 (Reply 6):
I would think the CLE would have lighter loads, but probably smaller aircraft as well.

Actually, the planes are essentially the same - ERJ from YOW and 738 from either EWR or CLE.

I say essentially because the ERJ is a 135 to CLE and a 145 to EWR.

If CO lists the connection for sale, they have to believe that it will work almost all of the time. The advantage EWR has is that if the connection is missed, the passenger doesn't have to wait as long for the next possible flight.



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User currently offlineCALPilot From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 999 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8228 times:



Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 9):
The advantage EWR has is that if the connection is missed, the passenger doesn't have to wait as long for the next possible flight.

Massey, I hope you have a good flight either way. However, you have your answer right here with the backup flights. For me I'd take CLE; goodluck.


User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5604 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8219 times:



Quoting CALPilot (Reply 10):
Massey, I hope you have a good flight either way. However, you have your answer right here with the backup flights. For me I'd take CLE; goodluck.

 Smile AC888YOW is the passenger, not me. I usually do fly through CLE; can't get Great Lakes beer in EWR.



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12150 posts, RR: 49
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 8193 times:



Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 11):
AC888YOW is the passenger, not me. I usually do fly through CLE; can't get Great Lakes beer in EWR.

I like Great Lakes Beer, though not the special Christmas edition.



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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5604 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8171 times:

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 12):
I like Great Lakes Beer, though not the special Christmas edition.

The Sports Bar in Concourse D serves GL Dortmunder, which I like.

Edit: Of course, AC888 may not care if he's passing through at 8-something in the morning.

[Edited 2008-01-28 12:46:41]


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User currently offlineKstateinALB From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8126 times:

From personal experience...my flight on CO Express landed and parked up at the COEX terminal. I didn't have much time to make the next flight, around 15 minutes or so....so to make it to the adjacent terminal, I ran down through the tunnel, stubbing my big toe in the process, as I was wearing sandals. My next flight was at the gate across from the McDonald's or Burger King, and when I got there, it took maybe 5-7 minutes. You should have plenty of time to get to your next flight, however, and knock on wood, if something does occur, make sure you know a backup flight to get you to where you need to go...


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User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 8094 times:

To parrot everyone else, do CLE. Much easier airport to manage, 35 minutes is more than enough to make an online connection in Cleveland, and it seems the CO pads the schedule in the winter to account for deicing so don't be too worried about that.

CLE is also far less likely to be hit by ATC delays and weather slowdowns than EWR, IME.

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 13):
Edit: Of course, AC888 may not care if he's passing through at 8-something in the morning.

I don't know... Around Christmas I once had a purser trying to get me sloshed on an 8:30 CLE-LAX flght  Wink [On one hand, I didn't want to refuse the generous offer, on the other hand I figured showing up at the relatives drunk before noon probably wouldn't reflect well on me

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User currently offlineAC888YOW From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 8054 times:

Many thanks to all for the information.

User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8379 posts, RR: 23
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 8034 times:

Do Cleveland, avoid EWR at all costs! Seriously, though, 35 mins in plenty... just don't lollygag, you'll likely have to make the jog underground from D to C concourse!


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