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"Lufthansa Cargo / DHL Express Joint Venture Airline 'AeroLogic' to Operate Boeing 777 Freighters
Monday January 28, 5:04 AM EST
SEATTLE, Jan 28, 2008 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Boeing (BA)today announced that Deucalion Capital VII Limited ("Deucalion"), a company advised and managed by DVB Bank AG, has purchased eight Boeing 777 Freighters for lease to AeroLogic, a new joint venture airline formed by Lufthansa Cargo and DHL Express.
Valued at $2 billion at list prices, the eight 777 Freighters were ordered by Avion Group of Iceland in 2005. Avion Group terminated its order and the airplanes were picked up by Deucalion in late 2007.
Deucalion will lease the freighters to AeroLogic, the joint venture first announced by Lufthansa Cargo and DHL Express last year, for cargo services on European-Asian routes. AeroLogic will operate out of Leipzig, Germany.
"The 777 Freighter's twin-engine fuel efficiency, low noise and overall capability are perfectly suited for our new cargo service out of Leipzig," said AeroLogic Managing Director Dr. Thomas Papke. "Its combination of long range and maximum payload make it a highly economical and profitable freighter. I can't imagine another freighter that would work as well as the 777 Freighter in meeting our demanding environmental and performance targets."
The 777 Freighter will be capable of flying 4,885 nautical miles (9,045 kilometers) with a full payload, making it the world's longest-range freighter. With the lowest trip cost of any large freighter and excellent ton-mile economics, the 777 Freighter will build on the 777 family's demonstrated success in delivering lower fuel consumption, maintenance costs and operating costs than other airplanes in its class.
"As one of the newest members of the Boeing family of freighters, the 777 Freighter is a symbol of our commitment to offering customers the most capable and efficient freighters in the world," said Marlin Dailey, vice president of Sales for Europe, Russia and Central Asia, Boeing Commercial Airplanes. "With a record 83 orders for freighters in 2007, our freighter family is recognized by customers around the world as offering superior performance. I look forward to our partnership with AeroLogic as the 777 Freighter becomes a cornerstone of its success."
The 777 Freighter will feature unmatched capacity and range for a twin-engine freighter and is designed to facilitate seamless interlining with the 747 freighter. With a maximum takeoff weight of 766,000 pounds (347,450 kilograms), the 777 Freighter will have a revenue payload capability of more than 226,000 pounds (103 metric tons). In addition, the 777 Freighter will meet QC2 noise standards for maximum accessibility to noise-sensitive airports.
About AeroLogic GmbH
AeroLogic GmbH is jointly owned by DHL Express and Lufthansa Cargo AG, with each company holding a 50 percent stake. The airline, which was founded in September 2007 and is based in Leipzig/Schkeuditz, developed from the joint venture set up by the two partners in 2004. The company currently has about 20 employees. In all, AeroLogic is expected to generate about 250 new jobs, roughly 200 of which will be for cockpit crew. By 2012, the AeroLogic fleet will encompass eleven leased Boeing 777-200Fs, the first four of which are scheduled for delivery at the beginning of 2009. AeroLogic's cargo capacities will mainly be used by DHL Express and Lufthansa Cargo. The two partners will also be responsible for sales and warehouse handling. Operations are being planned around both partners' requirements: on weekdays, freighters will fly to Asian destinations in the express network operated by DHL Express. At weekends, they will supplement Lufthansa Cargo's services. For customers of the parent companies, AeroLogic will mean more capacity, more flexibility, an expanded network and improved operating times.
About DVB Bank AG
DVB Bank AG, based in Frankfurt/Main, is an international advisory bank and finance house that specializes in the global transport market. DVB offers integrated financing solutions and advisory services in respect of Shipping, Aviation, and Land Transport. The Bank operates out of offices in Frankfurt/Main, Hamburg, London, New York, Rotterdam, Hong Kong, Singapore, Tokyo, Bergen/Oslo, Piraeus, and Curacao. DVB Bank AG is listed on the Frankfurt Stock Exchange . http://www.dvbbank.com"
[Edited 2008-01-28 05:01:50]
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WILCO737 From Greenland, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 8533 posts, RR: 78 Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7059 times:
Columba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 6835 posts, RR: 5 Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6974 times:
Thanks for sharing, I was waiting for the release of the new name for months. Honestly I am quite disappointed since it took them so long to find a name this one is rather boring, isn´t ??
It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
USAF336TFS From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 53 Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6929 times:
Quoting Columba (Reply 2): Honestly I am quite disappointed since it took them so long to find a name this one is rather boring, isn´t ??
I couldn't agree with you more. Perhaps their livery will make up for the boring, already-used, name. We'll have to .
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USAF336TFS From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 53 Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 6569 times:
PanHAM,
Thanks! Livery isn't bad. The aircraft themselves look wonderful. Website isn't bad either.
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USAF336TFS From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 53 Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 6523 times:
Quoting BlueSky1976 (Reply 12): This paint scheme doesn't do the justice to the Mighty Triple Seven.
I absolutely agree with you. I didn't say I loved it, but I've seen worse. All in all, your comment about not doing this magnificent aircraft justice is right on the money!
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YOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4788 posts, RR: 17 Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6481 times:
It's seems as if LH owns a piece of (or is looking to own a piece of) everything on earth! This seems like a very polished operation in the making. Let's see what happens. What is the delivery schedule for their metal?
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9130 posts, RR: 13 Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6271 times:
That is a boring and unappealing livery. If the yellow/red DHL livery was adopted that would have been nicer and attract more attention in my opinion. Either way, good luck to Aerologic.
PanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 7839 posts, RR: 27 Reply 16, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6249 times:
Don't forget that this company is supposed to be neutral. Painting the a/c into the regular DHL livery would give it a particular identity, which is a competitor to other high volume customers.
As a manager for Panalpina or Kuehne & Nagel, I will try to avoid to put my freight on a DHL aircraft which also stands for what used to be Danzas.
AeroLogic sells space on the weekend to LCAG and they retail it to their customers which are the freight forwarders.
Next to NewCo - the fun is not over. There will be another new cargo airline which will operate the 6 763F ordered by DHL on services to North America.The name of that company will be released in February. (and the livery as well I guess)
NA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 9705 posts, RR: 10 Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5939 times:
Well thats the kind of "livery" I would be very shy to ask more than 1000 Euros for if I´d be in charge of the design agency. Did I say "livery", no, thats a no-design. If it would have been a crappy owner from Absurdistan, ok, but who would have expected such shit from LH and DHL? Plain awful.
BDRules From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 1501 posts, RR: 3 Reply 19, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5908 times:
Quoting A390 (Reply 18): Does anyone have any idea of the routings Aerologic will or might fly?
Have a look on their web site my friend http://www.aerologic.aero and have a look under network. It will be Leipzig, Frankfurt, Milan and EMA in Europe.
Columba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 6835 posts, RR: 5 Reply 20, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5858 times:
Quoting BDRules (Reply 19): Have a look on their web site my friend http://www.aerologic.aero and have a look under network. It will be Leipzig, Frankfurt, Milan and EMA in Europe.
ORD and JFK are the only routes in the US. No routes to Canada or South America and the main focus will be in Asia.
I guess other cities in the US and Canada see enough service with DHL and LH Cargo and the Aero Logic routes are only supplement.
It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
BDRules From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 1501 posts, RR: 3 Reply 21, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5845 times:
The planes will fly to Asia on weekdays and will run to the states over the weekend. Thats what i am aware of. DHL during week and Lufty Cargo over the weekend
Fraport From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 137 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5809 times:
Quoting NA (Reply 17): Well thats the kind of "livery" I would be very shy to ask more than 1000 Euros for if I´d be in charge of the design agency. Did I say "livery", no, thats a no-design. If it would have been a crappy owner from Absurdistan, ok, but who would have expected such shit from LH and DHL? Plain awful.
Incredible how much importance is being attached to their livery by some people here
Maybe this is just a preliminary design?? And even if it's the final design, so what?! It's a cargo airline. Who cares for a catchy livery, except some A.net freaks...
NA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 9705 posts, RR: 10 Reply 23, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5789 times:
Quoting Fraport (Reply 22): Who cares for a catchy livery, except some A.net freaks...
I don´t understand that an aviation fan say such things, but maybe you are not. What do you want to say, that you just accidentally surfed this website? I guess, you still like aircraft, like their beauty - and the livery is an integral part of it, it can make a beauty look bad and an ugly plane acceptable.
Quoting NA (Reply 23): I don´t understand that an aviation fan say such things, but maybe you are not. What do you want to say, that you just accidentally surfed this website? I guess, you still like aircraft, like their beauty - and the livery is an integral part of it, it can make a beauty look bad and an ugly plane acceptable.
Nothing more has to be said. This is a site for aviation enthusiasts and not for airline business people and therefore things like a livery can be discussed here.
[Edited 2008-01-29 07:15:11]
It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
25 Eaa3: According to Avion Group they didn't cancel the orders but rather sold them to Aerologic themselves.
26 Fraport: Yes I do. And I appreciate a nice livery very much. (Btw, there are very few nice liveries out there) But I don't understand how one can rip up a liv
27 USAF336TFS: That's my understanding as well. The production slots were important in this deal. Forgive my memory, but don't they still have 777Fs on order? Or ar
29 OwlEye: Livery: quick without imagination but neat & cost effective.
30 Seabosdca: Just a little more color would have been nice, and the logo doesn't look good on the vertical stabilizer. The dark gray engines (if they are really t
31 YOWza: With LH behind them they won't need a fancy scheme to draw attention to their existence. YOWza
32 SXDFC: I sometimes do fantasy schemes, I will see what I can do with this airline.
33 PanHAM: That's the point. They will not be on the market. No customer relation whatsoever. The space is filled by DHL and what DHL doesnot fill, willbe marke
35 LifelinerOne: In which country will the B777 be registered? Are this going to be the first German registered Triple Sevens? Cheers!
36 Columba: Very likely, the aircraft will be based in Leipzig and the company has its headquarters in Germany. Well said, but this is not a freight forwarders f
37 PanHAM: I could not resist to take this volley and make the matchpoint Of course all of you can discuss about what beautiful liveries are possible. But permi
38 Columba: I - and I believe most people here-know that liveries are a marketing tool but still since this is an enthusiast forum where else could you say that
39 WILCO737: I always feel "home" when I come to the airport and I see the Lufthansa tail!!! I'm lovin' it!! And I am somewhat proud to drive around the world in
40 Boeing777/747: Found this one. What a difference a belly paint makes. Would also mask dirt.
41 NA: Beancounters thinking. I dare to thats the wrong way of thinking in a forum like this.
42 USAF336TFS: I would think that Lufthansa Technik would be responsible for maintenance of these aircraft. Looks like ground crews will be provided by both owner co
43 Fraport: At least your way of thinking (and talking) is the right one:
44 USAF336TFS: Please do one! You never know... Maybe it'll make it onto the first one at Paine Field! To the best of my knowledge, yes, these will be the first Mig
45 N27UADIESEL8: The rumor has it that the 6 B763F ordered by DHL will be to replace the 7 A300 flying for Astar Air Cargo. Humberside: It is a good question since I
46 USAF336TFS: Aster is technically not owned by DHL, due to U.S. foreign ownership restrictions. I guess the could lease the aircraft to them, but it seems more li
47 Mham001: One poster mentions he doesn't understand the angst over liveries, gets blasted as a "non-enthusiast" and then told that this opinion is not "A-net c
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