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Westjet Fleet, Why No 4's In The Fleet Number?  
User currently offlineAC_B777 From Canada, joined Aug 2000, 809 posts, RR: 13
Posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6083 times:

I was looking at the WS 73NG fleet and I noticed that apart from one single -700 series, C-GWJE FIN # 244, there isn't any other a/c that FIN # ends with a '4'.
It seems that WS skips that number. There is # 003 then 005, 203 then 205 etc, but none other than the one mentioned above that ends with four. Anyone know the reason for this? Is there some superstition with the number four?
I'm just curious.

Here is a link with the WS fleet info with FIN #'s,
http://www.yyznews.com/WJAFleet.html


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User currently offlineBok269 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 2104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5976 times:

I am next to positive that 4 is considered unlucky in certain Asian cultures. When I was at the Vancouver airport Mariott, there were no floors that included 4s. Maybe the large Asian population in Canada has something to do with it?


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User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2956 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5761 times:



Quoting Bok269 (Reply 1):
am next to positive that 4 is considered unlucky in certain Asian cultures.

Correct. In Chinese culture. Japanese aren't as superstitious.
Perhaps somebody high up or the fleet planner at Westjet is Chinese.


User currently offlineVoodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 2077 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5719 times:

Hmm.... how did they manage to sell any A340s or 747-400s in Asia I wonder?  Wink


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User currently offlineTribird1011 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5608 times:



Quoting AC_B777 (Thread starter):
apart from one single -700 series, C-GWJE FIN # 244, there isn't any other a/c that FIN # ends with a '4'.

That's not correct - there are no fin #'s that end in '4' == C-GWJE is currently fin 245 (a -700), however Westjet has used this registration before on a -200 as well -- fin # 735

http://www.airliners.net/photo/WestJet/Boeing_737-7CT/1306349/medium/ (now)
http://www.airliners.net/photo/WestJ...Boeing_737-275-Adv/0830754/medium/ (then)


As for the reason for no fin #'s ending in '4', I've heard the "unluckyness" of the number 4 in some Asian cultures, but I've also heard that there were a couple of high profile crashes (one with Western Pacific, I think) where the fin numbers of those aircraft involved ended in 4.

Not sure what link/relationship Westjet had/has with Western Pacific, but i find it rather interesting how an event specific to one airline affects the decisions of another (business practices aside, of course)


User currently offlineBartonsayswhat From Canada, joined Oct 2007, 434 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5515 times:

i'm pretty sure in japan 4 is associatied or sounds the same as the word for death. i know there was a lot of talk a few years ago in Formula 1 when takuma sato was assigned number 4

User currently offlineBrianHames From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 795 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5482 times:



Quoting Bartonsayswhat (Reply 5):
i'm pretty sure in japan 4 is associatied or sounds the same as the word for death

Not sure about Japanese. But "4" and "to die" are very similar in Mandarin Chinese. Same pronunciation, just a different intonation.


User currently offlineCF105Arrow From Canada, joined Oct 2007, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5478 times:



Quoting Bartonsayswhat (Reply 5):
i'm pretty sure in japan 4 is associatied or sounds the same as the word for death. i know there was a lot of talk a few years ago in Formula 1 when takuma sato was assigned number 4

''4'' is pronounced as shi in Japanese, which is same to the word ''death.'' ''9'' is pronounced as ku in Japanese, which is same to the word ''pain.'' So the two are considered as unlucky numbers. Hospitals usually have neither 4th or 9th floors.


User currently offlineAC_B777 From Canada, joined Aug 2000, 809 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5416 times:

Seems strange to me that an Canadian airline that does not fly to Japan would do this. I know there is a large Asian population here in Canada, but seems a little silly to me.
Imagine all companies doing things like this to suite foreign cultures.
No offence of coarse to any person of Asian origin.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25356 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5376 times:



Quoting AC_B777 (Reply 8):
Seems strange to me that an Canadian airline that does not fly to Japan would do this. I know there is a large Asian population here in Canada, but seems a little silly to me. Imagine all companies doing things like this to suite foreign cultures. No offence of course to any person of Asian origin.

The number 8 definitely is considered lucky in Chinese, and I have read that the connection is stronger in HKG due to the Cantonese dialect. Quite a few flights from HKG seem to favor 8 in the flight number, especially to Canada which has a very large HKG emigrant and expatriate community, especially in YVR and YYZ.

CX has used flight number 888 for years on their HKG-YVR-JFK flight. Their other two flights to YVR are 838 and 836, and their flights to YYZ are 828 and 826. AC's HKG-YVR nonstop is flight number 008.


User currently offlineYYCowboy From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 147 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5258 times:

Its probably something as simple as someone spilled coffee on the keyboard and the #$, ummm # four key ceses to work.


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