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How Is Emirates DXB-IAH Service Doing?  
User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11291 times:

With the launch of the Dec. 3td 2007 n/s service DXB-IAH-DXB EK211/212 how is this route doing 2 months into the route?

I know that on the 1st February they start daily service.
EMIRATES TO BEGIN DAILY SERVICE FROM DUBAI TO HOUSTON

So does EK have more than (1) 77L to start this now? I know that GRU requires a 77L.

What are load/cargo factors looking like for this route, good enough for a A380 ever?


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User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3661 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11263 times:

The daily service starting 01Feb08 was planned during the announcement of IAH-DXB-IAH once more 77L had been added to the fleet. Loads for passengers and cargo have been great since they had started, as reported in the IAH Spotters group. As for the A380, it would be nice to see it at IAH, however, it's been discussed on here that it doesn't have the range to go nonstop. Instead of going 2x daily, it could be possible to see 10weekly before 2x daily in the future.


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User currently offlinePa747sp From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 11205 times:



Quoting BoeingFever777 (Thread starter):
What are load/cargo factors looking like for this route, good enough for a A380 ever?

You thinking that EK is the best chance to see the big 'Bus in IAH?



Nothing seems as good since the VC10.
User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 11171 times:

Quoting Pa747sp (Reply 2):
You thinking that EK is the best chance to see the big 'Bus in IAH?

Ok who else that has the A380 and currently flys into IAH would use an A380?

BA Never!
AF Doubtful!
SQ "Starting March 08"
QR "Starting Summer 08"

So yes, that is/was my thinking.

[Edited 2008-01-31 15:52:26]


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User currently offlinePa747sp From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 11124 times:



Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 3):



Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 3):
So yes, that is/was my thinking.

Well, they are buying 56 of them, so I am thinking that they will eventually be deployed on most of the long-haul routes.



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User currently offlineHaan From South Africa, joined Aug 2004, 289 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 11022 times:

The rourte is doing extremely well. Today's flight to Houstan and back is overbooked.
Emirates definately did a great job in selecting this route.


User currently offlineN104UA From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 906 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 10995 times:

The one on 3 FEB has 2F and 8C and about 30Y avaible


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User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 10927 times:



Quoting N104UA (Reply 6):
The one on 3 FEB has 2F and 8C and about 30Y avaible

How do you know this... Do you work for EK?



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User currently offlineN104UA From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 906 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 10710 times:

I use KVS availability


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User currently offlineMrBrightSide From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 202 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 10628 times:



Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 3):

BA Never!
AF Doubtful!
SQ "Starting March 08"
QR "Starting Summer 08"

With all due respect to 777, I don't see where does your negative reaction comes form. BA bought quite enough of A380, but they're in insufficient numbers for IAH. Who knows, I didn't check BA yields on their flight to IAH - but if it would be doable, they would probably fly in to IAH.

AF is same scenario, has other lucrative routes to cover with A380 first... SQ has to fill in the SIN-FRA-JFK, SIN-HKG-SFO, SIN-TPE-LAX (if only two latter lines had alternative airport endings... would die for SIN-TPE-SFO)...



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User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7247 posts, RR: 85
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 10457 times:
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Getting back on topic from the last reply...  Yeah sure

Did EK announce a 7x week flight to IAH before the flight even started? If not, I would say service to IAH is doing fine. I'm sure Haliburton is buying seats on those flights as they moved their HQ to UAE.

Any specific loads from insiders would be appreciated.  yes 

 twocents 


User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3661 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10123 times:



Quoting FXramper (Reply 10):
Did EK announce a 7x week flight to IAH before the flight even started? If not, I would say service to IAH is doing fine. I'm sure Haliburton is buying seats on those flights as they moved their HQ to UAE.

Here's the official press release for IAH. It does mention going daily on 01Feb08.
http://www.emirates.com/us/english/a..._TO_LAUNCH_FLIGHTS_TO_HOUSTON.aspx

Quoting FXramper (Reply 10):
DUBAI, U.A.E., 8th February 2007 - Emirates, one of the world's most successful and fastest-growing international airlines, is set to launch services to Houston, Texas - its second destination in the United States starting 3rd December 2007.
The non-stop service between Dubai and Houston will initially operate three times a week, increasing to a daily service from 1st February 2008. Emirates will fly its new Boeing 777-200LR on the route, offering 266 seats in a three-class configuration and up to 18 tonnes of cargo capacity.
HH Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed Al-Maktoum, Chairman and Chief Executive, Emirates Airline and Group said: "We believe there is a strong and growing demand for convenient air travel connections between the USA and cities in the Middle East and Indian Subcontinent, as illustrated by the success of Emirates' services to New York JFK.
"It has been our intention to expand our presence in North America and the delivery of our new 777-200LRs aircraft later this year will enable us to operate these ultra long-haul routes efficiently, while providing our passengers with the latest comforts and amenities onboard. We very much look forward to starting services to Houston, our second gateway in the USA."
Emirates' new non-stop service will provide its customers in the Middle East and Asia with direct access to the fourth largest city in the US. Houston is a hub for the country's oil and energy-related industries, and one of the largest international gateways into the US.
When launched, the Dubai-Houston non-stop service will also be Emirates' longest flight - clocking 17 hours flying time to North America, while the shorter return journey will be at just over 15 hours.
On the Dubai-Houston route, Emirates' technologically-advanced 777-200LR aircraft will offer the latest inflight amenities. Designed for optimum comfort on ultra long-haul travel, it will be fitted with eight luxurious private suites in First class, 42 of its latest lie-flat seats in Business class, and generous space for 216 passengers in Economy class. Emirates will also operate the flight with two crews onboard, to ensure passengers receive the highest levels of service and care throughout the journey.
Passengers in all classes will enjoy the award-winning service from Emirates' international cabin crew recruited from over 100 countries around the world; meals prepared by gourmet chefs; as well as the airline's cutting-edge 'ice' (information, communication, entertainment) system, which offers a selection of over 600 channels of entertainment on demand and the ability to send and receive email and text messages from their personal in-seat entertainments systems.
Houston is the fourth new destination that Emirates has announced it will be introducing in 2007. The airline had already unveiled plans to start services to Venice in July, Newcastle in September, and Sao Paulo in October. Emirates' global route network currently spans 87 cities in 59 countries across Africa, Europe, the Far East, Indian Subcontinent, and North America. For flight information and bookings, visit: www.emirates.com.
Flight timings for Emirates' Dubai-Houston service (starting 3rd December 2007)
EK211 Departs Dubai (DXB) at 09:05 hrs on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays,
and arrives in Houston (IAH) at 16:10hrs
EK212 Departs Houston at 18:25 hrs on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays
and arrives in Dubai at 19:35 hrs the next day

*All times indicated are local




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User currently offlineYellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6091 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10041 times:

I believe i n a previous thread that the cargo yields have excellent..with the loads only being limited by the ability of the LR to get to DXB with the winds....

IT is safe to say that DXB-IAH is doing very very well with the premium classes going out full almost every flt. I would say it is doing leaps and bounds better than GRU...

Also remember that most of this traffic is O&D so it is that much higher yielding..

I would say that if the 380 had the range....it would be on this route very quickly.



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User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9916 times:

What is the chance EK would double daily to IAH due to the success of the route?

Wish the A380 had the range to do IAH...



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User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3661 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9876 times:



Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 13):
What is the chance EK would double daily to IAH due to the success of the route?

I'd like to think EK would increase flights to IAH by the end of the year, granted they get a few more 77L. Does anyone know EK's upcoming delivery schedule for 77Ls?



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17063 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9858 times:



Quoting Haan (Reply 5):
Today's flight to Houstan and back is overbooked.

And it diverted to ARN this afternoon. I think due a sick pax!!!



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User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9790 times:



Quoting AznMadSci (Reply 14):
I'd like to think EK would increase flights to IAH by the end of the year, granted they get a few more 77L. Does anyone know EK's upcoming delivery schedule for 77Ls?

So EK has (4) 77l

A6-ECF
A6-EWD
A6-EWC
A6-EWB

Has for the next few 77L of the line...

C-FNND ACA 35246 233LR 310108 035 F/f in full c/s as C-FNND
Air Canada

697 N701DN DAL 29740 232LR 066 Seen PAE 200108 & 210108 in primer
Delta Airlines

698 VT-ALE AIC 36304 237LR 015
Air India

699 C-FNNH ACA 35247 233LR 036
Air Canada



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User currently offlineEK77W From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9768 times:



Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 16):
A6-ECF
A6-EWD
A6-EWC
A6-EWB

ECF is a 77W, the 4 77L's are:

A6-EWA
A6-EWB
A6-EWC
A6-EWD

EK77W



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User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7247 posts, RR: 85
Reply 18, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9753 times:
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Does EK have a agreement or codeshare with anyone? I think I can use them non-rev with FXGT, but I'm not sure.

Would love to drive down to IAH and use this flight sometime.


User currently offlineAnetter123 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9741 times:

After SQ's EWR-SIN flight, is this the next longest flight in the world or does TG's JFK-BKK still beat this one?

Glad to see the flight is doing well.  Smile


User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3661 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9713 times:



Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 16):
Has for the next few 77L of the line...

I'm not familiar with delivery schedules, but is this for the rest of the year, or just what's on tap for the next few months? Is EK expecting any more 77L this year? If not, the only possible way EK could expand would be through a direct flight using 5th freedom rights. But for right now, it's good that EK is showing some promise at IAH!



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User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 21, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9669 times:



Quoting Anetter123 (Reply 19):
is this the next longest flight in the world or does TG's JFK-BKK still beat this one?

Nope.

EWR-SIN SQ 021 10,314
SIN-EWR SQ 022 9,755
SIN-LAX SQ 038 9.134
LAX-SIN SQ 037 8,771
JFK-BKK TG 791 8,659
BKK-JFK TG 790 8,659
DXB-GRU EK 261 8,260
LAX-BKK TG 795 8,260
IAD-JNB SA 208 8,133
DXB-IAH EK 211 8,164



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User currently offlineAM001 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 221 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9529 times:
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Has anyone taken this flight?

If offered a choice between EY's JFK - AUH and EK's IAH - DBX on J/C what would you choose?



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User currently offlineLH459 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 886 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9428 times:



Quoting Yellowtail (Reply 12):
I would say it is doing leaps and bounds better than GRU...

GRU is also performing very strongly, if consistently sold out flights are any indication!



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User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 24, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9260 times:



Quoting AznMadSci (Reply 20):

BOEING 777 DELIVERIES, LINE NOS. 600-799



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25 Pa747sp : What is KVS availability?
26 Post contains links FXramper : link
27 COflyerBOS : According to the Houston Business Journal on Friday, the EK service is now officially daily. The Ek representative says the success of the flight and
28 Pa747sp : Thanks for that. Where did you get the figure of 30 seats available in Y?
29 QantasHeavy : With BA getting LHR access now that BMD2 is done and the fact they run up to 3 x 777s per day into IAH you don't think they could put an A380 into IA
30 QantasHeavy : Why are the SIN-EWR/LAX routes different mileage -- is it a different routing for winds? If so then by that measure why is JFK-BKK the same both ways
31 AF022 : I would imagine F and C is O&D, but Y? How are they filling the back?
32 BoeingFever777 : Pretty sure BA only has 2x daily on their own metal. BA #2024 IAH-LGW BA #2036 IAH-LGW (no saturday service) Even when they move to LHR ops... It sta
33 102IAHexpress : Don't forget BA #202 IAH-DTW-LHR I think IAH was the only airport in the states that BA served from both LGW and LHR
34 EmiratesUK : Just checked the next 2 weeks of availability on both DXB-IAH & IAH-DXB F class is sold out almost every day, J class has some availability on some da
35 QantasHeavy : With Emirates' "ICE" system you can fly a return ULH flight and still have about a million hours of movies you did not get to see! Their IFE is reall
36 AznMadSci : Thanks for the insight! I will hopefully get to try ICE on my EK BKK-HKG flight next month! I would definitely like to try EK on IAH-DXB-MNL or IAH-D
37 Post contains images Ikramerica : Agreed. And I would wager that EK is going to convert some of those orders to the A380R when available. So the A388 may not make the trip, but will t
38 Flighty : Different classes really. But I agree, for the true "heavy hauling" missions, the 77L is unbeatable in terms of range/cargo. IAH-DXB is a showpiece f
39 Antonovman : Dont forget IAH is a huge cargo airport. I have been there umpteen time on the AN124 and 225 doing cargo flights. There is always cargo to be hauled
40 QantasHeavy : I give a lot of credit to EK in terms of opening new routes... they begin with a few flights per week, then go daily, then double daily. They know how
41 Ikramerica : yes, but there is no 787 or A350 proposed that will match it. it took 10 years from the launch of the 777 before such a plane could be made on the 77
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