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User currently offlinePa747sp From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 222 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2064 times:

According to the Syrian Air website -

http://www.syriaair.com/AboutSAA/Fleet.aspx

Syrian Air says 'Our fleet is comprised of the most modern and comfortable aircraft available'

which includes the Boeing 747SP and 727

which have 'The quietest cabins in the sky.'.

Both of these claims I think could be reasonably disputed.

Is this the most blatant misinformation by an airline on it's website, or are there worse cases out there?


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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2057 times:



Quoting Pa747sp (Thread starter):
which includes the Boeing 747SP and 727

Don't forget the Tu-134 they still have. Big grin


Most of the slogans are a bit over the top, just like Lufthansa and " there is no better way to fly". There are better ways to fly, depending on the needs. If WILCO737 is around now I have to hide.  duck  Big grin


User currently offlinePa747sp From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2040 times:



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 1):
Don't forget the Tu-134 they still have.

Strangely they don't mention that on their website. Maybe for them, claiming that a Tupolev is 'the most modern and comfortable aircraft' might be going a bit far.



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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2037 times:



Quoting Pa747sp (Reply 2):

I just see the TU-134 via Amadeusand but they still opereate them. They also use the YAK-40.  Smile


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24707 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2005 times:



Quoting Pa747sp (Thread starter):
Both of these claims I think could be reasonably disputed.

If you are so concerned why dont you dispute them in a Syrian court and see where that gets you.


Seriously, just about every business makes some claims that can be questionable. For instance here in LA we have a limousine company that uses "ontime, all the time" advertising, a plumbing service that uses "the freshest smelling plumber", while a grocery stores claims "as fresh as it can get"



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User currently offlineJetstar From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1636 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1941 times:
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Eastern Airlines calling their 727’s Whisperjets

User currently offlinePa747sp From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1907 times:



Quoting Jetstar (Reply 5):
Eastern Airlines calling their 727’s Whisperjets

True, though you would have to admit they are very quiet now....



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User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3802 posts, RR: 29
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1906 times:



Quoting Jetstar (Reply 5):
Eastern Airlines calling their 727’s Whisperjets

Difficult as some here may find it to believe, "Whisperjet" was not an exaggeration back in 1964 when the first 727s took to the air. Keep in mind, the noise levels emitted by 727s were being compared to 707s, 720s and DC-8s, many of which were powered by "straight-jet" non-fan engines, to say nothing of Convair 880s and the ear-splitting sound of their non-fan engines which happened to be the same as those used on the B-58, the first supersonic jet bomber to serve with the U.S. Air Force.


User currently offlinePa747sp From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1876 times:



Quoting Tango-Bravo (Reply 7):
Difficult as some here may find it to believe, "Whisperjet" was not an exaggeration back in 1964

True. My family lived on the approach to SYD Kingsford Smith airport in the early 70s, so I go used to the ear-bleeding sounds of the old 707s. In fact, when we moved to NZ I found it hard to sleep as it was so quiet!



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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1854 times:



Quoting Pa747sp (Thread starter):
Syrian Air says 'Our fleet is comprised of the most modern and comfortable aircraft available'

which includes the Boeing 747SP and 727

which have 'The quietest cabins in the sky.'.

Both of these claims I think could be reasonably disputed.

What they say is completely true. "Our fleet is the most modern and comfortable AVAILABLE". Since US has an embargo against Syria and they have no money to buy newer airframes from anyone else, what they have is all that AVAILABLE ......to them.


User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1845 times:



Quoting 474218 (Reply 9):

I have to correct you right here. They have a bunch of A320´s in their fleet which cover all European destinations.  Smile


User currently offlineAviateur From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1351 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1819 times:

It's SyrianAir.

But whatever. In any case, let's not do this. It's advertising, and these kinds of exaggerations are hardly unique to commercial airlines.


PS



Patrick Smith is an airline pilot, air travel columnist and author
User currently offlinePa747sp From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1802 times:



Quoting Aviateur (Reply 11):
But whatever. In any case, let's not do this. It's advertising, and these kinds of exaggerations are hardly unique to commercial airlines.

Well, I guess my point is that it isn't just advertising, it is making a claim about a product that is proveably wrong. For an airline to say that it provides something as vague as 'great service' is one thing. This is known as 'puffery' in the industry, and it is fairly well accepted that consumers understand this kind of thing. But to say your airline operates aircraft with the quietest cabin is to make a claim about the product that is testable, and therefore, in this case, deceptive.



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User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1681 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1785 times:

American says "We know why you fly." Does AA have stockers that follow their passengers around to see why they fly? I doubt it.

Ok, I had to make fun of it, I do like it though!



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User currently offlinePa747sp From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1773 times:



Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 13):
American says "We know why you fly."

Isn't AAdvantage the largest private database in the world? Maybe they do know why you fly, literally.



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User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7359 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1604 times:
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Not on a website, just in advertising from the 1970s to 1990s: "Manchester's our second home" by London Airways.

User currently offlineSK601 From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 976 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1579 times:

KLM: "the reliable airline"  laughing   laughing   laughing 


footnote: KLM is very reliable in terms of safety. They take safety VERY serious. I just don't think KL can justify reliability in terms of on-time performance and baggage handling. Year after year AMS is ranked as one of the worst performing airports regarding missing baggage and KL suffers a lot of (technical) delays, mainly in the Fokker fleet and because the B747/MD11s are scheduled so tight.


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