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YVR To Expand Again  
User currently offlineYVR1968 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 704 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3684 times:

Just read "The President's Corner" by Larry Berg, President and CEO of YVRAA, in the January 2008 SkyTalk newspaper online.

It mentions "The expansion of C-Pier will being in 2008."

Not much detail mentioned other than 5 new gates will be added in place for 2010.

This should bring the airport to 60 aerobridges. Who would have ever thought YVR would have 60 aerobridge equipped gates. When the additonal gates for the international terminal are added, will bring the total to 65.

Does anybody have any more details about this expansion? There is no further info on the YVR website.

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User currently offlineDYK From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3605 times:

It has been talked about for a long time. The international arrival hall has been expanded and renovated and new baggage carousels have been added. The YVRAA will renovate the international check in area. From what I understand the airline offices will be moved to the new link building? The International check-in counters will be pushed back 10 metres and resemble the new check in counters in the link building.


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User currently offlineConnector4you From Canada, joined May 2001, 933 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3335 times:



Quoting YVR1968 (Thread starter):
Who would have ever thought YVR would have 60 aerobridge equipped gates. When the additonal gates for the international terminal are added, will bring the total to 65.

To begin with, that saves a lot of buses, fuel and traffic on the air-side. Look no further than to other "big name airports" where commuters are on a foot race to board and deboard at least a couple of buses before rushing up on aircraft's stairs to take their seats. And once they're buckled-up and ready for takeoff the captain comes on the PA saying "sorry folks but we are told that the bus just went back to the terminal to pick up a few more late-boarding passengers". Out goes the airline's on time performance and passenger endurance!


User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3318 times:



Quoting YVR1968 (Thread starter):
Who would have ever thought YVR would have 60 aerobridge equipped gates

Well true, but what the airport has to do now is expand the US/Int'l arrival hall and have abut 50 more agents that are like tetra-lingual in order to make the process become less painful. Last thing I want to YVR customs to end up like LAX. They need an equivalent number of customs officer increase and a significant size increase at the international arrival lounge, almost as spacious as the ones at KIX or HKG.



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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4137 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3136 times:



Quoting Ktachiya (Reply 3):
Well true, but what the airport has to do now is expand the US/Int'l arrival hall and have abut 50 more agents that are like tetra-lingual in order to make the process become less painful.

YVR needs a separate line for trans-border arrivals from the U.S. It becomes almost crazy when a DL 738 captain gets on the intercom when touching down and saying; "Everyone needs to make an extra effort to get off the aircraft quickly and make way to the customs line! There is a 744 coming in from HKG with 400 people!" That can add to the time in the line for 100-150 people coming from SLC or ATL.

Quoting Ktachiya (Reply 3):
Last thing I want to YVR customs to end up like LAX.

I don't think YVR could ever get that bad!



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User currently offlineQB737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3060 times:



Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 4):
YVR needs a separate line for trans-border arrivals from the U.S.

They need to bring back the "Resident" line in the custom area, There is nothing more frustrating than waiting behind a group of people who don't have the proper paperwork to enter the country.

Ben


User currently offlinePnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2296 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3035 times:

This has been in their master plan for a while. They also had posted a while ago the further development options for expansion in the future beyond this. One of the options included extending the main terminal further east beyond the Fairmont Airport Hotel. BTW while it is expensive it is one of the nicest hotels around. Aslo if you have time to spend in the terminal the bar and restaurant up in the lobby is great.

User currently offlineMultimark From Canada, joined Jul 2006, 797 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2959 times:

I had heard that Canada Customs is going to a kiosk system that reads passports (at least for returning Canadians) that will flag travellers who need an in-person inspection. Everyone else will just go right through with a kiosk-generated slip. I don't know how far down the road that is though.

User currently offlineYVRSR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2878 times:

You can get information on the expansion project at the YVR website: www.yvr.ca.

The original expansion plan called for 9 additional international gates to be added in 2 phases: 4 gates first, then 5 gates. The 4 gate expansion was completed last year.


User currently offlineYLWbased From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 845 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2830 times:



Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 4):
I don't think YVR could ever get that bad!

i was twice stuck in line ups @ passport control in YVR for more than 2hrs....



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User currently offlineTransair737 From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2666 times:

The idea of a separate transborder customs line is great! Just a few years ago I was on a flight from PHX which was delayed about an hour just enough to put us behind a Cathay Pacific 744, a JAL 744 and China Airlines 744. The line was crazy almost 2 and 1/2 hours. Of course I missed the connection to YWG! When coming back to YVR now I always try for flights that will miss the big birds from Asia.

User currently offlineAA767LOVER From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2007, 609 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2645 times:

I came in on a flight from Sea-Tac, and it was a waste of time. Delayed by fog, delayed by customs, only had 12 hours in YVR, then I had to cross the border again the next morning, because I was doing Autumn moon festival celebration with my girlfriend's family, that's why i was in YVR. Then I flew YVR-PDX-NRT-HKG the next day.

A separate transborder customs will be great!



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User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2511 times:



Quoting Transair737 (Reply 10):
Of course I missed the connection to YWG! When coming back to YVR now I always try for flights that will miss the big birds from Asia

2.5 hours!!! That's crazy.

YVR needs to hire tons of more customs agents that speak either: Mandarin, Cantonese, Korean, or Japanese. Or that line is not going to move!!!

Quoting AA767LOVER (Reply 11):
A separate transborder customs will be great!

They should even consider seperate customs officers dedicated to each flight almost. Its just ridiculous because Cathay from HKG, Japan Airlines from Tokyo, Air Canada from: Hong Kong, Osaka Kansai, Tokyo Narita, Seoul all come in around the same time and for some reason, the YVR Airport Authority thinks that eight customs agents to take care of that is sufficient.

Half the carousels are closed even at peak times. They need to expand that area really really bad or soon, flying to SEA, and going on car through the border is going to get you to downtown Vancouver quicker than going through the airport.



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User currently offlineDYK From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2486 times:



Quoting Ktachiya (Reply 12):
2.5 hours!!! That's crazy.

YVR needs to hire tons of more customs agents that speak either: Mandarin, Cantonese, Korean, or Japanese. Or that line is not going to move!!!

I fly frequently into Vancouver, even arriving during the morning rush on most occasions. I do recall several years ago, 4 years ago to be exact where it took me about 2 hours to exit the customs hall. My experience since then has been about 45 minutes at most? I will arrive from Hong Kong on the 8th, I will be interesting to see how long it will take me.



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User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2475 times:



Quoting DYK (Reply 13):
My experience since then has been about 45 minutes at most?

Wow!!!! So fast. But wait a second, do you have permanent Canadian residency or are you eligible for the residents line? Those move rather fast. I remember on a summer day, I flew in on JL18 from Narita, arriving at around 10:30, but we were delayed at NRT because it was the first few weeks since the new runway was opened. So we docked into our gate around 11:15-30 and it took me about 2 hours to get out of the customs line. Next thing, I finally got out of customs and went to the carousel and it was no longer running because our flight had arrived way prior to that. It took me a while to find the luggage and I finally got home (in downtown Vancouver at that time) approximately 4 hours after our aircraft arrived at the gate.

It was strange, I arrived and home and got off the cab which was coincidentially near the hotel where the crew were staying and they were all touring around, changed!!! And I was flying on C class so I must have been one of the first couple dozen to go through the customs line on that flight.

Ever since then, I was cautious always to leave NRT on Mondays or Thursdays and arrive on JL12 to YVR. That allowed me sometimes to get out of customs in about 5 minutes.



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User currently offlineJawake From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 286 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2437 times:



Quoting YVR1968 (Thread starter):
This should bring the airport to 60 aerobridges. Who would have ever thought YVR would have 60 aerobridge equipped gates. When the additional gates for the international terminal are added, will bring the total to 65.

Just curious, how big is SEA compared to YVR? 65 gates does not sound like a lot to me. How does YVR compare to other North American Airports in size?

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 4):
YVR needs a separate line for trans-border arrivals from the U.S. It becomes almost crazy when a DL 738 captain gets on the intercom when touching down and saying; "Everyone needs to make an extra effort to get off the aircraft quickly and make way to the customs line! There is a 744 coming in from HKG with 400 people!" That can add to the time in the line for 100-150 people coming from SLC or ATL.

I have had a similar experience when flying UA into YVR. I think a separate line is a great idea!


User currently offlineJetboy319 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2299 times:



Quoting Jawake (Reply 15):
Just curious, how big is SEA compared to YVR?

Concourse A: 14 Jetways
Concourse B: 11 Jetways
Concourse C: 11 Jetways
Concourse D: 11 Jetways
N. Satellite: 12 Jetways
S. Satellite: 12 Jetways

Total Jetways: 71


User currently offlineZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1993 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2189 times:



Quoting Jawake (Reply 15):
I have had a similar experience when flying UA into YVR. I think a separate line is a great idea!

It would be a great idea every other country has a line for their own citizens (in Europe for EU nationals... the US, Australia (Kiwis too) etc..) But in Canada we need to stand in line with everyone else. Not that I am raciest or anything but when the Asian flights come in, alot of those passengers have a very difficult time talking with the custom officials, slowing down the line considerably. If YVR were to have say 1/3 of the lines open to Canadian (even MAYBE make it "North American" and have it 1/2 the size (similar to Australia with the Australian/Kiwi line) and have people move through rather quickly. A important thing to keep in mind, is for the most part North Americans would go through rather quickly because the need for all the paper would/language barrier is not quite there. All you would need for that line is French/English Border officials. In the other language is where you have the people who are fluent in multiple languages.

Who knows, I just (selfishly) think it is unfair to see all the other nationals get a fast line in their own country and we have to wait hours in ours. Oh, and if you were wondering, many times have I arrived just 10 minutes after a CX 747 a few AC flights etc... It sucks!



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26021 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2174 times:



Quoting YVR1968 (Thread starter):
Who would have ever thought YVR would have 60 aerobridge equipped gates. When the additonal gates for the international terminal are added, will bring the total to 65.

When the first phase of the current YVR terminal opened in 1968, if memory correct it had about 16 gates with bridges. However, in the new terminal's first year of operation YVR only handled 1.9 million passengers. The 1968 terminal was designed for 3.5 million. In 2006 YVR handled 16.9 million passengers and were expecting 17.5 million in 2007.


User currently offlineVisityyj From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2142 times:



Quoting Ktachiya (Reply 12):
YVR Airport Authority thinks that eight customs agents to take care of that is sufficient.

The Airport Authority does not decide how many customs agents will be on duty, the CBSA does. Do they listen to advice from YVRAA ? Yeah right, this is a government agency we're talking about.


User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2128 times:



Quote:
YVR needs a separate line for trans-border arrivals from the U.S. It becomes almost crazy when a DL 738 captain gets on the intercom when touching down and saying; "Everyone needs to make an extra effort to get off the aircraft quickly and make way to the customs line! There is a 744 coming in from HKG with 400 people!" That can add to the time in the line for 100-150 people coming from SLC or ATL.

I thought that Americans going into Canada (and Canadians coming into the U.S.) pre-cleared customs before the plane took off, thereby making it, in effect, a domestic flight...am I mistaken?



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26021 posts, RR: 22
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2079 times:



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 20):
I thought that Americans going into Canada (and Canadians coming into the U.S.) pre-cleared customs before the plane took off, thereby making it, in effect, a domestic flight...am I mistaken?

Eight Canadian airports have U.S. pre-clearance (YVR/YYC/YEG/YWG/YYZ/YOW/YUL/YHZ). Smaller airports with flights to the U.S. do not have pre-clearance and passengers on those flights clear on arrival.

There is no pre-clearance from the U.S. to Canada. All international passengers arriving in Canada have to clear Canadian immigration and customs, regardless where the flight originates.


User currently offlineReidYYZ From Kyrgyzstan, joined Sep 2005, 536 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1913 times:



Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 4):
"Everyone needs to make an extra effort to get off the aircraft quickly and make way to the customs line! There is a 744 coming in from HKG with 400 people!"

Oh, do not be mistaken. The Captain meant to say "Everyone needs to make an extra effort to get off the aircraft quickly and make way to the customs line! There is a 744 coming in from HKG with 400 people and I have to wait for the last one of you to get off before I do, and that would put me from being #1 at the crew/special services customs counter, to like #20, after the CX crew, soooooooo................move your ass."


User currently offlineMultimark From Canada, joined Jul 2006, 797 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1826 times:



Quoting ZBBYLW (Reply 17):
It would be a great idea every other country has a line for their own citizens (in Europe for EU nationals... the US, Australia (Kiwis too) etc..) But in Canada we need to stand in line with everyone else. Not that I am raciest or anything but when the Asian flights come in, alot of those passengers have a very difficult time talking with the custom officials, slowing down the line considerably. If YVR were to have say 1/3 of the lines open to Canadian...

I'm confused, there already is a separate line for Canadians in the YVR Customs hall  Confused


User currently offlineRobsawatsky From Canada, joined Dec 2003, 597 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1746 times:



Quoting Multimark (Reply 23):
I'm confused, there already is a separate line for Canadians in the YVR Customs hall

Not any time I've been through, although the capability exists.


User currently offlineVisityyj From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1738 times:



Quoting Multimark (Reply 23):
there already is a separate line for Canadians in the YVR Customs hall

Sometimes. The signs above each booth are in fact programmable displays and can be changed to/from "Residents". Which is what they seem to do whenever it gets busy  banghead  .


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