SkyTeamTriStar From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 334 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1888 times:
Does anyone have personal testimonies or other news worthy info how the airlines and/or PHX handled so many people for the Bowl Game.....any comments are welcomed.
AirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1876 times:
Nothing in the press negative about the operations at Sky Harbor and the other valley airports. North American flew a 757 into IWA and stayed overnight and right after the game it actually left early for JFK. Meanwhile I don't think I would want to be on this flight: Look at the departure time, especially after your team lost.
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UN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4286 posts, RR: 5 Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1749 times:
Delta 9734 PHX-ATL, a 777, an extra section for DL is expected to leave on time at 2pm.
Delta 9736 PHX-BOS, an extra section for DL left on-time at 10am on a 764.
DL will be flying 5 extra sections on PHX-JFK today.
9708 on a 738 left at 1:30am
9700 on a 738 left at 6:00am
9706 on a 738 left at 7:45am
9738 on a 767 left at 9:00am
9714 on a 757 will leave at 2:15pm.
Flyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1919 posts, RR: 11 Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1746 times:
At GEU (Glendale Airport), there has been an aircraft incident. I can't find any info on it. Anyone?
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AirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1652 times:
Does anyone know why there would be more charter flights after the Super Bowl than before? For example, before the game, UA had 1 A320 and 1 744 fly JFK-PHX. Today though, they have 1 A320, 1 744, and 2 763's. AA also has 2 757's to JFK today as opposed to 1 before the game. DL even has more planes to JFK today than came in last week.
Tom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 40 Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1638 times:
Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 5): Does anyone know why there would be more charter flights after the Super Bowl than before?
There may not be as big a difference as you think.....while everyone is pretty much in a hurry to get out after the game, the inbounds are more spread out. ie for the Sugar Bowl and BCS title game here MSY saw inbound fans charter into town for three or four days prior to the game, while the outbound charters started leaving within a couple hours of the end of the game, and were consistent into and through the next day.
Tom at MSY
"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
AirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1592 times:
Looks like the Giants are just getting ready to leave from the Valley of the Sun oops Rain.
04-Feb-2008 B763/J Phoenix Sky Harbor Intl (KPHX) Newark Liberty Intl (KEWR) 12:00PM MST 05:51PM EST Scheduled
AlexPorter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1503 times:
Quoting WA727 (Reply 7): incoming UA 744 to PHX. I believe it's taking fans back to EWR.
D'oh! Bad time to live in the East Valley (I missed its approach and of course it will depart west). But at least I saw the BA 744 yesterday, and I only manage to catch that one once a month.
Maverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 4744 posts, RR: 6 Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1296 times:
Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 9): I hope someone can take pictures in rain...
All I got was a crappy cell-phone pic two minutes before the rain started again
The new colors look great on it, not that you can tell from this pic!
Crjflyer35 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 667 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1286 times:
Quoting Flyinryan99 (Reply 4): At GEU (Glendale Airport), there has been an aircraft incident. I can't find any info on it. Anyone?
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Looks like a Baron with collapsed gear on landing, no other a/c involved, pilot was uninjured.....glad I'm taking time off before starting my commerical, this is my home airport.
Ok, wait for the RJ to pass, cleared to push tail south Mike, and you're cleared to spin #2 in the push.
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19719 posts, RR: 56 Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1226 times:
Scottsdale was running with some heavy delays today - 300+ minutes going in and out. I assume due to volume + weather.
-Mir
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Wn676 From Bosnia and Herzegovina, joined Jun 2005, 847 posts, RR: 4 Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1217 times:
Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 12): I have lived in PHX for 7 months and I NEVER saw one drop of rain! Weird to see such clouds there Big grin
RobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 890 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1120 times:
I flew on DL special section 9736 PHX-BOS on Monday, departed ontime at 10 AM. It was a B767-400, international version. There were at least 9 DL special section or charter flights on Monday. Here is something unusual... the Super Bowl program books, which had some fancy holographic cover, could not be placed in checked luggage, and had to be screened separately and apart like a laptop.
DL had just about every employee in PHX on duty that day. They all wore red tee shirts emblazoned with "Team PHX" and the date of "2/4/08".
There were literally hundreds of private jets spread around the various airports in the Valley... mostly related to the Super Bowl, but also due to PGA golf tournament in Scottsdale as well. Our DL jet took a 20 minute takeoff delay simply because of the private jets ahead of it.
There were weather issues in Denver and ORD/MDW that complicated departures to those hubs.
ArcrftLvr From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 782 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1079 times:
Quoting SkyTeamTriStar (Thread starter): Does anyone have personal testimonies or other news worthy info how the airlines and/or PHX handled so many people for the Bowl Game.....any comments are welcomed.
I was on WN #1832, departing at 10:10pm on Sunday.
For the most part, PHX ran well. I didn't have any issues with checking baggage. However, as I was approaching the D Gate Security, they were starting to close the gate as people were running to get into security. Why wouldn't they have extended the D Gate Security hours a little longer on Sunday? On any ordinary day, I understand why they close it at 9:30pm. But, with larger amounts of people, it would seem that they would extend the operating hours to ensure they are able to accommodate the larger quantities of people flying out on a Sunday night.
We pushed from the gate right on time, but then sat on the apron for almost an hour before we took off, due to the inordinate amounts of GA traffic taking off. My question is, do airlines push back on time, only to wait off the gate so that the on-time performance record isn't affected?
I shouldn't complain, though. I was only delayed an hour. There was a flight to ONT delayed until 1:30am and another flight to SLC delayed until 3:30am!! Thumbs up to WN for not cancelling these flights. I'm sure that would've only compounded the busy Monday that followed.
In general though, the City of Scottsdale was very very unprepared to handle this many people. Glad to see the City of Phoenix handled it relatively well with respect to the airport....
Rampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2855 posts, RR: 7 Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1064 times:
Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 10): The new colors look great on it, not that you can tell from this pic!
Awesome clouds. They came out better than your 747! I used to be a stormchaser in PHX. Only tornado we chased was in winter, interestingly enough.
Was it raining at the time of the game? What was the excuse for closing the dome? Pansies! The Green Bay game, now THAT was football weather.
RobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 890 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1040 times:
Quoting Rampart (Reply 17): Was it raining at the time of the game? What was the excuse for closing the dome? Pansies! The Green Bay game, now THAT was football weather.
No rain at the time of the game, at least as far as I could tell. The ground was dry after the game.
The F16 flyby could not be enjoyed from inside the domed stadium!
Maverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 4744 posts, RR: 6 Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1036 times:
Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 12): I have lived in PHX for 7 months and I NEVER saw one drop of rain!
Not only did it rain, there was some sleet around 10:30 AM. Yes, snow in PHX. In the daytime. Unbelievable!
Quoting ArcrftLvr (Reply 16): My question is, do airlines push back on time, only to wait off the gate so that the on-time performance record isn't affected?
No, as the DOT on-time rankings are based on A-14 (for that reason, actually). However, the pilot isn't getting paid until he's off the gate, so they'll rush things along too.
Quoting Rampart (Reply 17): Was it raining at the time of the game? What was the excuse for closing the dome?
It didn't start raining until about midnight or so. It was chilly, dreary, and windy.
Quoting Rampart (Reply 17): Awesome clouds. They came out better than your 747!
Watching the clouds roll in from the north was a spectacular sight. Fast moving and looking angry!
AlexPorter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1011 times:
A few notes and observations:
- Thank you for getting a pic of the 747, even if it is just a camera phone pic. But too bad nobody sent in any 777s - they are really the only Boeing series plane to never use PHX (707 - the ANG stratotankers, 717 - Midwest winter seasonal extra flight, 727 - FedEx and Champion come through a good amount, 737 - everywhere, 747 - BA, 757 - everywhere, 767 - Hawaiian and seasonal Delta) so that would have been nice to see.
- This winter is the rainest I've seen in my three winters here. Two winters ago was the drought that lasted from October through March, and quite frankly I didn't mind it. Last winter had a few showers here and there. But this winter has had a few days where it poured all day long, which makes my roof leak.
- I dropped some friends of at T3 at 9:15 Monday morning. T4 was backed up all the way into the main road. They really need to make more drop off lanes at that building. T3 on the other hand was a real pleasure to drop people off at. It's not too busy most of the time.
- There was frost on my car this morning.
- It is finally supposed to warm up later this week!
- And, as an aside, anyone who registered to vote between 1/1 and 1/7 (the deadline) at my Tempe polling place had to vote on a provisional ballot, because their system is clearly not working.
MPDPilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 935 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1001 times:
ArcrftLvr From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 782 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1001 times:
Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 20): they are really the only Boeing series plane to never use PHX
BA swapped the 744 with a 777 for a couple of years. Then they went back to the 744...
Maverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 4744 posts, RR: 6 Reply 23, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 876 times:
Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 20): This winter is the rainest I've seen in my three winters here. Two winters ago was the drought that lasted from October through March, and quite frankly I didn't mind it. Last winter had a few showers here and there. But this winter has had a few days where it poured all day long, which makes my roof leak.
This year is nothing compared to 04/05's winter. The Salt River actually looked like a normal river.... and remember I'm originally from New York so that's saying something. They deflated the dams at Tempe Town Lake and the water level stayed the same.