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What's The Best Airline To Europe?  
User currently offlineAir Taiwan From Australia, joined Dec 1999, 1516 posts, RR: 4
Posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1471 times:

I'll planning a trip to Europe and can anyone tell me what's the best airline to travel from Australia (BNE) in terms of
service,
aircraft,
PTVs or not,
ffp miles,
food, etc.

Exclude SQ, TG and MH for the time being, I want to try something new... (NG perhaps....)  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Thanks very much!


Best Regards




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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13711 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1405 times:

Oh dear, you're excluding the best airline in the world. Oh well, I suppose you'll change yer mind after you come back on the other airline whatever yo ufly with. I would reccommend...

What class?


Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
User currently offlineAir Taiwan From Australia, joined Dec 1999, 1516 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1393 times:

I'll be travelling in Economy Class... (obviously for a student like me...)
I know SQ and MH and CX and TG are good but I just want to try something different. If they are good, I'm in luck, if they're not, I'd be more "appreciative" next time I'm on SQ/CX/MH etc...


(Some people told me terrible stories about services at LH, but I still want to try it)

But safety is something I wouldn't bet on (ie forget KE...)

User currently offlineAndrew From Singapore, joined Dec 1999, 369 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1387 times:

Why don't you give Virgin Atlantic a try? I haven't tried them, but they certaily sound good.



regards,

Andrew

User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1385 times:

Although I understand your concern with KE, their service is apparently second to none.

In terms of FF mileage-I would forget it, none of the airlines like awarding points/miles to Economy class travellers unless the'yre flying on full-fare tickets.

In terms of service

-SR I have flown once (to Buenos Aires)-extremely good. I'm not sure what they fly to SIN on though. MD-11's may not have the PTV's in Y.

-BA service generally very good, sometimes let down by rude attendants. PTV's more or less guaranteed-744 from SIN. The food will be good, as Asian routes have spicy choices.

-QF never flown them-it's another option though. 744

-NG never flown-high reputation though. If you connect via BKK, I think 777 to EU.

I'm sure there are others, maybe the rest will be able to give you first-hand advice.



User currently offlineAirbus A3XX From Australia, joined May 1999, 507 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1369 times:

I think CX and Sq does five FFP points for passengers travelling on some discounted tickets.

User currently offlineLewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3448 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1369 times:

Why dont you give a try at olympic airways? they have ptvs in economy too and the service is quite good.

User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1361 times:

I'd choose Virgin Atlantic between London & Hong Kong* and Ansett Austrailia between Hong Kong and the land of oz.

*i think it's Hong Kong that the conections are at.

You can book the 2 flights in one go at virgin's website.

User currently offlineDutchWings From Netherlands, joined Jan 2001, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1354 times:

KLM of course....

User currently offlineKLM747 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2001, 669 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1339 times:

Yeh, Virgin Atlantic would be a good airline to fly to Europe, KLM is good too.  Big thumbs up

KLM747 Big grin

User currently offlineMac100 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1325 times:

Fly on BA, they'll treat you well, LH is fine too, but they have no PTVs if that's important to you

User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 38
Reply 11, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1319 times:


LH give you miles on every paid ticket, regardless of how discounted the ticket is.
From BNE you´d have to take a TG/SQ flight with LH flight number to BKK or SIN, there connect onto a "real" LH flight.
I like their service, perhaps BECAUSE of lack of PTVs.

Daniel Smile

P.S:: where in Europe you want to go?

User currently offlinePhileo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1320 times:

Since you are local in BNE, you should know what are the options you have. Basicall you still need to stick to MH, SQ and TG before you could get the real European airliners to go to Europe. CX would be good if u stick to Oneworld and SQ and TG would be good if you stick to Star. MH/KLM would be a good choice if u r in WorldPerks (miles never expires, joins for free online) and right now all the MH flight in Australia carried KLM code. QF and BA combination would be the most expensive options in Perth if you go to LHR or Europe. Anyway, most of my friends studies in UK always have bad experienced with BA and switch to other carrier after that. So, it wasn't really recommendable. Does KE fly to BNE, maybe you could take this opportunity to try KE and AF. Anyway, if I'm you, I'll take the cheapest ticket with the best connection and the nicest aircraft and airport. If you talked about airport, KLIA and CLK would be the best.

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 8792 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1302 times:

I like KLM, Lufthansa as well as Cathay Pacific.

User currently offlineGibberish From Switzerland, joined Sep 2000, 424 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1299 times:

A combination of Swissair and Cathay Pacific! Collect Qualiflyer Miles on both segments and enjoy the best service of Asia and Europe on the same trip.

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13711 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1299 times:

Thepoor dear's travelling from OZ! How can he pick a VS flight???????????????


Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
User currently offlineAlle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1293 times:

You can fly QF and AY, connecting in Singapore or Bangkok, from Helsinki, you could fly to any european city on AY or BA. Then about service, Finnair doesn't have PTVs in economy  Pissed , and the Economy Class is pretty cramped and uncomfortable, the last time i've flown a scheduled long haul flight on AY was in 1997, and i've heard they have a new economy class without PTVs, but
the new economy class is only in the middle section of the aircraft, for some reason they haven't changed the rear section of their aircraft. Maybe they change them when the aircrafts go through the D-mainteance check (OH-LGA is currently in the D-mainteance check and will get the new paint scheme).

Regards
Alexander Holst
Helsinki, Finland
ICQ 94604005

User currently offlineAvion From Bouvet Island, joined May 1999, 2205 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1289 times:

Airsicknessbag:

I guess you have never experienced a flight with a PTV?


Tom

User currently offlineMAC100 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1280 times:

The usefulness of PTVs depends on the airline, it's not always a minus. BA has a lot of choices (movies other programs) most of them free, AA and UA are OK, nothing great though and SR is pobably the most lousy one, where you watch one of two movies on a postcard sized display and most other choices cost you $$s (or euros).

User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3219 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1268 times:

I would say BA or SQ. Also, for the service, try Emirates if you don't mind connecting at Dubai.


I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
User currently offlineVirginLover From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 958 posts, RR: 16
Reply 20, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1262 times:

I don't have this screen name just so people can laugh at me! Big grin Go take VS... and I'll be insanely jealous. PTV's great (they just added more movies and more games), Service great, food decent (actually, i'm a picky eater and I ate the most airline food on VS) Have fun and fly Virgin!

User currently offlineAirbusDriver From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 255 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1260 times:

if you want comfort and good looking stewardess  Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile and new planes go for AirFrance

User currently offlineAirnewzealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2538 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1249 times:

I can't believe that no one has said AirNZ!!!!

Why not take AN to Sydney and then AirNZ to LAX and the LH to FRA. Much better. then you get a real experience of the three airlines in the top 20 in the world.

Service..... Simply superb!! Food is great, flight attendants very friendly!!

PTV's..... Are getting installed now and will be placed on the SYD-LAX v.v flight first due to how long it is.
If you are flyin in July then you will get them.

Luthansa is also meant to be very good. But remember PTV's are not everything.

Remeber AirNZ offer the best seatpitch in the skies, with a wooping 34"!!!! oh my god!!!!

If you donot want to do so many connections thenm i recommened Korean Air.

State of the art Airport opening in March. The newest in the world!! Woohooo!

Very good service!! I can tell you that, planes very nice and on almost every flight you take wth them you will have a Western pilot.

PTV's are out on Flights now!! So you will get the PTV. I bet once you fly Korean Air you will want to keep flyin them. The FA's also speak very good enghlish compared to most other Asian Carriers.

I recommened AirNZ, Ansett, Luthansa or Korean Air.

Remember Korean Air has not had an Incident since 1997/8.

Cheers
mikey
 Smile Smile Smile Smile SmileAirNZ: The worlds warmest welcome!! Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile

PS Tell us your decision.



User currently offlineVadheim From Norway, joined Jul 2000, 618 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1242 times:

Try SAS (SK) from Singapore or Bangkok to Copenhagen (voted best aiport in the world 2000). In Copenhagen you will have a smooth and enjoyable transfer to whereever your final destination is.


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User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 38
Reply 24, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1232 times:


Tom,

I actually did (UA 777), tried it out some time and became bored with it very quickly...

Daniel Smile

25 Air Taiwan: Thank you all for the suggestions. Tell you what, I want to fly ALL of them (well that's why I asked you guys...), you know, imagine flying with EK (w
26 Post contains images Luxair: KLM forever
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