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AC YYZ-SYD-YYZ & Other Non-Rev's To SYD  
User currently offlineIrregKing From Germany, joined Feb 2008, 145 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3627 times:

Guys, please no bashing if this has been discussed before... (I just joined a.net)

I am desperately trying to get to SYD on a standby/staff ticket end of February for Mardi Gras.

Normally, as I always did for the last 7 yrs, I get on a flight to NRT and then continue with JL or QF to SYD.
But I got really tired of that route and want to try something new.
QF or BA from LHR or FRA is almost impossible... always full or plenty of own-airline-employees who have priority ahead of you.
I thought about going to BKK and then continue with BA/EK/QF/TG to SYD (almost 7 flights daily)
but end of Feb those flights are pretty much full and I just recieved a message from a co-worker who got stuck in BKK for 2 days and didn't make it on any of those flights... mostly because they were full. He bought an Air Asia ticket to KUL and finally made it on a MH flight from there.

UA/QF from LAX/SFO is also an option but hey... I don't really like UA or the hassle of US-immigration.

Now my question is:

AC YYZ-YVR-SYD and return....

The thought of the new 777LR and the nice XM-cabin attract me a lot.
But I heard there is a non-rev embargo on that flight cause of payload restrictions.
Calling AC they didn't know anything about it nor did AC give out an offcial non-rev-embrago warning for that flight.

So.. is it true? No non-revs allowed on AC 033 / 034 ??

Maybe someone from AC in YYZ or YVR can give insight on this?

And if anyone has other ideas about which route to SYD has (at least most of the time) good chances to get on, then please don't hesitate to holler!!


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24786 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3556 times:



Quoting IrregKing (Thread starter):
So.. is it true? No non-revs allowed on AC 033 / 034 ??

Not true as far as I can tell. Can't see any restrictions in the AC employee travel website. They did have a capacity restriction for the first couple of months when they were using the 777-300ER. They restricted the southbound load ex-YVR to 270 seats (the seating capacity of the -200LR) and 315 seats northbound instead of the 349 seats on the -300ER due to weight restrictions, but since they switched to the 777-200LR last week I don't think there are any restrictions. Perhaps an AC employee at YVR or YYZ can confirm.


User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4910 posts, RR: 43
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3552 times:

There never were embargoes against non-revs on 33/34, there were however load restrictions. Namely if the load agent decided the maximum number of people to carry, then it would be filled to that capacity with revenue or non revenue passengers. This occurred when the B777-300 was flying the route.

Now that the B777-200 is flying the route, there are no load restrictions, and should be filled to capacity at 42J 228Y.

That being said however, it is a VERY busy route for both revenue and non-rev passengers and hard to get on at the best of times. I just picked a few dates at random and saw almost full rev loads with over 50 non-revs listed!

And ... so you know, 33/34 is routed YYZ-YVR-SYD-YVR-YYZ. If you were to try it, it would be best to try from YVR and not from YYZ.



Never gonna grow up, never gonna slow down .... Barefoot Blue Jean Night
User currently offlineDiesel33 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3488 times:



Quoting IrregKing (Thread starter):
Normally, as I always did for the last 7 yrs, I get on a flight to NRT and then continue with JL or QF to SYD.
But I got really tired of that route and want to try something new.

If you can get on, just do it...


User currently offlinePnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2225 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3304 times:

I had heard the flight was proving to be a real money maker and AC was extremely happy. This would seem to support that.

User currently offlineKdonohue From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3296 times:

My in-laws flew on this flight last week and the check-in agent said there was only one Economy and one Executive class seat showing. Being the only non-stop to SYD north of SFO, I can see how this flight will be attractive for a lot of people.

K.


User currently offlineEasyfriday2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3173 times:

I flew to syd via yyz when it was the 300 . It was a beautiful plane and i didnt have any problems. There are a lot of non revs listed pretty much every time. But at least now that it is the 200 it wont have as many problems with the restrictions. Best of luck  Smile

User currently offlineAA7295 From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 620 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3128 times:



Quoting IrregKing (Thread starter):
UA/QF from LAX/SFO is also an option but hey... I don't really like UA or the hassle of US-immigration.

If you are desperate, you have to have face it. Come on UA, is not that bad. US immigration on the other hand, not good at times, but nowhere near as rude as SYD immigration. Just wait and see.


User currently offlineIrregKing From Germany, joined Feb 2008, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3080 times:

I never had problems at aussie immigration to be honest... yes they were always very indifferent and unconcerned but I can deal with that.
Only US immigration officers always seemed to have something against me....
and uh-uh you won't get me on a UA-longhaul anymore... everyone has his share of opinions/experiences.
I have made mine and I'm done with them. I don't mind flying them within North America but not trans-pacific/-atlantic...

Well thanks guys for the info. I will just have to trust the few who said that it's possible to fly AC 033.
I will do AMS-YVR on KL (finally no more MD11 on that route) and then
YVR-SYD on a beautiful new AC 772LR  goodvibes 

will let y'all know how it went!



Worked on: A300,310,319,320,321,332,333,342,343,346,380,B732/3/4/5,744,DC10 -- Currently working on: A380 only
User currently offlineSK973 From Sweden, joined Mar 2004, 327 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3042 times:

If you want to try a different route than the obvious ones it would be to go down to JNB with LX, LH, VS, SA or BA and then from there with QF to SYD.

User currently offlineB6MoneyGuyJFK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2997 times:



Quoting IrregKing (Thread starter):
am desperately trying to get to SYD on a standby/staff ticket end of February for Mardi Gras.

But during this time, ist it fairly difficult to get there period? IMHO if you've been doing it for 7 years and it works out the way you've been doing it.. stick with it!



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User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2990 times:



Quoting IrregKing (Thread starter):

UA/QF from LAX/SFO is also an option but hey... I don't really like UA or the hassle of US-immigration.

Beggers can't be choosers, however in saying that, UA's flight are usually chocker on the SYD run and if there are any stand by seats available for staff, your going to be well down the seniority list.

All I can say is...Good Luck!


User currently offlineEta unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2072 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2754 times:

A word of warning: headwinds. The flight might show wide open, but if the weather is not in your favor you will not be put on. February and November are notorious for this... without doubt, stick with via NRT.

Ah Australian immigration... the only time in over 30 years of travelling I ever called an Immigration officer an a**hole (I have the right kind of citizenship that enabled me to do it) after some power crazed jerk in SYD tried to give me attitude when he was at fault- then my wife called him a stupid idiot to his face afterwards!


User currently offlineLaxAgent From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2725 times:

Be WARNED!!! its actually YYZ-YVR-SYD-YVR-YYZ

Its easy to get on YYZ-YVR-YYZ SECTOR

Ive been tracking this flight for the past month and believe me, most of the time NON-REV dont make it on the YVR-SYD portion. so be cautious.



LAX
User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4910 posts, RR: 43
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2615 times:



Quoting LaxAgent (Reply 13):
Its easy to get on YYZ-YVR-YYZ SECTOR

There used to be an old Air Canada rule that non-revs already on the aircraft from an up-line station have priority over the local station. In other words, non-revs from YYZ on the YYZ-YVR-SYD route have priority over any boarding in YVR, regardless of the priority of the YVR passengers. Is this no longer the case?



Never gonna grow up, never gonna slow down .... Barefoot Blue Jean Night
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