Airbus1 From United Arab Emirates, joined Feb 2001, 88 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4380 times:
I was rather surprised to leanr that EK will use a dedicated A380 cabin crew.
Currently all EK crew are trained to operate the whole fleet of 777s and 330s/340s.
But EK is now taking applications for dedicated A380 crews; those selected must stay with the A380 for at least 24 months. In that time they will lose their certification of the remainder of the fleet so when, and if, they rejoin the main fleet they will undergo a new safety training and certification.
Interesting choice for exisiting crew to make - apply to crew the new flagship - but know that the number of destinations will be very limited for the first 18 months until the fleet builds up in numbers.
Are the safety aspects of the A380 so different to require a dedicated crew of are there other reasons?
SQ325 From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 1437 posts, RR: 8 Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4282 times:
Not an EK expert but with an opinion!
I think it is just the fact that with the introduction of the A380 the EK FAs must be familiar with B777 A330/340 + the A380 that is simply to much especially during the first year, there will be a lot of procedure changes for the FAs because of the gained experience.
In addition with the double decker layout there are some more safety procedures to be learned and handled by the FAs!
Cabin fire procedure, evacuation just to name two.
I believe the A380 is challenging the FAs more than the pilots. I wonder if they will fly with 2 leading FAs or keep one.
Smi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1380 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3611 times:
EK isn’t the only airline doing this Qantas is also however I think they are doing it for cost cutting rather than safety. The vast majority of A380 FA will be new hire ones under a different company (Qantas Cabin Crew Australia I think), with some current mainline crew still working on the flight to meet union quotas, not sure if the CSM or CSS positions will remain with mainline though. The new hires will also work on the current fleet international feet. So a hell a lot for them to remember! 767-300ER/RR A330-200/300 747-300/400/400ER (although not many differences on the ER I believe there still are a few different equipment locations) and A380 plus soon to be 787!! I have herd round the traps that Qantas was talking with the unions and CASA regarding the limit of the number of aircraft crews can be certified on don’t know what came out of it though.
Are other A380 operators doing a similar thing at all? I would imagine it would be a good opportunity for cost cutting??
Smi
Fly2CHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3005 times:
As far as I am aware, cabin crew are only allowed to operate on three aircraft families at any one time (with the A330 and A340 considered as one). Therefore it would probably not be a regulatory requirement as they would be able to do B777s, A330/340, and A380 all under one license.
A380US From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2358 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2642 times:
Quoting Airbus1 (Reply 2): Still one purser - but three SFS - rather than the standard two.
can you please explaine what a SFS is?
Quoting Fly2CHC (Reply 6): As far as I am aware, cabin crew are only allowed to operate on three aircraft families at any one time (with the A330 and A340 considered as one)
Airbus1 From United Arab Emirates, joined Feb 2001, 88 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2624 times:
SFS are senior flight supervisors - I believe the EK heirarchy onboard is Purser, SFS, First Class (FG1), Business Class (S1) and Economy (S2). The titles may not be quite right!
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