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Jetblue Appoints Swiss Int'l Air CEO To BoD  
User currently offlineB6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 816 posts, RR: 11
Posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3720 times:

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NEW YORK, Feb. 8, 2008 (PRIME NEWSWIRE) -- JetBlue Airways Corporation (NasdaqGS:JBLU - News) announced that Christoph Franz, CEO of Swiss International Air Lines Ltd, has been appointed to its Board of Directors effective immediately. Dr. Franz represents the Deutsche Lufthansa Group, whose $300 million investment in JetBlue was recently completed.

~B6FA4ever

[Edited 2008-02-08 12:15:47]

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User currently offlinePtugarin From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3435 times:

This is to prove wrong all those a.nutters who said that LH just wanted to make an investment but will not affect B6 operations. From the beginning I did not believe that LH would gamble on stock. I wonder what other changes will come to jetBlue?

User currently offlineCX288 From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3421 times:



Quoting B6FA4ever (Thread starter):
JetBlue Airways Corporation (NasdaqGS:JBLU - News) announced that Christoph Franz, CEO of Swiss International Air Lines Ltd, has been appointed to its Board of Directors effective immediately. Dr. Franz represents the Deutsche Lufthansa Group, whose $300 million investment in JetBlue was recently completed.

It had always been communicated that DLH will get a seat on the JetBlue board which, I suppose, it totally in line with their substantial investment.

The choice of Dr. Franz, however, comes as a little surprise to me though. On the other hand, SWISS has transformed itself as much into a low-cost operator as it is possible while continuing to offer a premium product (they were the first to introduce a one-way all-inclusive pricing structure). In addition, Franz has been rumoured as the most likely successor to Mayrhuber, so this board membership is yet another strategic initiatives entrusted to him.


User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7057 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3401 times:



Quoting Ptugarin (Reply 1):
This is to prove wrong all those a.nutters who said that LH just wanted to make an investment but will not affect B6 operations. From the beginning I did not believe that LH would gamble on stock. I wonder what other changes will come to jetBlue?

Me neither, maybe Jetblue will start transatlantic flights soon, LHR comes to my mind.
Who is willing to bet on A330s in B6 livery in two years ?



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User currently offlinePtugarin From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3384 times:



Quoting Columba (Reply 3):
Me neither, maybe Jetblue will start transatlantic flights soon, LHR comes to my mind.

I doubt B6 will do intercons with their own metal. However, I do expect better interlining with LX and LH (maybe even code-sharing) via JFK and BOS.
Also, I wonder what will happen to B6's alliances with other carriers (such as EI). LH cannot be enjoying it.


User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7057 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3367 times:



Quoting Ptugarin (Reply 4):

I doubt B6 will do intercons with their own metal.

B6 would offer cheaper costs as LH and open new markets for LH. Also B6 could be used against AB as AB also flies to JFK from DUS and maybe later from BER and offer very low fares.
LH could fight AB on longhaul "low cost" flights using B6 without ruining their own brand and their reputation with business class travelers.



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User currently offlinePtugarin From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3251 times:



Quoting Columba (Reply 5):
LH could fight AB on longhaul "low cost" flights using B6 without ruining their own brand and their reputation with business class travelers.

I agree with everything you say except, replate B6 with LX. Although, this is just my opinion, there's no reason for B6 to become a player across the pond (from LH point of view), when they can convert LX into their low cost long-haul division. Last thing LH wants is to saturate the market by having three carriers run in parallel.


User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3427 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3225 times:

Quoting Ptugarin (Reply 6):
I agree with everything you say except, replate B6 with LX. Although, this is just my opinion, there's no reason for B6 to become a player across the pond (from LH point of view), when they can convert LX into their low cost long-haul division. Last thing LH wants is to saturate the market by having three carriers run in parallel.

Pardon?

Converting LX into a "low cost" airline would be about the worst mistake LH could possibly make. LX would lose a huge percentage of their customers and frequent fliers. LX is still a top-notch premium airline (especially in C and F class) and that's how their customers see them. Ruin this and you ruin LX as a whole.

Edit: Remember when LX introduced a Buy-on-board service in European Y class? The reactions were so ba dthat they scrapped it a few weeks later and went back to free on board service. This just proves my point.

[Edited 2008-02-09 10:39:22]

User currently offlineAvek00 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4336 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3214 times:



Quoting Ptugarin (Reply 1):
This is to prove wrong all those a.nutters who said that LH just wanted to make an investment but will not affect B6 operations

Actually, this does no such thing, as the BOD is not involved in the day-to-day operation or management of the business.



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User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5566 posts, RR: 36
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3177 times:



Quoting Ptugarin (Reply 1):
This is to prove wrong all those a.nutters who said that LH just wanted to make an investment but will not affect B6 operations. From the beginning I did not believe that LH would gamble on stock

For me this was clear from the beginning. When you only want to invest money you for sure don't do it with airlines but with more reliable companies. The airlines business is too unstable.

Quoting Ptugarin (Reply 6):
when they can convert LX into their low cost long-haul division

LX won't be converted into a low cost long-haul division. On the contrary: with the new A 333 they again have first class on all long-haul aircrafts. The LX targets are clear in the premium market segments.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21504 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3177 times:



Quoting Columba (Reply 3):
Who is willing to bet on A330s in B6 livery in two years ?

Not me. 787s or 350s, that's another story.  Smile

Quoting Ptugarin (Reply 4):
Also, I wonder what will happen to B6's alliances with other carriers (such as EI). LH cannot be enjoying it.

As far as I know, B6 has alliances with only two carriers. One is Cape Air, and I can't imagine LH getting too upset about that. Since EI is the only meaningful one after that, I don't think LH is going to have a problem with it.

-Mir



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User currently offlinePtugarin From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3095 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 10):
As far as I know, B6 has alliances with only two carriers

Didn´t they have some kind of deal with VV? I imagine LH wouldn't like this one; why would they want someone to take KBP - JFK - SFO instead of KBP - FRA -SFO, in addition to some India traffic that can get siphoned off to VV. The numbers are not big, but having control over B6 business, LH shouldn't be overlooking such things.

Little off topic, but IMHO, B6 did a poor job marketing their alliances, I can't even easily find the info on their web site (with exception of Cape Air).


User currently offlineSKYYBLUE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3011 times:



Quoting Ptugarin (Reply 11):
Didn´t they have some kind of deal with VV? I imagine LH wouldn't like this one; why would they want someone to take KBP - JFK - SFO instead of KBP - FRA -SFO, in addition to some India traffic that can get siphoned off to VV

Cape Air was the first alliance and is just approaching its first birthday. JetBlue never had any "alliance" with VV.

Quoting Ptugarin (Reply 11):
Little off topic, but IMHO, B6 did a poor job marketing their alliances, I can't even easily find the info on their web site (with exception of Cape Air).

How so? The Cape Air alliance is deemed successful, and JetBlue only recently announced the Aer Lingus alliance set to start later this year.


User currently offlineB6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 816 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2986 times:



Quoting SKYYBLUE (Reply 12):
Quoting Ptugarin (Reply 11):
Little off topic, but IMHO, B6 did a poor job marketing their alliances, I can't even easily find the info on their web site (with exception of Cape Air).

How so? The Cape Air alliance is deemed successful, and JetBlue only recently announced the Aer Lingus alliance set to start later this year.

the Jetblue/Aer Lingus partnership goes into effect April 3rd.

PressRelease

Quoting Avek00 (Reply 8):
Quoting Ptugarin (Reply 1):
This is to prove wrong all those a.nutters who said that LH just wanted to make an investment but will not affect B6 operations

Actually, this does no such thing, as the BOD is not involved in the day-to-day operation or management of the business.

ok...stupid question here... what exactly does a BoD do? seriously having a brain fart day!  boggled 


User currently offlineAvek00 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4336 posts, RR: 19
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2954 times:



Quoting B6FA4ever (Reply 13):

The BOD of a large public company like jetBlue normally serves three main purposes:

1. To appoint and remove the officers of the corporation;

2. To exercise oversight functions over the management of the corporation by its officers and senior executives;

3. To ratify significant corporate events (e.g., liquidation, merger proposal, filing for bankruptcy).



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User currently offlineIcebird757 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 662 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2862 times:



Quoting Columba (Reply 3):
Me neither, maybe Jetblue will start transatlantic flights soon, LHR comes to my mind.
Who is willing to bet on A330s in B6 livery in two years ?

Barger said that B6 is currently not looking at flying overseas to Europe, and not looking at A330s, 767 or 787s but never say never.

Here are a few other things he has mentioned lately:

1. Dave Barger said that they are working towards commercial agreement with Lufthansa. LH has mentioned that they would like to possibly have 24.9% voting shares and 49% ownership shares.

2. The E190s will be coming out west this spring(maybe late April/early May) and management is looking at what cities they will serve. In the last 6 months, the E190 has started making money for them now.

3. The new terminal at JFK is on budget on might just open earlier than planned, maybe the Sept/Oct time frame.

4. Look for more international expansion in 2008 whether it's new cities or connecting current cities in US to their international cities. Probably Caribbean.

5. Management is looking at possibly growing Stewart Airport now that the Port Authority took over the airport.

6. There are going to be realestate announcements in the near future about both MCO and FLL. More growth in BOS and IAD possibly also.

7. There will be some billboard advertising as you come accross the border into canada towards Toronto, Montreal, Hamilton, Misasagua(spelling?)

8. Management is not happy about Allegiant flying Plattsburgh to FLL. Could be something coming there?

9. Barger said don't read into it but Star Alliance only has 1% market share in the caribbean which is where B6 is expanding. No talk of joining Star Alliance at this time.

10. Jetblue will be selling 6 A320s this year. Sale commitments are 3 in 2nd quarter, 1 in 3rd quarter, and 2 in 4th quarter. Additional sales may be announced in the future. 16 A320s are defered from2010/2011 to 2012/2013. 3 E190 options were excersized for 2009 delivery. There will be 12 A320s and 6 E190s delivered this year. Year end fleet should be 110 A320s and 36 E190s but this could change if additional sales opportunities arrive.



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User currently offlineA380US From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2821 times:



Quoting Icebird757 (Reply 15):
5. Management is looking at possibly growing Stewart Airport now that the Port Authority took over the airport.

Wow maybe a mini-hub?



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User currently offlinePtugarin From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2671 times:



Quoting Icebird757 (Reply 15):
8. Management is not happy about Allegiant flying Plattsburgh to FLL. Could be something coming there?

My guess is B6 would like to cater to Canadian market via BTV, (I am guessing BTV - FLL in the future along with other Florida destinations) but Allegiant at Plattsburgh being a bit closer to Montreal is hindering their plans.
I have no data, but does anyone know how BTV -MCO is performing?


User currently offlinePtugarin From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2669 times:

I am also wondering if LH could use its position in Star Alliance could somehow get B6 into Canada (whose flag carrier is also in the alliance)?

User currently offlineClipper136 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 316 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2649 times:



Quoting Ptugarin (Reply 17):
does anyone know how BTV -MCO is performing?

Don't have figures, but it must be doing OK.

It was just upgraded from seasonal to year round service.

http://investor.jetblue.com/phoenix....-newsArticle&ID=1104806&highlight=


User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1988 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2539 times:



Quoting Ptugarin (Reply 17):
My guess is B6 would like to cater to Canadian market via BTV, (I am guessing BTV - FLL in the future along with other Florida destinations) but Allegiant at Plattsburgh being a bit closer to Montreal is hindering their plans.
I have no data, but does anyone know how BTV -MCO is performing?

Cape Air has started flying from Boston to Plattsbugh and Saranac Lake so I think we could expect a codeshare on that route. The only question is would people from Montreal/Plattsburgh want to fly a small Cessna to BOS and then a B6 A320 or fly whatever Allegiant flies straight into FLL?



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User currently offlinePtugarin From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2443 times:



Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 20):
Cape Air has started flying from Boston to Plattsbugh

Good point, however, I don't think anyone in their sane mind (not counting aviation enthusiasts because our sanity is questionable  Smile ) would consider this option to connect with B6. If they like jetBlue so much, they will rather drive extra 40 miles and fly out of BTV.


User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1988 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2388 times:



Quoting Ptugarin (Reply 21):
If they like jetBlue so much, they will rather drive extra 40 miles and fly out of BTV.

You mean customers from Plattsburgh, or Montreal? People in Plattsburgh have Lake Champlain in the way and the ferries add to the trip making Cape Air a better alternative.

Quoting Icebird757 (Reply 15):
1. Dave Barger said that they are working towards commercial agreement with Lufthansa. LH has mentioned that they would like to possibly have 24.9% voting shares and 49% ownership shares.

I thought it was illegal for them to have more than 20% ownership shares because they aren't American.

Quoting Ptugarin (Reply 4):
I doubt B6 will do intercons with their own metal. However, I do expect better interlining with LX and LH (maybe even code-sharing) via JFK and BOS.

LH has all of America covered with the cities they already serve and the holes are well filled by US and UA. With LX though it is different as they serve only BOS, EWR, JFK, LAX, MIA, and ORD. AP is supposed to be expanding across the pond. Do you think they will do anything with B6?

Also, I wonder what will happen to B6's alliances with other carriers (such as EI). LH cannot be enjoying it.

LH doesn't care about Cape Air although it may feed some passengers onto their planes in BOS.
EI doesn't really compete much with LH. I doubt that there are too many pax flying three flights to get to Germany.



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User currently offlinePtugarin From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2357 times:



Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 22):

You mean customers from Plattsburgh, or Montreal

Sorry, I meant Montreal


User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7057 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2249 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 10):
Not me. 787s or 350s, that's another story. Smile

I thought on the former LX A332 but 787-8s and A350-899s are also possible.



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User currently offlinePLANEGUY From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2082 times:

God help those poor B6 employees if they have to start checking in passengers using PICTURES (sorry but I liked GUIDE more).  yuck 

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