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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3224 times:

Anyone know what China's top 20 airports in terms of movements are? Thanks.


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User currently offlineDFWEagle From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3118 times:

I’m not sure if the CAAC has released the 2007 data yet, but the 2006 aircraft movement figures for the top 20 mainland China airports are below -:

1. Beijing Capital International Airport (PEK), Beijing 3,486,397
2. Guangzhou Baiyun International Airport (CAN), Guangzhou, Guangdong 232,404
3. Shanghai Pudong International Airport (SHA), Shanghai 231,994
4. Shanghai Hongqiao International Airport (SHA), Shanghai 177,626
5. Shenzhen Bao'an International Airport (SZX), Shenzhen, Guangdong 169,493
6. Luoyang Airport (LYA), Luoyang, Henan 166,899
7. Chengdu Shuangliu International Airport (CTU), Chengdu, Sichuan 155,484
8. Kunming Wujiaba International Airport (KMG), Kunming, Yunnan 135,573
9. Hangzhou Xiaoshan International Airport (HGH), Hangzhou, Zhejiang 100,799
10. Xi'an Xianyang International Airport (XIY), Xi’an, Shaanxi 99,315
11. Chongqing Jiangbei International Airport (CKG), Chongqing 88,929
12. Xiamen Gaoqi International Airport (XMN), Xiamen, Fujian 77,355
13. Qingdao Liuting International Airport (TAO), Qingdao, Shandong 72,008
14. Changsha Huanghua International Airport (CSX), Changsha, Hunan 71,139
15. Wuhan Tianhe Airport (WUH), Wuhan, Hubei 66,876
16. Nanjing Lukou International Airport (NKG), Nanjing, Jiangsu 64,591
17. Haikou Meilan International Airport (HAK), Haikou, Hainan 61,738
18. Dalian Zhoushuizi International Airport (DLC), Dalian, Liaoning 56,374
19. Tianjin Binhai International Airport (TSN), Tianjin 54,948
20. Ürümqi Diwopu International Airport (URC), Ürümqi, Xinjiang A.R. 51,602

Hope this helps!



Ryan / HKG
User currently offlineMD11junkie From Argentina, joined May 2005, 3148 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3095 times:



Quoting DFWEagle (Reply 1):
3. Shanghai Pudong International Airport (SHA)

PVG?  Silly



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User currently offlineCloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2953 times:



Quoting DFWEagle (Reply 1):
1. Beijing Capital International Airport (PEK), Beijing 3,486,397

This is so wrong. Out by a factor of 10.



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9235 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2922 times:



Quoting DFWEagle (Reply 1):
10. Xi'an Xianyang International Airport (XIY), Xi’an, Shaanxi 99,315

Hopefully, they'll have one more flight operation if the air-silk route gets going... (And so will PIT)  Smile



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User currently offlineIwok From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2907 times:



Quoting DFWEagle (Reply 1):
1. Beijing Capital International Airport (PEK), Beijing 3,486,397

3,486,397!!!! So they're moving almost 300 million pax a year. Something must be wrong. Are you sure that's not [ax figures?

iwok


User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9235 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2889 times:



Quoting Iwok (Reply 5):
3,486,397!!!! So they're moving almost 300 million pax a year. Something must be wrong. Are you sure that's not [ax figures?

iwok

I believe that is a combination of pax, cargo and gen av... Aircraft movements, as in "total" aircraft movements (take-offs/landings...)



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User currently offlineCloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2825 times:



Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 6):
I believe that is a combination of pax, cargo and gen av... Aircraft movements, as in "total" aircraft movements (take-offs/landings...)

Beijing is doing about 1000 movements a day. 3,486,397 a year ~= 10000 a day.

The number is plainly wrong. Beijing had 376,643 movements for 2006.



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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2755 times:

Thanks folks.

Anyone know where a non-Chinese person living outside China can buy tickets on CTrip.com? Thanks.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineDeguoren From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2742 times:



Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 8):
Anyone know where a non-Chinese person living outside China can buy tickets on CTrip.com? Thanks.

E-tickets online, with your credit card. http://english.ctrip.com


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2732 times:

Thanks.

Really annoying: just tried to buy various tickets, the fares for which appear in the "Discount fare" category, but after entering details (but before entering card details) it comes up saying "Sorry, the seat you have chosen has been sold out" - no matter the actual flight, no matter the route. Of course, when I select the full fare there's no problem. Seems like a con.



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User currently offlineAOMlover From Singapore, joined Jul 2001, 1305 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2713 times:

Try with www.elong.net , the fares are the same.

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2693 times:

Thanks for that link. The fares don't seem quite as cheap, but there's some good ones - and, amazingly, they seem to be available.


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User currently offlineAOMlover From Singapore, joined Jul 2001, 1305 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2674 times:

Yes, that's the difference. Usually the fares look more expensive on elong simply because they display only available fares.

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2671 times:

Actually, on closer inspection you're right: the fares are virtually identical once you add taxes, although I have in fact spotted CHEAPER fares on Elong than CTrip. So, a great site.


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineDeguoren From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2606 times:

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 14):
Actually, on closer inspection you're right: the fares are virtually identical once you add taxes, although I have in fact spotted CHEAPER fares on Elong than CTrip. So, a great site

Though the topic is not about Chinese airports anymore ...

I have only made bad experiences with Elong, they are not as reliable as Ctrip. Ctrip does display cheap fares (probably the same as at Elong, as fares in China are regulated) and they will be available once. I think you are just to early to book the flights. As soon as airlines open up their discounted fares, you can book them at ctrip.
In China you do not book long in advance but rather on the short. So three weeks in advance is more than enough.

[Edited 2008-02-12 04:42:14]

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2591 times:

I think I must have been unlucky earlier with the 'fare gone' thing on CTrip because I haven't again come across it. There are some great fares, e.g. CAN-XMN CNY370/$51 one-way all-in. But I must admit I am not actually buying tickets now but rather searching for deals so I will have some idea for future trips - and because it's great fun.

Anyway, Deguoren: what Chinese airports have you visited? Were they good for viewing the movements while landside or airside?



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User currently offlineDeguoren From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2576 times:



Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 16):
Anyway, Deguoren: what Chinese airports have you visited? Were they good for viewing the movements while landside or airside?

Basically all airports in China have about the same layout. Of course the big four don't allow moving through all terminals while airside. Spotting airside is good, landside rather not.
Been to quite a few: PEK, SHA, PVG, XIY, CKG, CDU, SZX, CAN, HET, CGO, HAK, SYX, LXA, NAY (very, very, very small, good place to spot, though there are not a lot of movements), NKG, SHE, ...

Where are you planning to go? Just on a spotting trip?


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2560 times:



Quoting Deguoren (Reply 17):
Where are you planning to go? Just on a spotting trip?

Not sure yet. Might be a proper trip, i.e. for visiting and travel and not really for planes, but that won't be for ages now as we have other priorities for the next 5 years (we've had 6 months travelling in the last 2 years, so not bad). Maybe just a week flying trip in the next couple years, or if AirAsia X announce UK-KUL this year (as expected) I'll book that. Not really sure yet.

"SHA, PVG, XIY, CKG, CDU, SZX, CAN, HET, CGO, HAK, SYX, LXA, NAY, NKG, SHE..."

For now, were SHA, PVG, SZX, CAN and PEK (guess you've been there, but it wasn't in your list) good for viewing the movements either landside or airside? Plenty of windows with views of aprons/stands/runways? I don't take registrations or photos.

Cheers!



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User currently offlineDeguoren From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2540 times:

I do not take photos either - also just watching.

PVG is ok, though you cannot get very close to the windows. But you won't see any tarmac movement but the gates, as the biggest off-terminal parking is very far to the left. Cargo is to the right, you can watch this from the domestic part of the terminal.

SHA has recently been renovated and I have not yet been there. It was cramped, ugly and small before. But you could see the off-terminal parking.

PEK Terminal 1 (CZ) is nice, good view, Terminal 2 is big and you have good views too.

CAN - been there several times, but always in a hurry ... no idea about the view and layout at all.

All others have about the same layout. Air-side you have a good view. The very small or old ones Hohhot, Xining etc. are really small and there won't be more than a few aircrafts at one time.


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2536 times:

Thanks a lot. You've been very helpful.

Last question for now: is PVG good for watching when airside? I wasn't sure whether you were talking about landside or airside.



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User currently offlineDeguoren From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2525 times:



Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 20):
Last question for now: is PVG good for watching when airside? I wasn't sure whether you were talking about landside or airside.

No view from landside at all. Only airside. I cannot think of any airport in China that has a decent landside view... If you need more info on china travel, just write!

Cheers!


User currently offlineDFWEagle From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2522 times:



Quoting Cloudyapple (Reply 3):
This is so wrong. Out by a factor of 10.



Quoting Iwok (Reply 5):


Quoting DFWEagle (Reply 1):
1. Beijing Capital International Airport (PEK), Beijing 3,486,397

3,486,397!!!! So they're moving almost 300 million pax a year. Something must be wrong. Are you sure that's not [ax figures?

You are right. I typed the wrong number for Beijing – it should have been 378,888.

I typed the figure for total movements (whole of China!)

Data is on the CAAC website (www.caac.gov.cn).



Ryan / HKG
User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9235 posts, RR: 21
Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2451 times:



Quoting Cloudyapple (Reply 7):
Beijing is doing about 1000 movements a day. 3,486,397 a year ~= 10000 a day.

The number is plainly wrong. Beijing had 376,643 movements for 2006.



Quoting DFWEagle (Reply 22):
You are right. I typed the wrong number for Beijing – it should have been 378,888.

I typed the figure for total movements (whole of China!)

Ah. So it was wrong...  silly 



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