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January 2008 Orders & Deliveries  
User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12573 posts, RR: 46
Posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2869 times:
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Here is a summary of Airbus and Boeing orders and deliveries for January 2008.

Gross Orders for month (YTD)
Airbus - 238 (238)
Boeing - 65 (65)

Cancellations for month (YTD)
Airbus - 0 (0)
Boeing - 0 (0)

Net Orders for month (YTD)
Airbus - 238 (238)
Boeing - 65 (65)

Deliveries for month (YTD)
Airbus - 37 (37)
Boeing - 34 (34)

Backlog
Airbus - 3,622
Boeing - 3,458


Order Details for month (YTD)
Airbus:
A320 - 210 (210)
A330 - 10 (10)
A350 - 18 (18)

Boeing:
737 - 22 (22)
747 - 1 (1)
777 - 2 (2)
787 - 40 (40)

Delivery details for month (YTD)
Airbus:
A320 - 31 (31)
A330 - 5 (5)
A380 - 1 (1)

Boeing:
737 - 26 (26)
747 - 1 (1)
767 - 1 (1)
777 - 7 (7)

Backlog Details
Airbus:
A310 - 5
A320 - 2,691
A330 - 360
A340 - 41
A350 - 338
A380 - 187

Boeing:
737 - 2,072
747 - 125
767 - 51
777 - 214
787 - 857


Notes
Airbus reached 6,000 sales for the A320 family in January.

Airbus order conversions:
Air Berlin -2 A319, +2 A321
CIT -3 A319, +3 A321
Kingfisher -4 A320, + 4 A321

Boeing order conversions:
I don't know an easy way to find this information from Boeing, can anyone help?


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User currently offlineRedFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4335 posts, RR: 28
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2867 times:

Nice comprehensive list and very well laid-out.


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User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3435 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2831 times:

You are a LEGEND!! I look forward to these updates!

Cheers!



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User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2745 times:



Quoting Scbriml (Thread starter):
777 - 214

That's for 777-300ER's only. Total backlog for the 777 stands at 353.


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User currently offlineAzhobo From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2671 times:

I came up with 25 net cancellations in airbus single aisle for January. Correct me if i am wrong.

HOBO


User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2665 times:



Quoting Azhobo (Reply 4):
I came up with 25 net cancellations in airbus single aisle for January

No. Airbus had no cancellations that I could pinpoint.


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User currently offlineThegeek From Australia, joined Nov 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2609 times:



Quoting Scbriml (Thread starter):
Deliveries for month (YTD)
Airbus - 37 (37)
Boeing - 34 (34)

Backlog
Airbus - 3,622
Boeing - 3,458

Whoa!! Roughly 100 months of backlog for both A & B (or 8 years). Are A & B going to be increasing their production rates soon?


User currently offlineChiad From Norway, joined May 2006, 1153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2565 times:



Quoting Scbriml (Thread starter):
Here is a summary of Airbus and Boeing orders and deliveries for January 2008.

Awesome post Scbriml.
Thank you so much!
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User currently offlineAstuteman From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 10075 posts, RR: 97
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2529 times:
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Quoting Thegeek (Reply 6):
Roughly 100 months of backlog for both A & B (or 8 years). Are A & B going to be increasing their production rates soon?

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Over the next 2-3 years, Airbus should see another 5 or 6 A320's per month, and of course, the A380 should hit 4 per month in 2010.
Boeing in that time should see 787 deliveries ramp up into double figures per month, which as far as I can see, is a direct addition to the current delivery rate.

I would expect delivery rates by 2010 to be of the order of 45-50 frames per month for each manufacturer.
Which means backlogs will still be in excess of 6 years overall.......  Smile

Regards


User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3395 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2529 times:



Quoting Azhobo (Reply 4):
I came up with 25 net cancellations in airbus single aisle for January. Correct me if i am wrong.

HOBO

To blantantly steal the figures that Moo put together in another thread:

Air Berlin - A319: -2 A321 +2
Bmed - A321: -5 BMI A321 +5
CIT Leasing - A319: -3 A321 +3
Kingfisher Airlines - A320: -4 A312 +4
undisclosed A320 -9 NIKI A320 +9

so I think that the overal net effect of all these conversions is 9


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12573 posts, RR: 46
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2476 times:
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Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 3):
That's for 777-300ER's only. Total backlog for the 777 stands at 353.

Oops, my bad! Somehow I read the wrong row in the report. I obviously also didn't double-check my numbers.  blush 

Revised backlog details for Boeing:
737 - 2,072
747 - 125
767 - 51
777 - 353
787 - 857

Which does now tally with 3,458 unfilled orders at end January.

Quoting Azhobo (Reply 4):
I came up with 25 net cancellations in airbus single aisle for January. Correct me if i am wrong.

You are.  wink 

Airbus totals for A320 family at end December 2007 were 103, 1592, 3489, 665 (total 5,849).

In Jan they added 210 new orders - 0, 6, 204, 0 (giving a total of 6,059).

As others have pointed out, there were some conversions between types (9 x A319 converted to 9 x A321), but the family totals do tally 5,849 + 210 = 6,059.



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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12573 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2466 times:
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If folks find this helpful, and I promise to double-check the numbers before I post the next one, I'm more than happy to produce this data each month. Personally, I find it helpful to see what both manufacturers have done month-on-month. The biggest frustration is having to wait till the middle of the following month before we get Airbus's numbers.

Does anyone know an easy way to find Boeing order conversions - it's reasonably simple (if a little tedious) for Airbus because the O&D spreadsheet contains a complete list of every airline that operates the types (even if they've never ordered directly from Airbus). I'm not aware that the same data is available from Boeing.



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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3395 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2427 times:



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 11):
If folks find this helpful,

Yes it's brilliant, thanks very much!

Something that I've noticed - is that Airbus seems to of overtaken Boeing in the size of the backlog (is this for the first time?)
Dec07 Jan08
A 3421 3622
B 3427 3458

Obviously there's a hidden detail in there with B having a greater proportion of wides in their backlog but interesting nonetheless!


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12573 posts, RR: 46
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2346 times:
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Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 12):
Something that I've noticed - is that Airbus seems to of overtaken Boeing in the size of the backlog (is this for the first time?)

I believe Airbus has previously had a bigger backlog than Boeing. Boeing's three straight 1,000+ years enabled them to catch up and move ahead of Airbus. This month Airbus is back in front, next month it could be Boeing again. To be honest, comparing backlog on a month-to-month basis is no more than interesting, while comparing on a year-by-year basis certainly reveals more.



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User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2150 times:



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 11):
Does anyone know an easy way to find Boeing order conversions

The best method I've found is to look in their "Standard Reports" then "Report by Model" listing. There it will give you a breakdown of the various sub-models. Once listed, just check it against previous months (however, this assumes that you have a seperate listing of the previous months breakdown. For me, I've been keeping Excel spreadsheets on orders for nearly five years now, so it's a bit easier  Wink ).

Conversions that I can remember off the top of my head from January:

GECAS -2 772F +2 773ER
GECAS -?? 73G +?? 739ER
Qatar -2 772F +2 773ER
ILFC -?? 73G +?? 738

Regards,

Hamlet69  profile 



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