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User currently offlineUS A333 PIT From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 310 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1605 times:

Do modern planes ever lock up the breaks and crank the engines to full throttle on takeoffs anymore? They used to when I was very young and it always made for a spectacular powerful takeoff. I swear it hasn't happend since the very early 80's. I assume they don't do this as much because of the longer runways and more powerful engines. If there are any other reasons I'd love to know, and if any planes at any airports still do this I'd love to know. Thanks in advanced!

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User currently offlineAS737900 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1536 times:

When departing runway 8 at Juneau (PAJN) they still do this due to noise abatement on the straight-out departure and altitude restrictions on the Lemon Creek departure (the oh-my-god... we're making this kind of maneuver in a 737 departure)  Smile

User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1511 times:

Aircraft out of SNA do it all the time.

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User currently offlineAirnewzealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2542 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1481 times:

Qantas, AirNZ do it at Auckland!! I have been in this case. God i say it is powerful when they release those brakes.

Cheers
mikey


User currently offlineBA747-436 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 1259 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1461 times:

When i was departing St Lucia on a Brittania 767-200ER, we had the engines spool up to about 80% before releasing the already groaning breaks and shooting down that runway like a bat out of hell! rotated at around 170kts! a little to quick if you ask me!
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User currently offlineRonE From Israel, joined Jan 2001, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1442 times:

I flew my first ever flight when I was 4 with a 737-200, and I do have a vague memory of a really speedy rotation and then an almost vertical climb- but then again, seeing as it was my very first time on a plane I might have been over-awed by the entire experience and maybe I remember it as more drastic than it really was.....  Confused

User currently offlineJetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1434 times:

We do it quite often in the corporate jets that I fly. It's a normal procedure anytime the available runway is less than 120% of the required runway distance. It's really a hoot, especially when we're light and/or flying a deadhead leg. (Wouldn't want to spill the boss's coffee!) It usually always gets a comment from the tower. Yea Haw!!! Big grin

User currently offlineViflyer From US Virgin Islands, joined May 1999, 500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1406 times:

Our airline does it every now and then out of outstations with short runways. On the Saabs everynow and then especally when were maxed out. On the RJ's (EMB-135/145) it really cool.....hearing thoese jets scream and when they relase the brakes...you just zip down the runway. This happens espically in DCA when they give us the short runway (I can't recall y the #).


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User currently offlineKonaB777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1386 times:

United 737-300 at Southern Illinois Airport (Carbondale), RWy 36R. 6,000 feet long. 100 feet wide.

User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 9, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1380 times:

Quite often the FedEx A310s and many of the Delta MD-80s do that here at CLE, even on the parallels (8,999 and 8,000). The MD-80s really roar!
I also miss the UA DC-10 which darn near blew me off the spotting knoll a few times doing that.

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User currently offlineShawn Patrick From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1357 times:

As Maiznblu_757 said, just about every t/o is in the sling-shot manner. I've done it in a UAL 757 - the biggest plane going into SNA. Boy, is that fun! However, all the fun ends, when, as soon as you rotate, the pilot seriously chops back the engines to comply with TIGHT noise abatement procedures. Fun, and scary all at the same time!

-Shawn


User currently offlineHailstone From Germany, joined Nov 2000, 410 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1339 times:

would that not be mainly depending on runway lenghth and take off weight ??

User currently offlineIndianGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1325 times:

why does everyone have an exp... with this kind of t/o on a 732.

I have mine on these too.

old COK airport on Alliance 732's. Hmmm. now THATs something i am not likely to forget in a hurry!


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User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 377 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1322 times:

Whats a sling shot takeoff? I found the take off at LHR very high speed and steeply angled, it was on an Emirates A300-600 Smile


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User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4781 posts, RR: 23
Reply 14, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1317 times:

I remember this type of takeoff is done frequently by Air New Zealand 737-200s on domestic routes...at least they did when I was there. I've also been on DC-10s and an A320 that have done a "sling-shot" takeoff...it is very exciting.

User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 377 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1307 times:

OK! I get it now, yes ive wondered about that too, I have seen some aircraft do that in KHI on rare occasions mostly A300s and 747s Smile


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User currently offlineTurbineBeaver From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1199 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1284 times:

Hey, I know EXACTLY what you are talking about! When I was in Port Blair (IXZ) (andaman and Nicobar), we revved those ?JT8Ds? up to full throttle and literally FLEW outta there!!! It was awesome!!! Also in BTV (Burlington, Vermont, USA) We shoot right out on those UAL CRj's!!!


TB


User currently offlineCoRocks From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1268 times:

I fly out of IAH on Continental every week, and have had them do it several times. Maybe the pilots just enjoy doing it more since there really is not a practical reason in Houston.

User currently offline707guy From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1249 times:

I remember when I was in the Navy flying on C-9's - I used to say that you could always tell the reserve pilots who used to fly fighters - because they would do that all the time. Interesting feeling when you're sitting right behind a few thousand pounds of cargo that you hope you netted the right way!

User currently offlineAndman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1242 times:

We did it once on a Ryanair 737-200 out of Stansted. I could have sworn that I was flying in a fighter, and the fact that I was in a 737 was insane.

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