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Bmi Damp Leases 2 757s For LHR, Tweaks Mid-haul  
User currently offlineJamesontheroad From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 537 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 2 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9543 times:

Probably surprise to no-one except bmi management that A330s aren't easy to find get hold of right now, but this sounds sensible to me: 757 a much better ac for these longer mid-haul routes. And no doubt yet more interesting hybrid liveries for us to look out for .

Word on the street, however, is that the two aircraft are going to be G-STRX and G-STRY, which both all-white right now.

Quote:

bmi leases two aircraft to further expand mid haul network at London Heathrow
Source: http://flybmi.com/bmi/en-gb/about-bm...entre/press-releases/20080213.aspx

13 February 2008

- airline to lease two Boeing 757s to increase capacity and improve schedules to Almaty and Freetown
- increases capacity to Tel Aviv
- strong performance of former BMED routes

bmi, London Heathrow’s second largest airline, is to lease two Boeing 757-200 aircraft to further expand its mid haul strategy from Heathrow. The aircraft will be used to increase capacity and to significantly improve schedules to the existing destinations of Almaty and Freetown. In addition, the airline’s new Heathrow to Tel Aviv service, which commences on 13 March with an Airbus A320, will also benefit from an upgrade in capacity to the Boeing 757 shortly after the route is launched.

From 1 May new non-stop links from Heathrow to both Almaty in Kazakhstan and Freetown will be introduced. Flying times to the Sierra Leone capital will be reduced by over an hour and a half and the route will also be enhanced by the addition of an extra flight, taking the total to four flights a week. The introduction of non-stop flights between Heathrow and Almaty will reduce flying time each way by two hours. The new Heathrow to Tel Aviv service – which is selling beyond expectations - will be upgraded on six days a week to a Boeing 757 which will considerably increase capacity on the route. Bishkek, previously operated via Yerevan, will now operate via Almaty, thus reducing the onward flight time compared to the previous intermediate point as well as benefiting from the larger Boeing 757 aircraft.

The introduction of these two Boeing 757s into the bmi fleet will also enable schedule enhancements and increases in capacity to existing Airbus A321 operations. Services from Heathrow to Ekaterinburg and Yerevan will now not operate to destinations beyond, thus increasing their point to point capacity and improving flight schedules. A much improved daily schedule between Heathrow and Tehran will also be introduced. The changes will enable bmi to offer far more attractive schedules as well as improving connection timings and offering a wider range of destinations via Heathrow, particularly with flights to and from the USA.

Nigel Turner, chief executive officer of bmi, said: “We strongly believe that in order to continue the development of the mid haul network, now is the time to upgrade capacity and the aircraft range on certain routes that will clearly benefit from non-stop services. We also think it is important to make the timing improvements we have identified in order to maximise their convenience and competitiveness as well as extending the range of connections that are available at Heathrow.

“The delivery of suitable Airbus A330 aircraft is a little way off and we do not want to delay the range of service enhancements unveiled today. By leasing the two Boeing 757s, pending the sourcing of suitable A330 aircraft, we are able to accelerate our Heathrow growth and ensure that we can maintain the momentum of our mid haul route strategy, laying strong foundations for future developments in this important market.

“The former BMED routes that were integrated into the bmi network at the start of the winter timetable are performing extremely well and showing strong growth in passenger numbers and revenue generation. Their performance is a clear vindication of the sound strategic decision we made to invest in the acquisition of BMED to further develop our mid haul network at London Heathrow.

“Despite only starting in November, the integration of these services into bmi is already having a positive effect on the business.”

The two 757 aircraft have been damp-leased* from Astraeus for an initial two year period with an option to extend. Two separate cabins will offer a mix of business class and economy service.

The introduction of the network changes will result in the suspension of services between Heathrow and Dakar.

*damp-leased means the aircraft will operate with an Astraeus flight crew but a bmi cabin crew

ends

note to editors

• London Heathrow – Freetown*
BD992 Mon, Wed, Fri & Sun
Freetown – Heathrow*
BD993 Mon, Tues, Thur & Sat

• London Heathrow – Almaty*
BD990 Mon, Thurs & Sat
Almaty – Heathrow*
BD991 Tues, Fri & Sun

*flight timings to be confirmed

• London Heathrow – Tehran
BD931 dep Heathrow 18:30, arr Tehran 03:50 (Daily)
Tehran– Heathrow
BD932 dep Tehran 08:15, arr Heathrow 11:15 (Daily)

• London Heathrow – Bishkek
BD965 dep Heathrow 12:45, arr Bishkek 02:20 (Mon, Fri, Sun)
Bishkek – Heathrow
BD966 dep Bishkek 07:05, arr Heathrow 11:15 (Mon, Tue, Sat)

All flight times are local and subject to final confirmation


[Edited 2008-02-13 10:38:15]

[Edited 2008-02-13 10:39:38]

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User currently offlineTyphaerion From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 619 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 9448 times:
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I had heard of wet leases before, and dry leases before, but damp lease??

That one is a new one on me.

And good for bmi. The extra capacity will be well served into LHR.



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User currently offlineCloud4000 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 640 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 9437 times:

It says scores about BMI's lack of business strategy. I do not see why BMI does not advantage of the open skies agreement betweent the EU and United States and launch some flights from the Continent.


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User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3901 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 9403 times:

In fairness to BD, it is a good move. The 757 should allow that little bit extra capacity wise over the 320/321 while still not being as large as the 330. It will also provide teh legs the the 320/321 lacked somewhat to go to the further reaches of the B|MED network.

Hopefully the 757s will be configured to match the product BD sends to CAI/TLV/DME, and the aircraft will be fitted with BD carpets, curtains, seatcovers in Y. Realistically PTVs should feature throughout, as the competitors to that region have an excellent 'hard' product too. What I do wonder is where the excess capacity is going to go? Presumably this will free up some aircraft time, so perhaps the fleet will be reconfigured to one layout....ha!

I think BD are finally getting their act together. This is good news!

Brian.



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24811 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 9296 times:



Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 3):

Looks like Astraeus 757s so they'll have to remove some things to get down to BMI level  duck 



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User currently onlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3930 posts, RR: 34
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 9278 times:



Quoting Typhaerion (Reply 1):
I had heard of wet leases before, and dry leases before, but damp lease??

usually includes flight crew, but not cabin crew.


User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 9018 times:



Quoting Jamesontheroad (Thread starter):
The introduction of the network changes will result in the suspension of services between Heathrow and Dakar.

Was there no sufficient traffic between these two cities or was yield too low ?
-HT



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User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 8958 times:

The link to Freeetown is much better suited to the 757, its power and range ideal for that hot mid range destination. I would be very dissapointed to see the scrapping of Dakar and maybe Air Senegal with the smaller 737-700 might consider LON?

User currently offlineA300 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 466 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 8790 times:
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Am I reading this correctly that IKA is getting the 757? That is good news for BD and IKA. IR's IKA-LHR have been downsized from a B747SP to an A300-600 (only thrice weekly). Perhaps there is a need for even more seats between the two airports. Is there any news about BA restarting service to IKA?


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User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 8765 times:

Here we go again!!

They had a 757 based out of MAN to IAD, that was one of the worst flights from teh reports i read. Totally not BD style at all.

Now they are doing it again!!

BD really need to get a grip and decide what operation they want to provide, not the mish mash they currently operate.


User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8492 times:



Quoting Trekster (Reply 9):
BD really need to get a grip and decide what operation they want to provide, not the mish mash they currently operate.

And I guess we'll see their bare white 757's anonymously gracing the LHR tarmac for the next three years..if the new routes last that long.  Yeah sure


User currently offlineTonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1394 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8490 times:

Once again I find myself asking....what the hell are BMI management up to????
It beggars belief altogether.
And just out of curiosity....what exactly does a BMI plane look like these days? I forget which is the real livery!!!



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User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8471 times:



Quoting Tonystan (Reply 11):
And just out of curiosity....what exactly does a BMI plane look like these days? I forget which is the real livery!!!

1 of three (Im training near LHR and the window i face looks right onto final approach, planes come right towards me and over the building towards the 27 end of the runway, very good for a spotter, not when your learning manual fares lol)

1. Dark blue old BD livery
2. BA blue belly with white top.
3. Current BD livery


A odd mix, to now include 2 white 757's with a totally different cabin from the rest of the fleet with a different inflight product from the rest no doubt.


User currently offlineAddd From United States of America, joined May 2007, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 8415 times:



Quoting Jamesontheroad (Thread starter):
From 1 May new non-stop links from Heathrow to both Almaty in Kazakhstan and Freetown will be introduced. Flying times to the Sierra Leone capital will be reduced by over an hour and a half and the route will also be enhanced by the addition of an extra flight, taking the total to four flights a week. The introduction of non-stop flights between Heathrow and Almaty will reduce flying time each way by two hours. The new Heathrow to Tel Aviv service – which is selling beyond expectations - will be upgraded on six days a week to a Boeing 757 which will considerably increase capacity on the route. Bishkek, previously operated via Yerevan, will now operate via Almaty, thus reducing the onward flight time compared to the previous intermediate point as well as benefiting from the larger Boeing 757 aircraft.



Quoting Jamesontheroad (Thread starter):
London Heathrow – Almaty*
BD990 Mon, Thurs & Sat
Almaty – Heathrow*
BD991 Tues, Fri & Sun

*flight timings to be confirmed


• London Heathrow – Bishkek
BD965 dep Heathrow 12:45, arr Bishkek 02:20 (Mon, Fri, Sun)
Bishkek – Heathrow
BD966 dep Bishkek 07:05, arr Heathrow 11:15 (Mon, Tue, Sat)

OK, I am confused by all this Almaty-Bishkek business. First they make it sound as if they are now going to fly LHR-ALA-FRU-ALA-LHR and then they show flights to ALA and FRU leaving Heathrow on different days of the week... what gives?


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12033 posts, RR: 47
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 8353 times:
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Quoting Trekster (Reply 12):
1. Dark blue old BD livery
2. BA blue belly with white top.
3. Current BD livery

4. Star Alliance c/s  wink 

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User currently offlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2785 posts, RR: 26
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days ago) and read 8190 times:

Moan Moan Moan. Too many people on here see a bmi thread as an opportunity to bash !!

bmi need to get this right though for it to work.

Damp leasing means it will be bmi crew in the cabin - good  checkmark 

Seeing as it's a relatively long lease,I hope the interiors will be bmi-ed also, for continuity -  checkmark 

The upgrade from 320/1 to 752 gives bmi instant extra capacity and range -  checkmark 

Leasing will be more cost effective than buying right now whilst the 2nd hand market is buouyant  checkmark 

I also regard this development as a vote of confidence in their MAN long haul, which should go some way to suppress the opinion on here that the A330s were going to disappear from MAN the minute LHR ops required them. Fact is, they're scouring the market for additional 330s for LHR, leasing in more capcity, whilst not cannibalising their schedule elsewhere.  checkmark   checkmark 

It's been a long time waiting for hell to freeze over, but after a long spell of bewildering decisions, I actually think they've got this one right.  thumbsup 

Shamu



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User currently offlineJamesontheroad From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 537 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days ago) and read 8164 times:



Quoting Trekster (Reply 9):
They had a 757 based out of MAN to IAD, that was one of the worst flights from teh reports i read. Totally not BD style at all.

Remeber, the IAD switch to 757 was a downgrade from an A330. These mid-haul routes are being upgraded to 757 from A320 and A321. Putting a leased 757 on IAD helped kill that route, but this time it could really help these ones grow.


User currently offlineLapper From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 1558 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days ago) and read 8158 times:



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 14):
Quoting Trekster (Reply 12):
1. Dark blue old BD livery
2. BA blue belly with white top.
3. Current BD livery

4. Star Alliance c/s

5. Old Star alliance colour scheme:

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User currently offlineTheginge From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 1126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7850 times:

BMED should have had 757's years ago to operate routes like ALA. BMI management have realised this and that is why they are doing it. Passengers didn;t really like the stop in SVX. Out of ALA the Lufthansa flight direct to FRA was almost always full while the BMED one often had no more than 30 people on it. I am guessing that BMI are going to try and win some of these passengers back.

User currently offline757ops From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7735 times:
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Quoting Theginge (Reply 18):

This is True and it will enable bmi to operate aircraft similar or identical to their competitors!

ET operate ADD-LHR-ADD with 757-200
4L operate ALA-LHR-ALA with 757-200

Good on you bmi but please take not and make sure the cabins are uniform to the rest of the fleet!!


User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7256 posts, RR: 17
Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7536 times:



Quoting Jamesontheroad (Thread starter):
Word on the street, however, is that the two aircraft are going to be G-STRX and G-STRY, which both all-white right now.

G-STRY is currently on wet lease to BA (although G-STRZ and G-OPJB have been occasionally substituted by Astraeus since this arrangement started shortly after 'RY was delivered to Astraeus back in December). It is operating daily rotations out of LGW to KEF (BA2650/51) as well as a six-days-a-week rotation to BCN (BA2490/91).

A check on the BA on-line timetable shows that these services will be operated by a 757 flown by 'Astraeus Gambia' up until the end of the current winter timetable at the end of March. Of course this does not preclude the damp lease of two aircraft from the Astraeus fleet to BD.


User currently offlineBwaflyer From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 689 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7388 times:



Quoting VV701 (Reply 20):
(although G-STRZ and G-OPJB have been occasionally substituted by Astraeus since this arrangement started shortly after 'RY was delivered to Astraeus back in December).

Also now and again a 737-700 (RH or RF) operate as well.

KEF is operated M, Th, Fr, Su mornings (BA 2650 / 1)
MAD is operated Tu, We, Sa mornings (BA 2464 / 5)
BCN is operated daily afternnoons (BA2490 / 1)

AEU catering duty free and bars are offered on board. IFE is not offered as per normal BA service.


User currently offlineORDagent From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 7268 times:



Quoting Cloud4000 (Reply 2):
I do not see why BMI does not advantage of the open skies agreement between the EU and United States and launch some flights from the Continent

IIRC the management at BD stated that they are not going to increase service over the N. Atlantic because with open skies they are expecting as huge increase in competition which could lower yields. They have many codeshare options between LH/UA/US as part of Star Alliance. Cut BD some slack. They are trying to find a profitable route structure and to me it looks like they are finally getting there.


User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1401 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 7117 times:

Astraeus are leasing two ex-Omni International 757s in 2 class configuration, let's hope these are the two coming our way!

Regards

Mike


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16934 posts, RR: 48
Reply 24, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 6999 times:

I'm surprsied there's enough demand between FRU/FNA and LON to add that much service. It will definitely be easier to go to Kyrgyzstan now Smile

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 7):
Air Senegal with the smaller 737-700 might consider LON?

Air Senegal seems to be in a lot worse shape than I thought so I don't imagine they'll be adding anything anytime soon.



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25 SK736 : And an equal number immediately jump to their defence, regardless of the relative merits of the argument.[Edited 2008-02-14 08:53:47]
26 Post contains images BlueShamu330s : And your contribution to the thread is...?
27 Bwaflyer : Yes G-STRY and G-STRX are those two aircraft. They're currently operating out of LGW in an all-white paint scheme in a 1 class 205 seat layout on AEU
28 PurpleBox : Will they get winglets? PurpleBox.
29 Captainsimon : BMI done well to get them B757s, I heard that there was a shortage of decent 757s to lease.
30 Viscount724 : If not mistaken, Air Senegal is still majority-owned (51%) by Royal Air Maroc.
31 Bigvince76 : Can these 757s make it across the pond, ie. MAN-ORD? I hope not but could they be used to cover for an a330 if needed?
32 VV701 : G-STRY or a sustitute aircraft is operating the following services for BA until 28 March. It then appears that 'RY and 'RX will be converted to a two-
33 N1120A : Interestingly long down time in Tehran. I wonder why that is? That isn't all that much of a downsize if you think about it. What happened to the 741/
34 Theginge : All down to the 1115 LHR arrival slot. BMED had some very long down time down route as the time they could come back was governed by the LHR slots. I
35 SK736 : Obvious....did you need it spelling out in big letters?
36 AF022 : Does BMI have A330s on order? Will they be expanding their widebody operations?
37 Aisak : They did but kind of defered them due to the purchase of BMED and the changes at LHR due to Open Skies.
38 Post contains links MaverickM11 : They're down to 25%. The state took the rest. Senegal Will Take Control Of Air Senegal From At (by MaverickM11 Oct 31 2007 in Civil Aviation)
39 TLVFred : What C class will it be ? the one on the A320 or the A330?
40 Post contains links BestWestern : Less than seven months ago bmi announced the acquisition of five A321s for the Bmed operation, at a cost of $250m. How can they get it so wrong. http:
41 Ankaraflyjet : Another development to watch is that Turkish Airlins is set to join Star Alliance on April 1st and BMI is the only operator of nonstop flights between
42 Post contains links and images Debonair : GREAT, GREAT! and if one of these birds gone tech, they will substitute G-OJIB "ED FORCE ONE by Metallica"! Must be fun, like those passengers: View
43 JRadier : What? Because they start flying 2 757's on their longest/strongest routes the A321 is suddenly worthless?
44 Egmcman : At the moment the they are leasing a Titan Airways 757.
45 BlueShamu330s : No, I can spell "nothing" unaided thanks.
46 Humberside : It does beg the question what they will do with these aircraft on order - replace older A321's or A320's maybe? Or try and swap the A321's for (a sma
47 Aisak : Well. These leases are not forever, they're just for 2+1 years... Anyway BMI could use these 321 to grow. Maybe more mid-haul on ex-BMED routes. Reme
48 BestWestern : I wonder what the BD and Bmed pilots think of being replaced by Astreus pilots. BMI will be shrinking from heathrow, not growing - they have to hand o
49 Orion737 : Also the 321 must surely struggle on many ex BMed routes, most are pushing very hard at the 321s range. The 757 is more suited.
50 BestWestern : So why did Bmi go and order five more of them late last year... Yet another duh! moment in a series of Duh! moments from Bmi HQ. Imagine buying an ai
51 ZKOJH : The order was 750 million $ for a selecion of 5 x A321's and 5 x A330's bmi having some switch arounds the A330's have seem to be cancelled again, see
52 A300 : It seems that all IR 747s are on the medium to long Asian routes now. Furthermore, they still operate from THR. The European routes are flown with th
53 AirNZ : Why.....what's wrong with Airbus a/c for their long haul needs? They just just need to sort out what they need/want so absolutely no requirement in p
54 AF022 : Can someone explain what is going on with slots?
55 Post contains links VV701 : All the former BMED slots at LHR will become BA slots come the summer schedules at the end of March. You will find the background to this at: http://
56 BestWestern : Why? - Because they arent profitable routes. This was Bmeds bread and butter, and they couldnt make them work. What will Bmi do that BA cant?
57 Theginge : BMED's A321's did struggle on some routes, particularly from THR, in the summer it was the high air temperature which often meant they could take fue
58 BestWestern : So, why did bmi order 5x A321's then.
59 Orion737 : iI never understood why BMed went for the 321, it was obv going to be challenged on routes like Tehran and Dakar plus many of their other routes.
60 Theginge : The order was originally BMED's from a few years ago. BMI decided to continue to honour the deal that BMED made with Airbus for 5x A321. BMED ordered
61 Orion737 : The 321 was always unsuited to tehran from the begining. The 320, fine but that underpowered 321, no.
62 BestWestern : Why did they continue to honour an aircraft that isnt now deemed suitable, and add to it 5x332 that they dont have a delivery date for, even though t
63 Theginge : It is suitable for BEY, AMM, CAI, TLV and any routes a similar distance to that. Who knows why they keep knocking back the A330 orders!
64 VV701 : In well over a month of operation for BA other aircraft have bee substituted for G-STRY on several occasions. Usually 752s G-STRZ or G-OPJB have been
65 Humberside : Operationally the A321 may be suited for TLV, but its going B757. Comapred to other airlines at TLV, isnt the A321 a bit small?
66 PurpleBox : Does anybody know if BD will get more A330's? PurpleBox.
67 Bwaflyer : And that the aircraft went to Lasham to have the cargo and seating conversion in mid-Jan ready to start the world tour at the end of Jan. At the mome
68 777way : Israel refuse slots to BMI want till Israeli carriers get more slots at LHR.
69 N1120A : I find that interesting too. This is my guess. Remember as well that THR almost 4000 feet in elevation, which doesn't combine well with the high summ
70 Post contains images B742 : The IKA-LHR route is going to 4x weekly 747's from 29th March. Currently operated by 3x weekly A300's. Other Iran Air routes in Europe this summer: A
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