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Air Greenland To LON Or FRA?  
User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2790 times:

Any chance of a service from Air Greenland to either London or Frankfurt, even a seasonal service would be nice to see, it would be the sole carrier to Greenland from these destinations and would boost tourism. They could charge high prices too.

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User currently offlineCXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2778 times:

Probably not. Even if it would boost tourism, there's not exactly a huge market for travel to Greenland now. The current services to Iceland and Denmark and summer charters to BWI suffice.


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User currently offlineSQ6807 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2008, 163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2617 times:

I had never really given Air Greenland much thought but now that I have given it a little I have a couple of musings.

1) Why choose BWI as a US destination? I know that Icelandair flies there too, but that is not an explanation. BOS is closer, JFK/EWR have more of a population base, why fly over the top of them only to arrive at BWI?

2) The 332 seems like a lot of plane for the routes they are flying. I know they have a 752 as well, I would have thought they'd be better to have a pair of 752s?


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25638 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2594 times:

Quoting SQ6807 (Reply 2):
Why choose BWI as a US destination? I know that Icelandair flies there too, but that is not an explanation. BOS is closer, JFK/EWR have more of a population base, why fly over the top of them only to arrive at BWI?

Slot times and airport handling costs (landing fees etc.) are probably a factor, and there could be other reasons related to specific types of traffic. Coincidentally, a weekly chartered DC-8-62/72 Combi operated by ATI (Air Transport International) for the USAF to transport personnel and supplies to the USAF base at Thule on the northwest coast of Greenland (the most northerly U.S. military installation) also departs from BWI, probably because of government traffic (Defense Dept. etc.) on those flights apart from military personnel.
http://www.thule.af.mil/library/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=5027

[Edited 2008-02-13 15:35:28]

User currently offlineAZO From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 767 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2590 times:



Quoting SQ6807 (Reply 2):
Why choose BWI as a US destination? I know that Icelandair flies there too

FYI I believe Icelandair canceled BWI not too long ago.



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User currently offlineSQ6807 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2008, 163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2575 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 3):
departs from BWI, probably because of government traffic (Defense Dept. etc.) on those flights apart from military personnel

That's probably a good explanation.


User currently offlineA380US From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2444 times:

They would also be able to take transits right?
How long would a BWI- Greenland- LON vs. BWI- ORD/ JFK- LON



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26601 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2439 times:



Quoting SQ6807 (Reply 2):

2) The 332 seems like a lot of plane for the routes they are flying. I know they have a 752 as well, I would have thought they'd be better to have a pair of 752s?

The 752 was formerly their flagship, but loads apparently necessitated the A332.



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User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2390 times:

I think a direct servive from London to Greenland, even on a seasonal basis, would prove popular. They could always link it to their BWI flight and offer cheap fares, like Icelandair did back in the 70's for their JFK flights.

People are running out of new places to go, so why not Greenland (using a smaller a/c naturally).  Wink


User currently offlineBrisseDK From Denmark, joined Nov 2007, 383 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2377 times:



Quoting SQ6807 (Reply 2):
I know that Icelandair flies there too

FI has discontinued BWI as of 13th Jan. citing escalating costs and decreasing revenues operating the route.

Quoting SQ6807 (Reply 2):
The 332 seems like a lot of plane for the routes they are flying. I know they have a 752 as well, I would have thought they'd be better to have a pair of 752s?



Quoting N1120A (Reply 7):
The 752 was formerly their flagship, but loads apparently necessitated the A332.

The traffic between SFJ and CPH is quite significant both PAX and especially Cargo-wise, thus the A332 makes sense over the 757. Also GL needed more than just 1 757 to serve CPH from both SFJ, UAK and on/off THU.

GL is also active in the charter business, so you regularly see the A332 and 757 in southern Europe.

I often see the A332 on remote stand in CPH. It's a real beauty!

Regards,
BJ



Frequent flyer based in CPH - mostly heading to: OSL, HEL, KEF, FAE and EWR
User currently offlinePagophilus From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2303 times:



Quoting SQ6807 (Reply 2):
2) The 332 seems like a lot of plane for the routes they are flying. I know they have a 752 as well, I would have thought they'd be better to have a pair of 752s?

A lot of their passengers are on private or government business, also Greenlanders commuting between Denmark and Greenland, not to mention summer tourists. In summer their planes are very full.

Quoting Babybus (Reply 8):
I think a direct servive from London to Greenland, even on a seasonal basis, would prove popular. They could always link it to their BWI flight and offer cheap fares, like Icelandair did back in the 70's for their JFK flights.

People are running out of new places to go, so why not Greenland (using a smaller a/c naturally).

There isn't enough infrastructure in Greenland to cope with a significant increase in tourists. If you bring your own tent and camp there's plenty of room.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25638 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1952 times:



Quoting Pagophilus (Reply 10):
There isn't enough infrastructure in Greenland to cope with a significant increase in tourists. If you bring your own tent and camp there's plenty of room.

Population is only 60,000 but if it was an independent country it would be the 13th largest in area, about 10% bigger than Mexico.


User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3037 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1916 times:

The A330-200 is exclusively used on the Greenland to Copenhagen services and not to the US...

I don't know all the politics, but Greenland is part of the Danish soveriegn and the country it has most dealling with. It is heavily reliant on Denmark - economically and hence why all the demand comes from there. Demanding a daily service.

The BWI service is only seasonal, running weekly with a 757-200 from Mid June to August, and purely flown as a tourist route.


User currently offlineBrisseDK From Denmark, joined Nov 2007, 383 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1909 times:



Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 12):
The A330-200 is exclusively used on the Greenland to Copenhagen

No, it is also used for charters.

Regards,
BJ



Frequent flyer based in CPH - mostly heading to: OSL, HEL, KEF, FAE and EWR
User currently offlineSQ6807 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2008, 163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1887 times:

Are flights from CPH to Greenland counted as international or domestic?

[Edited 2008-02-14 12:52:54]

User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24947 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1880 times:



Quoting SQ6807 (Reply 14):
Are flights from CPH to Denmark counted as international or domestic?

Well, considering CPH is the capital of Denmark  Wink



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User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1798 times:

Are Air Greenlands flight and cabiun crew genuine 'greenlanders' do hope so.

User currently offlineCaspritz78 From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 518 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1789 times:

With global warming Greenland will be the new tourist spot in the next couple years. No really. Most natives in Greenland are not thrilled about more tourists. The increase in cruise ships is already stretching the infrastructure.

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