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User currently offlineDL757FAN From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 33 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 11562 times:

DISCLAIMER: After years of lurking, this is my FIRST post so bare with me as I take this "addiction" to a whole new level   In addition, I searched for this topic and could not find any results.

Back to topic, due to my profession, I travel quite frequently for business (Gold Medallion with Delta). As I was on a flight from PHX-FLL via ATL, I noticed that all four F/A's (SLC based, middle aged women) on the PHX-ATL had poorly represented the newly (year or so ago) designed uniform (which is very fashionable...IMO).

I could get into exact details but my question is: Does Delta have a standard protocol on how F/A's wear uniforms? If so, does Delta have "fashion police" who from time to time monitor the flight attendants?

My primary concern for a F/A is to provide safety to the passengers aboard but if you are going to wear this newly designed uniform, wouldn't you wear it with pride?

[Edited 2008-02-13 13:46:48]

[Edited 2008-02-13 13:46:59]

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User currently offlineCOalways From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 368 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11520 times:

Alot of the DL Flight Attendants are not happy with mangement at DL, So y give pride. Spoke to a couple of DL FAs and there not Fond of the mangement team at all of how they are always changing rules and getttin over worked. Hopeful they can get a union in and that would put a end to most of the issues they have with there mangement.

User currently offlineWindowSeat From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1312 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11499 times:

Welcome to A.net! Glad to have another Delta fan on this website  Smile

I have always wondered why only some wear the full red uniform and most others wear the dark blue/black uniforms. can someone answer?

cheers
WindowSeat.



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User currently offlineWindowSeat From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1312 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11470 times:



Quoting COalways (Reply 1):
Alot of the DL Flight Attendants are not happy with mangement at DL, So y give pride. Spoke to a couple of DL FAs and there not Fond of the mangement team at all of how they are always changing rules and getttin over worked. Hopeful they can get a union in and that would put a end to most of the issues they have with there mangement.

Welcome to A.net. A 'couple' of F/As do not constitute the majority of Delta's flight attendants. If the majority do have their peeves with the management, why, then, do the Delta Flight Attendants vote year after year to stay non union. I would like you to back your statements please.

cheers
WindowSeat.



I'm all in favour of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with keyboards.
User currently offlineKlkla From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 939 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11451 times:

When introduced I thought the new red uniforms looked really nice but you rarely see any of their flight attendants wearing them. I remember once on a layover in SLC a beautiful blonde FA wearing the red uniform walked by a group of somewhat frumpy looking FAs in the more casual blue with red trim version of the uniform and the look they gave her was... well, if looks could kill she would have died right on the spot. It seems there is some resistance on the part of most of Delta's FAs to wear the new bright red uniform. I have no idea why, hopefully someone that works for Delta will enlighten us.

User currently offlineJrlander From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11330 times:



Quoting Klkla (Reply 4):
When introduced I thought the new red uniforms looked really nice but you rarely see any of their flight attendants wearing them. I remember once on a layover in SLC a beautiful blonde FA wearing the red uniform walked by a group of somewhat frumpy looking FAs in the more casual blue with red trim version of the uniform and the look they gave her was... well, if looks could kill she would have died right on the spot. It seems there is some resistance on the part of most of Delta's FAs to wear the new bright red uniform. I have no idea why, hopefully someone that works for Delta will enlighten us.

Hmmm... My Delta flights in this last year have all had flight attendants wearing the new red uniform. If I'm not mistaken, there is also a navy version of the same dress?


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4455 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11362 times:

I disagree. Here is a picture of DL FA's after a 9+ hr. flight JFK-IST, smiling and in great looking uniforms.


User currently offlineDL757FAN From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11289 times:

Those must not be SLC based flight attendants  Wink


Joking aside, my intent of this post was not to generalize the entire Delta F/A pool but to inquire on Delta's Uniform Policy. Any responders?


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12123 posts, RR: 49
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11285 times:
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Also you have to remember the red dress only goes up to size 12 or 14.


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlinePlaneFreaknATL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 11247 times:

I actually like the red uniforms, so bold and different - I wish more would wear it, I haven't had any flights yet with them wearing the red ones.

User currently offlineJetdude From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 11171 times:

Back in "the day" we used to have to meet with a supervisor for every check in, which included an appearance check, but those days are long gone.

This issue goes to most US carriers. Since weight restrictions left years ago and FAs became more "natural" it has become increasingly difficult to "police" these groups of up to 10,000 per company.

In addition it is REALLY hard to come up with a uniform that all body types look good in!!

I know where I flew for many years it seemed like most supervisors weren't willing to agrue with the "nasty" FAs about how they looked.

I was always pressed and with a tie, but not everyone takes their appearance as seriously as others.

When I was a FA instructor and manager of Training I always stressed the importance of "if you want respect, you must look the part", but again, not everyone believes that.

So, to answer your questions, the FA supervisors would be the "police" of the uniform.


User currently offlineTCT From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 11075 times:

As many have mentioned I aswell have never seen a DL FA in the new uniform, when it comes to airlines and their uniforms, United States based airlines are usually not so strict about the way their FA's look, I think since the crew on an aircraft is representing the airline they need to not only give pax the best service, but also look sleek,clean, and sophisticated, which usually lacks in US airlines. I fly CO,DL,US, and AA every year and not once have I seen a FA looking presentable, Usually their hair is messed up, overall they look like they just woke up, I understand how hard their jobs must be but you can't let that show, however when I board a non-US based airline, WOW do those woman look nice, especially AF FA's they can be a bit snobby, but always look clean,profesianel, and hot  Wink. Sorry for being off topic for a bit,but anyway the new red DL uniforms look really nice and I wish all the DL FA's looked like the one in the red at the top, look at her after 9+ hour flight, shes still lookin put together.

User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 11058 times:



Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 8):
Also you have to remember the red dress only goes up to size 12 or 14.

Thank God!

I do think the new uniform looks great.. However, I think the flight attendant makes the uniform, not the other way around. The darker colors are certainly much better suited to the larger F/As.

That will probably get me flamed.


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12123 posts, RR: 49
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 11036 times:
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Quoting TCT (Reply 11):
I fly CO,DL,US, and AA every year and not once have I seen a FA looking presentable, Usually their hair is messed up, overall they look like they just woke up, I understand how hard their jobs must be but you can't let that show, however when I board a non-US based airline, WOW do those woman look nice,

I'm sorry that is a very big generalization! I just flew CO CLE-IAH-CZM-IAH-CLE and all flights the ladies as well as the men were dressed professionally, well groomed and wore the uniform with pride. Now that being said yes it does seem like the foreign carriers place a greater emphasises on appearance and looks.



You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineAA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2389 posts, RR: 26
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 10943 times:



Quoting TCT (Reply 11):
United States based airlines are usually not so strict about the way their FA's look,

Welcome to the United States where sueing is a national sport.

If an airline manager says anything to an employee about their uniform they will get a quick warning about how they are being "discriminated against". I have seen it time and time again. The excuses I have heard are "I am African-American", or "Are you saying I am fat?", or "Are you saying I am too old?". This coming from a supervisor close friend of mine who would come home telling me his day at the office. And if you hire all good looking, fit, employees, it is to obvious and you Will have a lawsuit on your hands in no time. Sad world we live.  Sad



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User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 10945 times:

I rarely come across an ugly/overweight Delta flight attendant. I would say 1 out of 10? that I get might be a little on the chubby side. On ATL-RIC Monday I was so impressed at how our three flight attendants looked. Each one was really beautiful with a great attitude and I thought that it was a great representation of Delta. None of them wore a uniform. Even from ATL-MIA last week we had a flight attendant, a little bit older, who's hair was all down her back. But she put it up nicely in a little bun at the top and let it hang. It looked good. None of my F/A's wore the red dress but I have had plenty others that have. One time a saw a black F/A board the plane in the new red dress with the hat, it looked awesome. Classy.


The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineDL757FAN From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 10891 times:

Jetdude - Thank you for the response.

I have seen numerous F/A's with the red dress and they do look classy and sleek...not to forget the men's getup (coat, red tie, and slacks) have a contemporary feel to them (not bland and cheap looking).

As I work with clients, it would be highly frowned upon (by the client and the company I am representing) to dress with my shirt half tucked, tie half loosened, and my slacks wrinkled and un-pressed. Although Delta is my carrier of choice, these F/A's did a fairly poor job representing the company.

On a side note, are the F/A's based in SLC high on senority? Most of the F/A's I have encountered on board based in ATL, NYC, and CVG are fairly younger looking. Since I am originally from Utah, I have noticed most of the SLC F/A's are pushing 45+.

[Edited 2008-02-13 16:43:27]

User currently offlineSxf24 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 10842 times:



Quoting DL757FAN (Reply 17):
On a side note, are the F/A's based in SLC high on senority? Most of the F/A's I have encountered on board based in ATL, NYC, and CVG are fairly younger looking. Since I am originally from Utah, I have noticed most of the SLC F/A's are pushing 45+.

Yes, very.


User currently onlineSkyTeamTriStar From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 394 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 10696 times:

When DL employees' started to showcase their new-digs, so many of them, F/A included, appeared to love the new feel 'n look. Some F/A even walked down the aisle displaying their hand-bag, they were just so proud to wear a world-class looking uniform.

The feeling has worn off? (like most things in life)


User currently offlineKriegerkaiser From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 10677 times:

The uniforms look good!

User currently offlineA380US From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 10619 times:



Quoting DL757FAN (Reply 7):
Those must not be SLC based flight attendants Wink

No there definatley JFK based..... NOT !11



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User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1483 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 10615 times:

Lets start off by saying that I am a DL flight attendant. 23, male and straight....just so maybe you can relate to my point of view better.

Quoting DL757FAN (Thread starter):
Back to topic, due to my profession, I travel quite frequently for business (Gold Medallion with Delta). As I was on a flight from PHX-FLL via ATL, I noticed that all four F/A's (SLC based, middle aged women) on the PHX-ATL had poorly represented the newly (year or so ago) designed uniform (which is very fashionable...IMO).

I could get into exact details but my question is: Does Delta have a standard protocol on how F/A's wear uniforms? If so, does Delta have "fashion police" who from time to time monitor the flight attendants?

There are supervisors that conduct random appearance checks, however you cant catch everyone.

Quoting COalways (Reply 1):
Alot of the DL Flight Attendants are not happy with mangement at DL, So y give pride. Spoke to a couple of DL FAs and there not Fond of the mangement team at all of how they are always changing rules and getttin over worked. Hopeful they can get a union in and that would put a end to most of the issues they have with there mangement.

Most of the flight attendants that have these complaints have no idea what real work is. They have been used to getting 60-70 dollars an hour to open coke cans...they hate change, also remember most of them are eligible to join AARP.

Quoting WindowSeat (Reply 3):
Welcome to A.net. A 'couple' of F/As do not constitute the majority of Delta's flight attendants. If the majority do have their peeves with the management, why, then, do the Delta Flight Attendants vote year after year to stay non union. I would like you to back your statements please.

Right, a majority of flight attendants are ok, some are not...dont ask me the percentage.

Quoting Klkla (Reply 4):
When introduced I thought the new red uniforms looked really nice but you rarely see any of their flight attendants wearing them. I remember once on a layover in SLC a beautiful blonde FA wearing the red uniform walked by a group of somewhat frumpy looking FAs in the more casual blue with red trim version of the uniform and the look they gave her was... well, if looks could kill she would have died right on the spot. It seems there is some resistance on the part of most of Delta's FAs to wear the new bright red uniform. I have no idea why, hopefully someone that works for Delta will enlighten us.

Awesome, thats what i wanna hear!!!!!!


Here is something for all of you to consider.

The most junior person in SLC has approximately 20 years of seniority....give or take a year or 2. Which means that they are at least 43 years of age, the median age is probably around 50-53. Now do you really think that most of these people give a rats a** about fashion or anything remotely close to that? No. They are here to open their coke cans and get their 41 dollars per hour, some are nice to passengers and some are not. Delta has finally started hiring again and the first class graduated today, hopefully I will be able to work with individuals less that 15 years older than me.

The uniforms look good, they even make you look better than you are if you have the right attitude and are willing to go with it. Some people are just a lost cause. Obviously these uniforms were not made to be worn by the average 60 year old so there are some people wearingthe red dress that really should not. As for the rest that just choose not to follow company guidelines and look presentable, well they just dont give rats a** and are just here for the paycheck.

I hope I answered many questions and I also hope I did not offend anyone, however thats how it is...and not just here at DL, but at many other US airlines!


Fly safe!


User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 10569 times:



Quoting OOer (Reply 22):

Please tell your fellow F/A's that people love the hats! Make a statement! Wear the hats! Classy!



The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineRainbird From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 10538 times:



Quoting OOer (Reply 22):

The most junior FA in SLC has about 10 years of service with the company. The median seniority in SLC is about 23 years. This is from a base size of about 750 FA's.


User currently offlineBreaker1011 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 938 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 10528 times:

Let's see the guys wear em too - do the fellas have hats?

Funny story - one of your stereotypical "glass half full" FA's on a flight I was on when the new uniforms were first released, was walking behind another FA in the first class cabin, midflight. She complained to the FA walking in front of her "what were they (mgmt) thinking - we are here work-ing, not modeling." What an attitude she said it with, and to say within clear and easy earshot of her customers was unacceptable.

So the guy across the aisle from me hears this like I did, and says "Excuse me, miss - you know, I think the rest of the crew looks great in these new 'getups.' And by the way, if you are really working and not just complaining about your job, why don't I have the gin and tonic I asked you for 15 minutes ago?"

I GUFFAWED silently of course. There's one in every bunch I'm sure.



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25 Kriegerkaiser : Hahahahah! I would have laughed out loud right in her face. Good one.
26 N1120A : I thought that they changed that. You speak to which you don't know
27 Breaker1011 : She was pretty embarassed. But managed to eek out a hair flip and a giggle and brought his G&T. Didnt see her much the rest of the trip - the whole c
28 Bond007 : Yeah, I'm not one to generalize, but ... take a look around at a US airport that has international flights, and check out the flight attendants. The
29 AA767400 : As a Flight Attendant myself I think I know how the programs works. Lawsuits, and a very old work group are why U.S. airlines have the Flight Attenda
30 N1120A : You are a flight attendant. I have a law degree and work for an employment law firm. That is the difference.
31 Post contains images Bond007 : Oh Yes, I agree with you My 'take a look' comment was directed at those reading my comment ... not you. Jimbo
32 Breaker1011 : Now I'm sure you didn't mean that in a spiteway way N1120A. I do not see why you are poking at AA767 here. I believe he's 100% correct and can't see
33 N1120A : Nothing spiteful about it. I take issue when people perpetuate false stereotypes and half-truths. Well, you haven't been here that long, so I am goin
34 Post contains images AA767400 : I am glad you pointed out the difference. Ok, just wanted to be on the same book here. Thank you for understanding and insight.
35 Post contains images Breaker1011 : Last time I checked, my tenure on A-net wasn't correlative to my intelligence and insight to meaningful worldly affairs, so thanks for the benefit of
36 AA767400 : Civil rights? This is an airline business that needs to make money. If you look sloppy at work and can't uphold to the airline's standard, then you s
37 FlyguyPBI : OK, that just made me wince! 45+? Buddy it's all about what flight you are on. PLENTY of my colleagues are, um, well, errrrrrr way past 45. I'm 25 ye
38 Bond007 : Perhaps then you can explain WHY he/she is wrong, rather than telling us your qualifications. You're telling us if an airline only hires good looking
39 Rbgso : Note to self - go ahead and make that JFK-IST run someday...............
40 AWACSooner : Holee carp! Those look like something out of the 1930's flapper girl era.
41 Rbgso : I'm PM with Delta, and for me it is rare to see a FA under 30 on any mainline flight. In fact, most of the FAs on my flights in the past 3 years or s
42 Manfredj : Then find another job! Then we need to look to the 70's and 80's to see what REAL uniforms look like. They look like Wal Mart models in baggy clothin
43 KangarooMAN : Wow Evan767 would have loved to be on that flight none of them wearing a uniform hehe!! Roo
44 Delta11 : SLC was open prior to 9/11 for FA transfers .Even thou it is a very senior base, it does have some newer F/A's mid 1980, remember that starting March
45 IAirAllie : I fly Delta alot and have elite status on them. Most if not all the FA's I've seen look great in their uniforms and wear them well. It's nice that uni
46 N1120A : Because employment litigation isn't what created protections for employees, legislatures concerned with civil rights did. Of course there will be a l
47 Bond007 : Actually he is dead right. As for spouting off professions, I hire people, I fire people, and this happens time and time again. My lawyer even disagr
48 N1120A : If they have no discriminatory intent, they shouldn't have a problem at all. The real world involves a lot of discrimination, unfortunately. On the o
49 Post contains images Bond007 : Oh, no Maybe 'work for' the FAA ... but not employed by them. Jimbo
50 Etops1 : hey!! i met that cute delta f/a in the read dress on reply# 6 on a layover in barcelona. we had a goood time. usairways and delta stay at the same hot
51 Ryanair!!! : When unions were created at the start of the industrialisation era, it was mean to be out of good will for the protection of employees. But seriously
52 AA767400 : I find that very hard to believe so until you have some proof to what you state then it really does not count. Excuse me? Don't be coy now, let's rer
53 EmiratesA345 : I agree with this 100%. I'm a bus driver and always wear my uniform with pride. It's always pressed, clean and completed with the company tie. I've f
54 Canada Mike : Part of the problem for supervisors is what to do even when they do notice an infraction. Many airline crew rooms will have an ironing board, iron, an
55 Post contains images Ryanair!!! : So what you are saying is that it is excuseable for those FAs to look like crap because of operational constraints? Try pulling this excuse over at S
56 Smi0006 : Hey guys, Speaking as a former QFlink FA, I think that the whole issue here is not on how good looking one is but how much importance one places on gr
57 PRAirbus : Take a look at AA FA's they look AWFUL and management does not check for compliance or cares. The same might be going on at Delta to a lesser extent.
58 SQ772 : I'm always amazed by the fact that our SQ girls/boys or NH/JL crew manage to look as refreshed, without a strand of hair out of place from the moment
59 FlyboyOz : Yes...most asian airlines such as JL, ANA & SQ want the female cabin crew must be very professional. They were trained how to make themselves look bea
60 N1120A : You think more than a tiny fraction of those fired sue? You have got to be kidding me. My firm rejects over 90% of the people who come in to our offi
61 David21487 : Every DL flight attendant I've seen looks fine in the uniform, and being a gate agent, I've seen a lot of them. There are of course those that aren't
62 Post contains images Travatl : I fly for AirTran, and I only get $38/hr to pop my coke cans! Well, I'll be at $42/hr by next year, and I don't have anywhere near 20 years.
63 Smi0006 : Hey I'm male and straight so I never wore the dress lol, but the QantasLink uniform is the same as the mainline except a slightly different colour, i
64 TCT : WHAT, they really train them on how to sleep properly, wtf?, thats going a little to far when it comes to cabin training.
65 EvilForce : "Only"? Ugh! My god the thing shouldn't go above a size 8. Obese flight attendants are a safety hazard IMHO. If you need bigger than a size 8.....F I
66 Travatl : Since when did 12 or 14 become OBESE? Idiot. From (ONE) personal experience I can attest, it's not. As a joke one year for halloween, I decided to go
67 EvilForce : You had to wear a size 14 because you're a dude. Not the same there sporto.
68 Post contains links and images EvilForce : Size 16 woman. 163 lbs. = BMI of 31 = Obese by CDC standards. Size 8 woman. 125 lbs = BMI of 20.2 = Normal weight
69 AA767400 : Source/Figures? Because you are going by what your firm deals with. I find a Law firm, that is ALWAYS ready for an excuse to make a case would reject
70 Klkla : Hmmm... Just flew LAX-JFK-GRU and not one of the FA's wore the new uniform. I did not see any at either of the airports. Your post was enlightening.
71 Travatl : My point, SPORTO, is that if I'm taking up the same space as a girl in a size 14 is, how does that make either one of us a safety hazard?
72 Post contains links and images EvilForce : Frankly, I think the US uniforms are made to be unobjectionable to everyone (aka dull) and created to hide the wearer's body rather than flatter it.
73 Post contains links and images EvilForce : I didn't say you were a safety hazard. But an obese flight attendant is. By the way you look pretty good in a F/A uniform. Not the prettiest one I've
74 Travatl : My hair's not that light, and I'm definitely taller.....
75 OOer : You want a metal or a cookie?
76 Post contains images Travatl : Well, I wanted a cookie, but we lost Midwest to TPG......
77 Sh0rtybr0wn : Haha... The Original poster's question was about wearing the uniform with pride, not about how good FAs look in their underwear. The thin woman could
78 Travatl : Oh, they're out there, and bigger.
79 Post contains images GayStudPilot : EvilForce... forget the females in underwear.... where are the photos of pilots in underwear? We all seem to be focused on the "look." And I agree wit
80 FlyboyOz : Oh...Thanks for answering my question and letting me know who you are. Yes, I am male and straight as well. LOL! Remember, a french cabin crew stripp
81 Sh0rtybr0wn : Cant be much bigger than that.
82 Post contains images EvilForce : Prove it. Pics please. You may email those to my personal acct. if you prefer. Using your guidelines, underwear clad photos preferred Stud.
83 Post contains images EvilForce : You haven't flown NWA or DL lately have you? I was on a flight from NWA this week..... I thought it was being staffed by Oompa Loompas.
84 GayStudPilot : Let me guess, you're straight but appreciate a nice male physique. LOL
85 DALelite : I think that DL did the right thing on on hand, to tell the world that they are getting new uniforms. They presented their new uniforms at the New Yor
86 Pa747sp : To answer your question, every airline I have worked for has had a uniform policy. It is usually very precise, and covers not only the way the uniform
87 GayStudPilot : Unfortunately the FAs were given the frumpy option: blouse, vest, pants. I have seen several, mostly outside the US, wearing the suit... blouse, skirt
88 DALelite : i agree, the turtleneck pullover looks very good on the male FA's. Also once saw a female grownd worker at TPA wearing similar uniform in very dark b
89 Post contains images EvilForce : Yup. Although I'm still disappointed that the Air New Zealand boys no longer have to wear the merino wool pants from Zambesi. Those were very nice. A
90 GayStudPilot : uummm, do you mean the pants looked... g-a-y?? Agree. As well as most of the staff. That's where I usually stay in NYC when traveling for pleasure. B
91 Post contains links GayStudPilot : Hold it, you mean these trousers? May have missed your point. http://www.airnz.co.nz/aboutus/media...rnz_unveils_new_uniform_photos.htm http://www.nzh
92 GayStudPilot : BTW, BA used to have a male FA uniform with light gray trousers. Rumor was the color and fit caused some of the lads to be uncomfortable with their VP
93 Airnewzealand : Qantas has recently introduced this policy also! Only difference is they may go down a size but not up. Cheers.
94 GayStudPilot : Does Qantas have weight limits for cabin crew?
95 Post contains links TCT : I did some research this is what I found, states nothing about weight,only height. http://www.qantascabincrewuk.com/employment.html
96 GayStudPilot : Thanks. So appears they are using uniform size to get around weight limits.
97 Smi0006 : I'm curious on everyones thoughts on the SQ look, the uniform it's is nice (except the shoes) but the girls... they are so overly made up I dont belie
98 Post contains links and images FlyboyOz : Ah right...Yeah, I have seen that lots of QF flight attendants are fat. However, there are some beefy male flight attendant working on QF as well. Do
99 TCT : Not really, I must say she does look a little scary too much white around the eyes, dark lips, a bit Halloweenish, just my opinion.
100 IAirAllie : 10,12,14 Are hardly obese. I've worked with FA's larger than a 14 who do their job just fine if not better than your average fa. I have no concerns a
101 GayStudPilot : Agree. I have seen a lot more SQ FAs that look really good. However, even with the harsh makeup choices, Wendy doesn't have a lot out of place and is
102 David21487 : The DL flight attendants in reply 72 don't look "frumpy" and those are real flight attendants who just finished a 9 hour work day, not models or flig
103 COEI2007 : I think in general, US based carriers arent as strict about grooming as European/Asian carriers. A lot of the US carriers uniforms are kind of frumpy
104 Sh0rtybr0wn : That bugs me too. While in China on Dragonair, Air China and China Eastern; not only did the FAs wear exactly the same Uniform, their hair was pulled
105 GayStudPilot : I was not referring to the photo of the DL FAs. Can we PLEASE start comparing photos of HOT pilots?? LOL
106 Burj : Um...unless you have some pictures you want to share this could be hard as most airline PR material I've seen concentrate on the cabin crew. To be ho
107 Post contains images Ryanair!!! : Yay to that too... Hmm... Add me to the list of request for a pic of you in your underwear.
108 Post contains images GayStudPilot : Of course I've noticed the young pups!
109 Post contains images AznMadSci : Me too!!!
110 FlyboyOz : Hahaha! No...it was bright sky blue around her eyes. Lots of asians girls love to have bright blue around their eyes. I think Wendy needs to make mor
111 FlyboyOz : Geeez...it has been somewhere in a.net last month...bad luck for you - you miss out
112 Post contains images QantasAirways : This Singapore Girl looks pretty natural to me... And this isn't a promo pic.. On the times I've flown with Qantas, their staff grooming has always be
113 Post contains images GayStudPilot : #4 and #5 from left and far right.
114 N1120A : Trust me on this, there is more than enough work to go around. Small firms make up the vast majority of plaintiff litigators generally, and particula
115 Smi0006 : You are quite right it was a rather terrible generalisation I admit, however if you refer to the SQ girls in the photo at the biginning, the ones wit
116 QantasAirways : Oh haha sorry, I wasn't referring to your comment.. But yes, I've flown a few SQ flights and seen the clown eye-makeup that appears in the earlier ph
117 Ryanair!!! : A lot of the junior crew tend to have the "clown" make up as they have not yet learnt to moderate how much to apply. The more senior they get, you se
118 Post contains links and images CAMPBELL : A tribute to the Delta Flight Attendants, the best in the business. First Delta Flight: December 1965 at 8 weeks old (CAE-SFO) Last Delta Flight: Apr
119 Burj : What? Sorry I'm afraid I don't understand what you are saying in this post. Are you refering to another post? (Sorry if I am being obtuse).
120 Smi0006 : Ahh I see lol, is Melbourne trips rather junior? We had a very similar guide at QF with the same detailed guide lines, at regional we had the record
121 Ryanair!!! : The thing about SQ is that, it doesn't matter how senior or junior you are - you will still get to fly where everyone is going to. Therefore, these "
122 Acidradio : Those ads bring me back to a time when flying was celebrated, not just a tolerated means of travel. When it was special. "Joyce says flying is like g
123 Klkla : The photos you chose to compare are not fair. The photo of the Delta employees are an amateur snap shot, the others are official marketing photos cho
124 SQ772 : Just want to clarify that non of the SQ FA photos posted in this thread were from any marketing material. These were obviously taken my amateurs durin
125 Post contains images Ryanair!!! : Go ahead and convince yourself that you live in the real world.
126 Post contains images Luv2cattlecall : Holy crap, gumshoe, you found Carmen SAN! In my experience, the new uniforms look great. I especially like the darker blue outfits with the red pocket
127 Post contains images AznMadSci : You found her and the Chief too, and they're together!
128 Klkla : If you have something intelligent to say then say it. These kind of responses that contain only insults and nothing that disputes what I have said ar
129 Ryanair!!! : Once again, like I said..... Geez... Lighten up, will ya? The airline industry is one that is very image conscious, like it or not. No one is stoppin
130 B767300ER : As a NYC DL based F/A who flys out of JFK when we sign in for our flights there is usually a flight supervisor on duty who will "correct" any dress in
131 Smi0006 : This is a terribly complex issue with so many different factors that need to be taken into account in regard to appearance and perceptions. In my opi
132 Klkla : Your lack of respect for people that grow older in society is very sad and again you have nothing intelligent to add to the conversation. Not all old
133 Luv2fly : I have to agree, though in the end professional is both a look and a mindset.
134 Ryanair!!! : Alright there... I know people grow old. It is all about growing old with grace and poise, especially in a position that calls for it. All I see now
135 Luv2cattlecall : At first, I thought you were going a bit over the line..but upon re-reading, I definitely agree. One flight attendant for FL, who seemed to really en
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