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Continental-United Merger Talks Begin PT 2.  
User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 10268 times:

Continuing the discussion from this thread, Continental-United Merger Talks Begin (by MKE22 Feb 7 2008 in Civil Aviation)

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User currently offlineBicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 10203 times:

This potential merger makes sense to me. But it will be likely based on the financials and not irrelevant issues like fleet commonality, location of headquarters, number of hubs, etc. It has got to be good for the investors and shareholders or it won't fly.

User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16812 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 10154 times:



Quote:
United Airlines and Continental are in advanced negotiations and could complete a combination quickly if Delta and Northwest strike a deal, according to a person familiar with the negotiations.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i...OHDIgS_68-hMtfVgfUHpewh-gD8UQCSR00



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User currently offlineMeta From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 337 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 10155 times:



Quoting Bicoastal (Reply 1):
This potential merger makes sense to me.

Especially now that DL-NW has happened, I think there is an extremely high chance that CO and UA will merge. These two airlines are going to want to stay competitive and need to merge to stay alive.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16812 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 10131 times:

Question:

CO just moved into gates at Terminal A in BOS, will they be able to accommodate all of CO's existing traffic and UAL at the gates CO is currently using at BOS's Terminal A?



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User currently offlineSCCutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5488 posts, RR: 28
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 10124 times:

I liked Mike Boyd's comment- "This is the airline industry, not the junior prom," he said. "Everybody doesn't need a date."

Some carriers need a combination more than others, and CO, while being open to an advantageous combination, does not need one.

If there is a combination of the two, the united (lower-case "u") airline, Continental, will have many challenges to deal with, both internal and external, and they will burn a lot of midnight oil, at their world HQ in the oil capital of the world, Houston, over them.



...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2490 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 10100 times:

Didn't see this continuation but still have something to add:


UA-CO Talks Progressing; UA-DL Not Ruled Out (by 777fan Feb 14 2008 in Civil Aviation)


777fan



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21474 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 10089 times:

United Continental Airlines (UCA) has a nice ring to it. Carries the meaning of an airline that unites the continents of the world (except Africa...), and continues the legacy of both brands.

Not every merger needs to have one name go bye-bye.



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User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2490 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 10069 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):
United Continental Airlines (UCA) has a nice ring to it.

I'm guessing they'd prefer to stick with a single-word name. Tough to do with either or a combination of both as many have pointed out in the past.

How about just "Unite"? Better yet: "Uno"!


777fan



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User currently offlineMX757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 628 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9802 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):
United Continental Airlines (UCA)



Quoting 777fan (Reply 8):
How about just "Unite"? Better yet: "Uno"!

How about UNI-CAL?  bouncy 



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21474 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 9675 times:



Quoting 777fan (Reply 8):
I'm guessing they'd prefer to stick with a single-word name.

United is actually kind of a generic name. Continental as well. I've never been a fan of either name. United what? States of America? Arab Emirates? Kingdom? Auto Workers? It's the kind of name that sounds good when you first use it, but you tend to drop it later. USA or America. UAE. UK. UAW. Because United, taken by itself, is devoid of meaning. Continental made sense when it was a domestic airline. Now, it makes little sense.

There are precedents for longer names having value.

Pan American Airways became known as PanAm because it was easier.

Trans World Airlines became known as TWA because it was easier.

Many airlines become known by their initials. BMI, JAL, ANA, LTU, LOT, etc.

There is no reason the new carrier can't be "United Continental Airlines" but use "UCA" for branding. And United Continental has more meaning than either word alone. It indicates what is being united, the continents.  Smile

There is a ring to UCA, much like UTA had a ring to it. CUA doesn't roll off the tongue the same way.

And of course none of this matters because they will likely choose one name or the other...  Wink



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9587 times:

Well having just got into work this morning and fired up the computer and read the comments made in the Chicago Tiribune, it more or less confirms what a lot have people have been thinking/saying on here or in the other real world for some time...UA, could and possibly will be the main player here and take over CO, assuming the DL/NW deal comes to fruition.
Sure a lot of people want to think that Tilton wants to take his money and run, whose to say he wont, after a deal is done. He could negotiate a very good compensation package.
UA are very much NOT a company at the moment looking to sell out and stand still.....They have a wad of cash, they have a new International product being introduced which to all intents and purposes has had a very positive response and leads the way for US carriers, they have just unveiled a new premium lobby at O'Hare for top tier flyers ( A first in the US) which I am sure will spread to other hubs, they have succesfully introduced P.S on transcontinental routes.....all this is not an airline thats standing still with a big "For Sale " sign out the window. I think a few people might just be surprised with what happens here.
One parting point, is that some UA staff that I have spoken to this week are quietly excited about a tie up with CO, as they recognise they do have a good solid management team, and a good product as well, and combining the two could make for a formidable carrier.
Just dont be surprised if that carrier is based in Chicago, named United but with Larry running the show.
Time will tell.


User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9584 times:

Oh and I forgot to mention that new uniforms are being modelled throughout the system by various FA's etc as well at the moment.

User currently offlineKonrad From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 522 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9559 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 10):
LOT

Actually the name LOT is not initials. The word stands for "flight" in Polish. Nice and short.


User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2490 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 9485 times:



Quoting UAL777UK (Reply 11):
UA, could and possibly will be the main player here and take over CO

UA won't be "taking over" CO - it'd be a merger. Big difference.

Quoting UAL777UK (Reply 11):
Just dont be surprised if that carrier is based in Chicago, named United but with Larry running the show.

Frankly, I would be surprised if it were based in Chicago - there are huge tax advantages to HQing a company in Texas. As a native Chicagoan, I'd be sad to see UA go, but would understand why they'd leave given the State of Illinois' economic situation. Taxes in Chicago are out of control, too.


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User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 9454 times:



Quoting 777fan (Reply 14):
Frankly, I would be surprised if it were based in Chicago - there are huge tax advantages to HQing a company in Texas. As a native Chicagoan, I'd be sad to see UA go, but would understand why they'd leave given the State of Illinois' economic situation. Taxes in Chicago are out of control, too.

And do you honestly think that Chicago would not offer UA big tax breaks to stay in Chicago. They bent over backwards to keep UA in Chicago a year or so ago, hence the new downtown office on Wacker. Don't assume they wont do it again.


User currently offlineUnitedTristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 9444 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 10):
There is no reason the new carrier can't be "United Continental Airlines" but use "UCA" for branding. And United Continental has more meaning than either word alone. It indicates what is being united, the continents. Smile

How about "Continental United National Transport" and we can just use its initials and call it CU...wait....never mind!  rotfl   rotfl 

-m

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User currently offlinePHX Flyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 542 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9370 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 10):
Trans World Airlines became known as TWA because it was easier.

False, or at least not quite correct. The acronym 'TWA' is much older than 'Trans World Airlines'. Because 'TWA was so well known, it was much easier to introduce 'Trans World Airlines' in the 1950s (God bless Howard Hughes for that).
Before than the airline's official name was Transcontinental & Western Airlines. (Sorry, somewhat of off topic, but every once in a while I have to place a plug for my all time favorite airline  Smile )


User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6441 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9357 times:



Quoting Meta (Reply 3):
Especially now that DL-NW has happened, I think there is an extremely high chance that CO and UA will merge. These two airlines are going to want to stay competitive and need to merge to stay alive

When was this announced? Did I miss it?

Quoting 777fan (Reply 14):
UA won't be "taking over" CO - it'd be a merger. Big difference

There has never been an airline merger, One airline has always taken over another airline.


User currently offlineSCCutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5488 posts, RR: 28
Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9270 times:

Reality-check time, here.

United has lots of history, and is big- really big.

What United has not got is any kind of recent record of operational success.

If UAL had the corporate will and, more importantly, the capable management, to grow itself, it would. But it hasn't, and its management are smart enough to, at least, recognize that. What to do? Acquire, or combine with, some.

Continental has what UAL needs- a model of unusually good service (especially in the north American marketplace), and a motivated and effective workforce. But no one rationally believes you can just "buy" that- won't work, never has, never will.

Airline combinations (whether they are mergers or acquisitions) rarely work. If this particular combination is to work, it will require stellar execution by management and commitment from the field troops.

Is there any rational person who, for the briefest moment, believes that UAL's management can deliver that execution, or merit that commitment. Not a chance.

CO's current position, a strong operator with motivated people, is the result of a fundamental shift in the way the business was operated and, most particularly, in the way the people who make up the airline are treated. Continental's management know how to do that, have earned trust and respect, and that level of trust cannot be assigned or delegated.

If Continental and United are to combine, it will be with Continental's management, and it will be based in Houston. It would be utter folly to suggest otherwise.



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6865 posts, RR: 63
Reply 20, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9175 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):
United Continental Airlines (UCA) has a nice ring to it.

It had to happen sooner or later. I agree with you!  wideeyed 

"United Continental" has a rather classy ring to it. It also sounds a little old-fashioned ... or do I mean 'retro'? Either way, it will stand out in the market.

And "UCA" is strangely close to "USA" for those who might still crave some nationalistic association.

Yes - United Continental. I have to give you that one!  highfive 


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16812 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9166 times:



Quoting UAL777UK (Reply 15):


Quoting 777fan (Reply 14):
Frankly, I would be surprised if it were based in Chicago - there are huge tax advantages to HQing a company in Texas. As a native Chicagoan, I'd be sad to see UA go, but would understand why they'd leave given the State of Illinois' economic situation. Taxes in Chicago are out of control, too.

And do you honestly think that Chicago would not offer UA big tax breaks to stay in Chicago.

While Illinois might be able to offer incentives for the company, Texas also offers the advantage of no income tax. Even if the salaries were the same employees would make more money being headquartered in Texas as they would not have to pay State income tax, the employees would make more just by moving to Texas. Which is basically a raise without it costing the company a dime.



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13031 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9080 times:

The name United was due to it's founding as the combination/merger of some early airlines in the 1930's.
The HQ will go to Houston for cost of living and tax reasons. A lot cheaper than Chicago.
I do fear that the new company will go cheap as to pax service. I do hope they keep CO's standards on domestic flights.
Like AA does with it's A300's, I suspect UA's Airbus a/c's will be continued to be used but only on selected routes and service points to minimise problems.
I wonder if in the merger, service in the south Pacific, Australia would be expanded.
What name would be used? Each has their marketing strengths and weaknesses.
What would happen as to the Asian market flights (Japan, China) in the merger?
They could eliminate duplicate flights, like from EWR where UA has been a major airline there since the 1970's.
The merger wouldn't have too many overlaps of service as have different hubs and focus cities.


User currently offlineB752OS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9068 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 4):
Question:

CO just moved into gates at Terminal A in BOS, will they be able to accommodate all of CO's existing traffic and UAL at the gates CO is currently using at BOS's Terminal A?

It would be a VERY tight fit over in A if CO stays there and UA moves over from C as well. Right now I believe UA operates around 30 flights a day from BOS and add in CO which does at least 20. CO is getting 6 gates over in A and I don't believe the scheduling of the UA and CO flights would allow the 6 gates to handle all the flights. What I think may end up hapening is NW will be moving over to terminal A from their gates in terminal D and that way CO and UA can both stay together in terminal C.


User currently offlineAirportPlan From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 469 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9062 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 21):
While Illinois might be able to offer incentives for the company, Texas also offers the advantage of no income tax. Even if the salaries were the same employees would make more money being headquartered in Texas as they would not have to pay State income tax, the employees would make more just by moving to Texas. Which is basically a raise without it costing the company a dime.

If that is the case why did Boeing choose Chicago over Dallas for it's HQ? The Chicago metro area has more fortune 500 firms than Houston. There are many other factors that go into play when choosing a company HQ. But in this case I think that CO/UA will be HQed in Houston due to the fact that Larry and company live there.


25 102IAHexpress : What constitutes the Chicago metro area? How many counties and states? Who knows. But there's no disputing that the city of Houston is second only to
26 Ctermua : [ As a United employee I"d have to agree. Going from United management to ANY other management seems like a godsend. Continental has a good rep with i
27 LHR777 : ...with the full name of the carrier being 'Polskie Linie Lotnicze LOT'. The name Polskie Linie Lotnicze means "Polish Airlines" in Polish, while lot
28 COSPN : Chicago is just to expensive..................................................Houston Housing costs = Excessive.......................................
29 B752OS : I would not go as far as to say Chicago has poor infrastructure, they have a pretty darn good high way system and road system, in my mind, better tha
30 Avek00 : United has had plenty of operational success in recent years, with occasional hiccups like the December Debacle.
31 United787 : Housing Costs - Isn't as much of a concern to the Executives making the decisions. Transportation - Chicago has one of the best public transportation
32 RJ777 : Can they really name an airline the same as a school? UNO- University of New Orleans UNO- University of Nebraska-Omaha- GO MAVS! I'm a Maverick, so I
33 DC8FanJet : I'll admit that I haven't read all of the previous thread on this subject, but if it hasn't been mentioned, you can't forget about Lufthansa and Air C
34 COewrAAtysAZ : Of course they are, they are working for one of the country's worst airlines. The one that made history w/ their longest corporate bankruptcy ever. I
35 737DAB320 : The United brand is one of the most recognized brands in the world. A merged company would be foolish to give that up. If a merger happens with CO, IM
36 United1 : Agreed the way I see it is the name stays UA, COs Mgt takes over. As for where the HQ would be they will go with whatever city and state offer them t
37 Post contains images LHR777 : Like Newark or Cleveland, for example?
38 AirEMS : I don't know if you were referring to the Westminster Dog show winner but that is one cute dog!!!! Where would denver fit into this scheme?? would CO
39 Post contains images Rampart : Like Denver? Original home to CO, and former hub (x2 if including the old Frontier). Major UA presence. Therefore a neutral choice for both airlines.
40 Post contains images United1 : Naaa I was thinking Omaha... UA and CO have been dealing with LCCs operating in there hub markets for decades. DEN is more then likely safe as a hub
41 UAL777UK : Huh huh, that just about sums up, one of the dumbest postings today......congratulations! Take a history lesson and just have a look at what was goin
42 United1 : I didn't know that...I knew they used to be based at LAX but I never knew they had a HQ at DEN.
43 United1 : Agreed which is why I didn't even bother responding to it. I think my next door neighbor summed it up when he said "I love the idea of Larry running
44 COflyerBOS : As a 14 year loyal Continental flyer, this whole mergerpalooza fest has me concerned. I haven't flown United in years due to several HORRIBLE experien
45 DC8FanJet : One must be very careful in their words. Continental has been in Ch. 11 twice, should have been there the 3rd time but for Gordon's fast talking with
46 Devildog2222 : I have not read all of the post on this thread or the delta thread, but I was wondering what would happen to OO. Both UAL and DL use skywest. If UAL/C
47 FriendlySkies : It's funny...if I go back 12 years, I could flip this around on you and it would be true. Point is, the airline industry is constantly changing, CO i
48 Rampart : Yup. Prior to moving HQ to LA in the early 60s, CO was based in Denver. Even after they moved HQ to LA, Denver had an important presence, including t
49 Continental180 : god bless you!! i am i the same boat. I have been flying them for over 10 years as well, and have flown over a couple hundred thousand miles with the
50 FriendlySkies : Would you like to provide a source? Otherwise this doesn't really mean anything.
51 Post contains links and images CALMSP : this is great.................certainly hope to see these again!!!! View Large View MediumPhoto © Tim Rees
52 United1 : I always found it interesting how UA and CO both trace there founding back to Walter Varney. Very true theres a quote in "from worst to first" about
53 Post contains links Continental180 : http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...ua-feb14,0,3407037.story?track=rss as quoted: That's no longer an issue, say people familiar with the talks. C
54 B752OS : I think you can say, to each his own. I am a loyal UA flyer from Boston, as they fly non-stop to 3 of the cities I travel to most (ORD, SFO and LAX)
55 Continental180 : very true..the thing is though, and i completely understand that your a united fan, as for myself being a continental fanatic.. personally, i would p
56 United1 : Username: Continental180 Age: 16-20 So you've been fliing them loyally since you were 6-10 years old?...... So lets break down what you said.... 1. T
57 Continental180 : First off, this is a shared account between my family, primarly my son, who fits that age range. Not going to spend another 50 bucks if not needed. 2
58 SoBe : Are you serious? You want others to ask (insert your diety here) for divine intervention in a merger?
59 United1 : Not common sense at all in fact its being hotly debated on here. I have been lookin around and the one thing that people on this board seem to agree
60 Post contains links Highflier92660 : United...........Continental........ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Unocal_Logo.svg
61 United1 : " target=_blank>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:U...o.svg I love it, I wonder if if that means the new carrier gets a discount on gas?
62 Continental180 : trust me, i never hope this happens. and 2nd, they wouldnt have done it years ago. the only reason keller is doing this is becuase when delta and nwa
63 Continental180 : " target=_blank>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:U...o.svg oh god, lol. thats terrible.
64 Post contains images United1 : No trust or verification is necessary on that particular thought of yours. True I'll give you that point this is one of two things, in my opinion, ei
65 777fan : That's right STT757 - you beat me to it (I just got home from work)! Huuuuuuge advantage although personally, I'd still rather live in Chicago. Illin
66 NYC2theworld : I can hear it now in the departures area. "Attention passengers One Flight One is paging passenger Smith to immediately Gate C1; you flight is ready
67 CO777ER : " target=_blank>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:U...o.svg I have family that worked for UNOCAL before it was purchased by Chevron. Granted, it was
68 Continental180 : that would be stupid, no offense. but come on, if you have 2 airlines that are known worldwide, with a lot of money coming in, why would you change t
69 United1 : I can hear the advertising tag line now "We're #1....Literally" A new name would end our debate if nothing else, but it would also mean starting over
70 777fan : Honestly, I find your tale impossible to believe. Moreover, the fact that you had to pay "full price" with B6 is totally your fault since you made th
71 Continental180 : no, if you understood what i said was pick either continental or united, over a new name that would be stupid. from a marketing standpoint, you would
72 COSPN : If Real estate in the "Loop" is so great and cost effective why "split" the HQ ??? Big waste of money!! What are the Public Transportation Links Elk G
73 Post contains images United1 : So I have a question are we talking to the 16-20yo or the 36-45yo? cause your sounding like the former....and if it is I cant wait till I tell your D
74 Continental180 : Becuase it wouldnt be as well known as a United or continental! period. its common sense.
75 United1 : Pre BK UA agreed to move its HQ into the city of Chicago (a site on the north side of O'hare where they were going to build an entierly new complex)
76 United1 : ORD and the Loop are linked by the CTA Blue Line, and someone please correct me if my information is outdated, but at one point UA was running shuttl
77 Ikramerica : A look at the rail industry in the USA shows that sometimes mergers combine names, sometimes they just take the name of the dominant company, and some
78 PlanesNTrains : Once again, I'm impressed with your railroad knowledge. Nice way to combine two of my interests. Yes, but they could also have butchered it - remembe
79 United1 : Oh I think that plenty of people still remember them even outside of aviation fanatics but your right it is much more likely that the name will be UA
80 Post contains links and images Snn2003 : Modified Airliner Photos:Design © N. KhawajaTemplate © N. Khawaja Modified Airliner Photos:Design © Peter ten ThijeTemplate © Peter ten Thije Two
81 777fan : Does he? Then what the hell did you say? The discussion at hand deals with a potential UA-CO merger. I posted an option for the new carrier's name. Y
82 PM : Nice! The CO colour scheme is by a mile the best in North America and the UA scheme is by some margin the worst (though US comes close). CO is classy
83 Continental180 : gracias. at least we agree on something. lol
84 MX757 : CO CEO Larry Kellner addressed employees about a possible UA/CO merger in his weekly voicemail message. I don't know who these "sources" that the medi
85 Bobnwa : Northwest airlines is still called Northwest Airlines. NWA is painted on the aircraft just like AA at American, and U at United.
86 Hondah35 : Instead of merger talks, why don't they call them WN/FL/B6 expansion talks? Because after these insular, ignoramus management teams have shook hands o
87 Bobnwa : What a positve message! Tell us what you don't like about the legacy carriers.
88 Klkla : Quoting Mcdu (Reply 152 from part 1): Our product is on par or above those other competitors. Recently I rode F class on DAL and noticed no linens or
89 CALPSAFltSkeds : My guess is the name may be Continental-United and the United portion would be truncated off after integration is complete. In that way both carriers
90 777fan : Yeah, that's the idea, plain and simple. Right, but FedEx (shipping) and Kinkos (printing, copying) are two totally separate products. You more or le
91 Ocracoke : Nostalgia. I wish this country had a deeper love of trains. At least we can see the names of long-gone railroad companies written on the various rail
92 Charlienorth : Istill don't understand the glee to sell off UAL on this site: Let's split up AA ORD...goes to UAL No-one else to cover it anyhow...UA takes over..rec
93 WesternA318 : Wouldnt that leave everyone FedUp? much like all these damn rumors going 'round.
94 COewrAAtysAZ : I can see the argument for the Houston hub remaining, but I am not sure that its location really matters when it comes to paying certain taxes becaus
95 Ikramerica : I like when people make absolute statements like "no sense" and "no way" instead of at least being tactful and saying "I don't think." It's easier to
96 CALPSAFltSkeds : Sorry about the always. You make good points on similarities. Things were more similar between industries without airline deregulation, which literall
97 Post contains links United1 : Sorry you had a bad experience working for UA hopefully working for CO or whoever you work for makes you happier in life. UA employees got $170,000,0
98 UAL777UK : So you jumped ship and went to the biottom of the seniority list of CO, assuming you still work there. I hope that does not come back and bite you in
99 Post contains images StarAlliance38 : I am not for the CO-UA proposed merger. What happened to merging within your alliance? If CO and UA merge, there's gonna be a whole thing about SkyTea
100 Bobnwa : UA paid out $140 million in profit sharing for 2007 performance to its employees.
101 Post contains links 777fan : UA has done a commendable job trimming its operational costs since exiting bankruptcy. Add to the mix that they beat Wall Street's 4Q projection by a
102 Post contains images COEWR787 : It is true that Amtrak is the only trans-continental passenger carrier. But there are many more regional carriers, albeit all state owned, that do ex
103 BillReid : You are correct! Makes no sense to kill two brands. AF-KLM is a case to be taken strongly. Why not keep both brands "United" and "Continental" under
104 RJdxer : Maybe you should take another look, Continental has been growing, just not domestically as that is not where the money is at present.
105 Post contains links COewrAAtysAZ : Please go back and read my post. Your point was already acknowledged. Wait, I didn't explicitly say "fuel" in that. A noncontrollable cost would be f
106 777fan : That's good point and is probably something that will hash itself out if this comes to fruition. I wouldn't be surprised to see the name of the new c
107 ExFATboy : Well, I'd think that the other Star Alliance partners would apply some common sense to whatever recommendation they'd make to the combined UA-CO enti
108 Post contains links MasseyBrown : CO actually has been growing domestically, although mostly in a way that feeds their international routes. This year they project domestic capacity t
109 Ikramerica : Well considering they have added 738s and 753s while retiring 733s and 735s, the average plane size is slowly creeping up. And now with 739ERs coming
110 Hondah35 : I'll grant that CO seems to have things more under control than other airlines, and fuel cost is a big problem, but there is one damning piece of evi
111 United1 : Oh absolutely CSAs, assuming those are the co-workers you are talking about, are the most underpaid and underapreciated employees at any company. Tha
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