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UAL 777s Disappearing?  
User currently offlineShawn Patrick From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 16
Posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1753 times:

Hi,
I was browsing through the UAL timetable and I noticed some shocking things about it.

The 777 routes are disappearing.

For example, IAD-MXP used to be a 777. Now it is a 763. I can understand this somewhat, because there is not much of a demand for Milan, but still puzzling. (Why didn't UAL go for Rome?? Strange people at UAL..)

DEN-ORD doesn't have any 777s anymore. This is very puzzling. That 777 flight left FULL ALL of the time.

Any more disappearing 777s?

What's goin on?

-Shawn

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User currently offlineToxtethogrady From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1302 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1550 times:

Maybe the ongoing taxiway work around C and D at IAD has UA substituting smaller planes to fit the gates, temporarily (gotta love those letters!). But the 777's are not going to go away...

User currently offline747-451 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2417 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1528 times:

Not since UA has 50 and has ordered more...

User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6603 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1516 times:

Perhaps United are crashing them but not telling anyone about it!!! Soon there won't be any left!

User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5817 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1498 times:

That's what's happened. As a result, look for Delta to change their livery.

R


User currently offlineILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3141 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1465 times:

UA is getting more and more 777s. Right now a lot of the 777s are busy on the international flights, thus leaving very few for domestic operations.

There are a few 777s in a 2 class configuartion serving the domestic markets such as HNL, DEN, ORD and so on.


User currently offlineKLM747 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2001, 669 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1393 times:

Yes, ILUV767, that's what probably happened. United is getting more 777s.

KLM747 Big grin

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User currently offlineJohnnybgoode From Germany, joined Jan 2001, 2187 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1351 times:

us carriers and other carriers often prefer milan over rome because milan is italy´s business center, you can make more money on routes to milan.

rgds
daniel



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User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1265 times:

I checked the latest UA Timetable,and I see that more Hawaii flights are now using 777's.Probably since the 747-238B & soon DC-10-30's are history. UA also no longer flies 747's to Hawaii from SFO.So maybe that can explain. I am flying ROC-ORD-LAX-KOA in March and the ORD-LAX is a 777  Smile (757 to KOA)

Scott.......



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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1252 times:

Shawn Patrick,
Thats not possible because I'm going on a 777 this spring from DEN to ORD. We get a TON of 777s here in Denver. A TON. Here is one of my pics, I haven't submitted it to airliners.net yet. I will once I get a new scanner, so I can get better results. This is a United Airlines Boeing 777-200 approaching Runway 16 at Denver Int'l (DEN):



Kind regards.



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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1211 times:

Shawn Patrick,
I see you are a Denver resident too. Anyways, there are 2 or 3 777 flights from Denver (DEN) to Chicago (ORD), I think its 2 but it could be 3.

Kind regards.



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineUnited747-200 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 91 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1194 times:

I live outside of Denver in a small (but rapidly growing) town called Broomfield. We have flown MANY times to ORD on a 777 from DEN, and continued on the same aircraft to Paris. That was two years ago, but I just thought I'd share. Does anyone know if this has changed? Thanks for reading!

United747-200


User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3503 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1163 times:

You all should really go to the ual website and download the electronic timetable. It takes 15-20 minutes on a standard modem.

To summarize, though: UA flies 777s nonstop from DEN to:
EWR
IAD (2x)
LAX (2x)
MIA
SEA
SFO (2x)

Hope this helps (no they're not disappearing).


User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1152 times:

IAD-MUC will also be downgraded to a 767 as of February 14... perhaps they're moving 777s to routes currently or previously occupied by 744s (like JFK-NRT) to open up the 744s for the RTW starting in April?

User currently offlineAkelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2192 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1134 times:

Nope, they're not disappearing; they're going to the Pacific!

From this week's Aviation Week & Space Technology:

'United Bases ETOPS 777 Operation From San Francisco'

UAL is using SFO as its base for expanded 180-min. daily ETOPS transpacific operations with 777s. The aircraft that made its inaugural flight last month to Beijing Capital Int'l Airport is shown (in a picture next to the article) being serviced by Beijing Air Catering Co. in preparation for its return to SFO. SFO has become United's largest ETOPs operation center, with 777s also replacing non-stop 747 services to Tokyo, Honolulu, and Maui. In a sign of the growing China market, United also is offering nonstop 747 flights from SFO to Shanghai. Previously, Shainghai and Beijing were reached via Tokyo's Narita airport from the U.S. West Coast. A United official couldn't say when the Shanghai flight might be switched to a 777.


User currently offlineImkeww From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1102 times:

WOOHOO! More 777s for the city by the bay!!! (As if we needed more! pshaaah!)

Nice pic, btw.


User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1097 times:

Don't count on that many. Aside from the few flights to Hawaii, NRT has been upgraded, and PEK is the only Pacific destination to receive them...

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L


User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 21
Reply 17, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1084 times:

Considering the amount of time it takes to fly over, turn, and fly back, the NRT and PEK flights should be least 3 new 777 additions to SFO and therefore removals from other routes. Just my 2c.

BA: Great picture!!

Aaron G.


User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1078 times:

Maybe I wasn't too clear in that last post...

The 747's that were on SFO-PEK have been swapped for the 777's that were on the SFO-NRT route. ie: PEK is the only international Pacific destination to receive 777's from SFO (which would also imply that there are no additional 777 flights at SFO...)

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L


User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1042 times:

UA also operates 777's SEA-NRT (flight 874).


'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
User currently offlineILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3141 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1023 times:

united_Fan,

Fly777Ual was writing about SFO.


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 58
Reply 21, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1025 times:

Trvlr,
Thank you! I can't wait until I get my new scanner, so I can show you how the REAL quality is!

Kind regards.



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineNUair From Malaysia, joined Jun 2000, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 981 times:

It looks like UAL might be taking some 777's off of their trans atlantic flights at well. They have 777's scheduled to fly into AMS from Chicago and Washington but lately I have been seeing 763 (maybe 762) at AMS I am guessing that since UAL opened up their ORD-AMS route that the demand for passengers out of WAS has decreased and they switched over to the smaller 767. This is still quite a bit bigger then the 757's that CO is flying out of EWR. Interesting how United is utilizing their fleet and should be even more so when (if ) they integrate with US Airways who is in the process of expanding European operations significantly. Any predictions on the future of 777 flights over the North Atlantic?

NUair



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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6568 posts, RR: 55
Reply 23, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 978 times:

The 763 to AMS comes from LHR and this flight will only remain until 31Mar01. Then that LHR slot will be used for a third daily SFO-LHR flight. AMS will have two daily 777 flights from UA from 1Apr01 : one to ORD and one to IAD. From 15Feb01. there will be three UA flights to AMS; ORD-AMS 777, IAD-AMS 777 and LHR-AMS 763. The777Man


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User currently offlineNUair From Malaysia, joined Jun 2000, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 970 times:

What's the origin of the 763 coming from LHR to AMS? On a route overloaded with aircraft ranging from an ATR to a 767 Im guessing that United doesn't have the demand or the authority to operate a direct LHR-AMS flight unless it is codeshared.

Thanks,
NUair



"How Many Assholes we got on this ship?" - Lord Helmet
25 Post contains images QantasA330 : MAN DO WE HAVE ALOT OF DENVER RESIDENTS HERE ! Who all is from the Denver area? I'm from Littleton - born in Sydney. Been here for 4 1/2 years. I'm go
26 ILUV767 : QantasA330: My family and I were thinking of re-locating to Colorado about a year ago. My dad works for United, and there were some openings for maint
27 Endofdays : Everybody, in my point of view, they may just start to throw their 777 force into Eurpoe!?
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