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User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1938 posts, RR: 5
Posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2899 times:

I can think of only one scheduled widebody intrastate (flying within the same state) widebody domestic service in the continental U.S. today..Care to take a guess?????

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User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2900 times:

MCO-MIA with AA A300

User currently offlineMOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2894 times:

MCO-MIA on AA is the only one that comes to mind.

User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2880 times:

Although, if you want to expand it to cargo services... there are quite a few others.

For example:
TYS-MEM FX A310
OAK-LAX FX MD-11
OAK-SAN FX A310
OAK-ONT FX MD-10


User currently offlineMOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2867 times:



Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 1):

Yikes! 20 seconds!

Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 3):
Although, if you want to expand it to cargo services... there are quite a few others.

MOB-ABY-SDF with UPS A300


User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1938 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2856 times:

Not within the same state!

MOB-ABY-SDF

[Edited 2008-02-15 15:06:16]

[Edited 2008-02-15 15:07:08]

User currently offlineMOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2804 times:



Quoting Crownvic (Reply 5):
Not within the same state!

Dang! You have to be so nitpicky... just kidding. And I should have also made it BFM and not MOB. It's alright.... it's a Friday.
 Wink


User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1938 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2708 times:

MCO to MIA and back is correct....any others?????

User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2693 times:

Although its somewhat iffy if this counts or not....

KOA-HNL on JAL B767


User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1938 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2604 times:



Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 8):

I wasnt sure about Hawaii thats why I posted continental U.S.


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2543 times:



Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 8):
KOA-HNL on JAL B767

Hey, he said within the same state so this counts.



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23153 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2530 times:

It looks like ABX runs SFO-LAX-JFK on a 762... the flight number is ABX1876

To add a little something, what intrastate widebody services have run on widebodies in the past?

PIT-PHL is one I'm almost sure of
I suspect UA has had scheduled widebodies SFO-LAX in the past
IAH-DFW ever?
TW on MCI-STL?
NW used to do some short hops on DC-10s... DTW-GRR ever?



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User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1696 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2519 times:

UA used to run a daily DC-10 on DEN-COS, IIRC. What do you know, now it is all RJ's. It's amazing how aviation has changed!


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User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2515 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 11):
NW used to do some short hops on DC-10s... DTW-GRR ever?

As Al Boreland on "Home Improvement" used to say "......I dont think so Tim".
safe  no 



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23153 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2496 times:



Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 13):

As Al Boreland on "Home Improvement" used to say "......I dont think so Tim".

They flew MSP-MKE in a -40 up until maybe 6 years ago...



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User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2496 times:

Back in the day...PSA used a pair of L-1011s on the LAX -SFO, then overnight at SAN for maintenance.
This system lasted about a year, then the Tristar was grounded due to the fuel crunch of the '70s.
Regards.



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User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2476 times:

Up until very recently, DL ran a 767-400 on OGG-HNL

There have also been multiple different intra-florida legs that at various times have been run by widebodies.

Wasn't there some SFO-OAK service with various aircraft, up to and including 747s, by United for MX work?


User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2432 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 14):

Theres a few more miles in MSP-MSP then DTW-GRR. 296 vs 126.
NW, in the 80's, did fly DTW-ORD with DC 10 as did UA...... and AA over time with the 10 and 767 .....distance 237 miles
Wife and I I was booked on a AA 767 summer of 90. It crapped out and AA put us on NW.

AA DC 10's, also flew DTW-BUF, 230miles, when the rear cargo door blew out. This was 1973 I think.
NW also did 747's(one a day) on the DTW-ORD route for a short time.

If you want to back up in time, don't forget the L 1011's between MIA and FLL in the 70's.
Whats that around.... 35 miles or so? Somethink like that.
As far as today, I do not know who has the shortest widebody trip in North America. However,
I will learn thanks to A-net.

reference on flight history...old O.A.G.s
reference on milage....NWA website
safe



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User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2452 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2407 times:



Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 10):
Hey, he said within the same state so this counts.

Did you read the rest of his sentence? The OP said intra state in the continental U.S. The continental US does not include Alaska or Hawaii.

Quoting Crownvic (Thread starter):
I can think of only one scheduled widebody intrastate (flying within the same state) widebody domestic service in the continental U.S. today..




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User currently offlineAnalog From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 1900 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2394 times:



Quoting CitationJet (Reply 18):

Did you read the rest of his sentence? The OP said intra state in the continental U.S. The continental US does not include Alaska or Hawaii.

Last time I checked Alaska was part of the same continent as the contiguous "lower" 48 states.


User currently offlineIflyatldl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1936 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2387 times:

"Intra-state" means within one state....  Smile


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User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1938 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2334 times:

There were tons of widebody flights within the state of Florida back in the 70's and 80's.. TPA-MIA- FLL-MCO all had widebodies between them... National DC-10s, EAL L-1011's NW DC-10's and even Western Airlines flew a DC-10 between FLL and MIA for a short time...Talk about a short widebody flight!

My definition of continental U.S. is the lower 48...I may be wrong but I was always under the impression that the term always excluded Alaska and Hawaill...


User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2452 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2299 times:

Quoting Analog (Reply 19):
Last time I checked Alaska was part of the same continent as the contiguous "lower" 48 states.

I was responding to Reply #10, which stated that Hawaii should be included. Hawaii is definitely not in the continental US.

I agree that Alaska is on the continent, however the definition of continental US commonly refers to the 48 states:
" The continental United States commonly refers to the 48 contiguous states located on the central part of the North American continent, plus the District of Columbia, and so does not include Alaska and Hawaii."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_United_States

The US Geological Survey defines continental US as
"Continental United States. The continental United States (or CONUS) means the 48 contiguous states and the District of Columbia."
http://www.usgs.gov/usgs-manual/340/340-9.html

[Edited 2008-02-16 18:08:55]


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User currently offlineMark5388916 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2265 times:

I know UA sends a 777-200 from OGG to KOA because OGGs runway isnt long enough to go non stop to ORD with that big of a plane.

Mark



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User currently offlineAnalog From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 1900 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2245 times:



Quoting CitationJet (Reply 22):
The US Geological Survey defines continental US as "Continental United States. The continental United States (or CONUS) means the 48 contiguous states and the District of Columbia."

Isn't it great when a group of words is used counter to its obvious logical meaning?

I'd love to see a lawsuit try to use the fact that Alaska is not in North America. It's legally true, right?

The US gov't says the tomato is not a fruit. That doesn't make it true. (Yes, the tomato is a fruit. It's a berry.)


25 Post contains links CitationJet : The question about geographic interpretation applies to the basic definition of continents. Recently an A.net thread asked about flights to all the w
26 YULWinterSkies : So, no SFO-LAX widebody? All it takes is a few mergers imho... How many flights per day on SFO-LAX? What is true? That it is legally not in North Amer
27 Cubsrule : I've traveled extensively in Latin America (and taught school), and NEVER have I seen or heard anyone refer to North and South America as one contine
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