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Breaking: Delta To Keep Its Name - Part 2  
User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12221 posts, RR: 18
Posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7525 times:
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Since thread 1 Breaking: Delta To Keep Name (by Iflyatldl Feb 14 2008 in Civil Aviation) has reached over 260 posts, here is thread 2

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User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4570 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7518 times:

With this being a part 2 I'll just paste what I said in the last post in part 1.

If this merger is true then my return flight from DUS back to IND via DTW on the 21st will be the last trip I ever take with this company. Looks like its time to find a new airline to do business with. I'm not interested in giving DL a dime of my money. Maybe F9 for domestic and CO for international? Or maybe a European carrier for international.



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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7492 times:



Quoting Indy (Reply 1):
If this merger is true then my return flight from DUS back to IND via DTW on the 21st will be the last trip I ever take with this company. Looks like its time to find a new airline to do business with. I'm not interested in giving DL a dime of my money. Maybe F9 for domestic and CO for international? Or maybe a European carrier for international.

It's still going to be pretty much the same company but with the DL name. F9 is good from what I hear but only if you want to connect in DEN. FL could be your plan B. We'll have to see what will happen to IND, CVG, and CMH. It's possible all three will remain focus cities/hubs, but I don't think that's likely. And that might open the door for LCCs to expand service in that area.



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User currently offlineTriniA340 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Nov 2005, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7106 times:

I wonder how the A330 would look in the new Delta colours....
Are there any out there or can someone do up one? I think they would look amazing.



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User currently offlineNWA757300 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 299 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7024 times:

I"d like to see a rendering of the 319/320 as well. I bet they'd look nice.

User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6982 times:



Quoting Indy (Reply 1):
User currently offlineIndy

The NW-DL proposed merger will be a year before it happens. There are buku huddles to jump before these carriers
are one. Dont give up on your favorite carrier just yet.

safe



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User currently offlineSpencerII From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6969 times:



Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 5):
The NW-DL proposed merger will be a year before it happens. There are buku huddles to jump before these carriers
are one. Dont give up on your favorite carrier just yet.

If it is to happen it will happen before November. The current administration is all for mergers & consolidation. IF the other party takes control it will take that much time.


User currently offlineRwy04LGA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6947 times:



Quoting TriniA340 (Reply 3):
wonder how the A330 would look in the new Delta colours....
Are there any out there or can someone do up one?



Quoting NWA757300 (Reply 4):
I"d like to see a rendering of the 319/320 as well. I bet they'd look nice.

 checkmark   bigthumbsup  Somebody?......Please?  pray 



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User currently offlineN801NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 744 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6920 times:



Quoting SpencerII (Reply 6):
f it is to happen it will happen before November. The current administration is all for mergers & consolidation. IF the other party takes control it will take that much time.

It actually needs to happen shortly, like this month, according to NW's CFO Dave Davis.* They don't want to risk running the clock past 01/20/09. The DoJ review could take months. Also, while the administration generally supports mergers the fact that it is a lame duck administration doesn't hurt either.

*Comments made on Q42007 earnings conference call.


User currently offlinePHXtoDCAtoMSP From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 299 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6895 times:



Quoting SpencerII (Reply 6):
If it is to happen it will happen before November. The current administration is all for mergers & consolidation. IF the other party takes control it will take that much time.

There is 0% chance that this can get the ok by November. First off, November is just the election month, not the month that a new administration comes in. Mid-late January [20th I think], is when the new administration comes in. Second, lets think to the most recent airline deal. Hmmm....it just happened to involve Northwest. On August 12, 2007, the Midwest Board of Directors voted to pursue the Northwest-TPG offer to buy out Midwest. Shareholder approval came about 1-2 months later. Then, approval from the Department of Justice did not come until January 31st. That is 5 and 1/2 months after the Board of Directors of Midwest approved the deal. Let's think here: Northwest was trying to acquire 47% of an airline that held less than 0.5% of the US domestic market. The DOJ looked at it like a merger because Northwest could eventually buy out the 53% of TPG. And thats a big could/if scenario. And the DOJ [the same one that will review DL-NW] took several months on this tiny deal. Now fast-forward as soon as Wednesday when the DL and NW boards may meet to approve the deal. Then you have the shareholders that must approve it which will take awhile. Then you will have every Congress person who has beef with the deal trying to hold hearings about the potential deal. Then you get other airlines also announcing their deals and even more Congressional leaders delaying things with hearings. Then you have a DOJ that looked at a Northwest 47% equity stake in Midwest like hawks. This same DOJ will have to look at the NW-DL deal with a MUCH tougher eye and have to listen to MANY more constituencies. This will take at least a year in my opinion.

The failed United - US Airways merger was announced in May of 2000, yet was abandoned (even before the official denied ruling of the DOJ) in July of 2001. More than a year later. This deal will have the same, if not stricter circumstances.

If they want to pass muster under the current Bush Administration it will be a fight to the finish!


User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6875 times:

Same subject different twist.
After reading a number of threads and posts, some people are looking in the wrong direction
This is not about what NW gains, its about what DL gains.
Hubs in MSP and DTW, routes to the Orient and replacements for the MD-80's.
Stronger gains on access to Europe and a bigger network to help combat its major headache, airTran.
Delta will be able to now last a long time.
NW folks at the NW hubs should retain the jobs. The jobs that would be shakey IN MY OPINION ONLY
is the out sourced folks in places like AZO, ICT, DAY, TYS...etc..( a long list here).
The ones I am not sure of their futures would be the DL
folks at DTW and MSP and the NW folks at ATL.

safe



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User currently offlineBravoGolf From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 539 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6844 times:



Quoting 777ER (Thread starter):
Since thread 1 Breaking: Delta To Keep Name (by Iflyatldl Feb 14 2008 in Civil Aviation) has reached over 260 posts, here is thread 2

Why are you extending the thread when the original post was based on a BOGUS news report. If the thread is named what if Delta and NWA merged, that would be OK. WHY perpetuate a bogus news report?


User currently offlineGlbltrvlr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 752 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6696 times:



Quoting BravoGolf (Reply 11):
Why are you extending the thread when the original post was based on a BOGUS news report. If the thread is named what if Delta and NWA merged, that would be OK. WHY perpetuate a bogus news report?

Chill dude... The Financial Times would seem to disagree with you.

Quote:
The Delta Air Lines board plans to meet on Wednesday to approve the US carrier's merger with rival Northwest Airlines, people close to the matter said on Friday.

Northwest may also call a board meeting for Wednesday, they said.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a60197e2-dc32-11dc-bc82-0000779fd2ac.html


User currently offlineBravoGolf From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 539 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6664 times:

"Plans" and "may" are a far cry from the original post. Most on this thread, myself included, did not read the original release about keeping the Delta name because it was quickly yanked by the TV station. Sort of a Dewey beats Truman headline. We all know they are talking, but beyond that it's pure speculation and should be labeled as such.

User currently offlineJogales From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6463 times:

Here's a mockup I did of a DL A330. I tried contacting the photographer several days ago, but he has not yet replied...Here's the original photo:

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Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Pascal Maillot



Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 690 File size: 87kb
DL A330


If anyone thinks I should take it down, I'll do it right away.

Josh



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User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9577 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6360 times:



Quoting Jogales (Reply 14):

wiglets would be blue but very nice



yep.
User currently offlineWard86IND From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6301 times:



Quoting Jogales (Reply 14):

Nice job. To me the A330 looks surprisingly fat in DL colors though. Maybe it's just because I'm so used to the 767...



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User currently offlineNwarooster From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1107 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6186 times:
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Quoting Ward86IND (Reply 16):
Nice job. To me the A330 looks surprisingly fat in DL colors though. Maybe it's just because I'm so used to the 767...

There might be a good chance that Delta may retain Northwest's pearl paint on the fuselage. Delta's White may go away. Richard Anderson was at Northwest, when the new color was selected. The color was selected as it would require less maintenance.  old 


User currently offlineDALelite From Switzerland, joined Jun 2000, 1770 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6186 times:



Quoting Ward86IND (Reply 16):
. To me the A330 looks surprisingly fat in DL colors though. Maybe it's just because I'm so used to the 767..

same here....

cheers: DALelite



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User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5988 times:



Quoting Jogales (Reply 14):
User currently offlineJogales

Now paint the tail all red and insert the DL widget pointing to the NW.
safe



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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5576 times:

I wonder what Hillary and Obama and McCain think about mergers. I doubt they will say they are for this one since Ohio hasn't voted yet and has a lot of electoral votes. If they said they are for this merger they lose the support of the people in CVG and CLE who would be hurt if their cities were dehubbed in a merger. However what they actually DO in office is completely different.


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User currently offlineWilliam From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5376 times:



Quoting Nwarooster (Reply 17):

I think you are totally correct. If this merger does go through, expect the new widget tail ,blue engine cowlings and silver body.


User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5512 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5211 times:



Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 20):
I wonder what Hillary and Obama and McCain think about mergers.

Saith Hillary:

“According to press accounts, merger talks are occurring in the airline industry, as companies face the prospect of a slowing economy and high fuel prices,” said Clinton. “If carriers decide to combine in order to cut costs and increase their market clout, we will have to take a hard look at the potential effects on workers and consumers. It is important that we preserve choice and competitive pricing in the airline industry. It is also vitally important that any proposed merger preserve the jobs and worker protections on which thousands of families rely.”



I love long German words like 'Freundschaftsbezeigungen'.
User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4753 posts, RR: 45
Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5212 times:

I do not see any changes to the current DELTA livery should they merge with NWA.

White body, blue tail, blue engines, red widget...

my prediction at least, altho I could always be wrong  Smile



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User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9577 posts, RR: 14
Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5165 times:



Quoting William (Reply 21):
I think you are totally correct. If this merger does go through, expect the new widget tail ,blue engine cowlings and silver body.

Don't count on it. DL just released the new livery that was picked by the employee's. Most PAX will just stop at the gate and say " o look Northwest changed there name to Delta now lets go get on our Boeing A320" Big grin

Hate to say it DL could really care less what a.net thinks should happen. DL will do there best to save as many PAXas they can but most people don't care if NW was started in 1926 or 2006 as long as it's cheap and have good flight times.



yep.
25 Post contains images Like2flyguy : Very nice job!
26 FlyASAGuy2005 : The mods seem to disagree... That's kind of iffy. If I were you I would. Ditto.
27 Post contains images Centrair : Oh come on. We know a kadrillion bazillion more than they do. I mean...come on...we are A.net. And of course they care if it started in 1926 because
28 Patches : They have to have an all red tail, incorperate the compass somewhere on the plane and I will be happy. sort of.
29 FlyASAGuy2005 : That may make you happy but in all honesty, I don't see them changing he livery again. I don't think that this deal was just drumed up a few months a
30 Patches : They would not have to change that much on the new Delta livery, just add the nwa and a small compass next to the Delta logo. The new Delta logo on th
31 Post contains images Isitsafenow : See the photo in reply 14, then read reply 19...there you have it...the newest DL paint scheme. safe
32 WorldTraveler : it will happen between the Nov elections and Jan 19th. Everything that needs to be pushed through that could be perceived as antagonistic to voters w
33 Post contains links Gregarious119 : Here's my "quick and dirty" version of a merged DL/NW livery... http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.fil...d=536915282&filename=php6iuEEn.jpg
34 Patches : Thanks Gregarious119. Now thats what I'm talking about! put a nwa logal next to the delta one and we will be in bussiness! Clean up the rest of it and
35 Isitsafenow : I like. Now point the widget in front of the word D E L T A to the NW and presto! safe
36 Post contains images WesternA318 : Thats pretty...
37 Post contains images RedTailDTW : Although saying goodbye to Northwest would be devastating (maybe even tramatizing), I would like to see Delta keep at least something around that remi
38 FlyASAGuy2005 : Off topic but strangely enough, doesn't the cockpit section look like an E-170
39 Acey559 : A little bit, but I think the -170 is a little more rounded, not quite so pointed. But you're right, there is a resemblance.
40 WNCrew : Forgive me for asking as I'm a bit confused....but is this merger even OFFICIAL?
41 BravoGolf : Please check my reply #13. In a word NO.
42 Post contains images Acey559 : Nothing official from either airline yet. I think I heard to expect an announcement on Wednesday, but I don't even know if THAT's official. Stay tune
43 FlyASAGuy2005 : Nope. Yeah, like when the word was that the announcement would have been made @ 12 or 1230 E.S.T. on last Friday.
44 Post contains images Acey559 : Exactly. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how this whole deal plays out.
45 FlyASAGuy2005 : It will be quite iresponsible for them to just "set a date" if they haven't worked out everything that they would like to work out before the announc
46 Bobnwa : No it is not official and there is and will not be announcement about a pending announcement. It will just be announced when they are ready or nothin
47 DeltaL1011man : the DL BOD meets wed. in NYC and I'm pretty sure the NW BOD is also meeting wed.
48 Post contains links Glbltrvlr : http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2008/02/18/daily14.html Union leaders at both Northwest Airlines and Delta Air Lines have reached agreem
49 Post contains links Glbltrvlr : Full story at http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...6NX4k_YVkVtwqeij5T_qaczpwD8UU4P3G0
50 Post contains images Isitsafenow : ON THE PILOT THING I dont think this will be a big deal on a merger that WILL happen. Here's why.......... Being there is a shortage of pilots around
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