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User currently offlineMx330 From Mexico, joined Oct 2002, 827 posts, RR: 13
Posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 11375 times:
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AeroMexico's first ever 777-200 arrived today into ORY for scheduled paint job.
The plane will be converted into the "new" boring scheme in between the next few days.

With this being done, now there is only one 777 on the chromed scheme... N746AM

Spot him while you can.

Juan APM


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User currently offlineLY4XELD From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 857 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 11252 times:

I saw their first 777 in the Everett factory prior to delivery. It's a shame the are moving away from the polished metal look. It was amazing to see (that and a brand new AA 777)...it was literally a mirror surface!


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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 11185 times:

..Another victim of the Eurowhite plague

+ they copied LAN  silly 



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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4049 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 10994 times:



Quoting LY4XELD (Reply 1):
I saw their first 777 in the Everett factory prior to delivery. It's a shame the are moving away from the polished metal look. It was amazing to see (that and a brand new AA 777)...it was literally a mirror surface!

Pretty sad to see them going from this to this:

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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10677 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 10883 times:

Another swan turning into an ugly duck. Sigh.

User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4905 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 10506 times:



Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 3):
Quoting LY4XELD (Reply 1):
I saw their first 777 in the Everett factory prior to delivery. It's a shame the are moving away from the polished metal look. It was amazing to see (that and a brand new AA 777)...it was literally a mirror surface!

Pretty sad to see them going from this to this:

Unfortantely the new scheme is due to the introduction of the B787 which cant be polished...

EK413



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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 9422 times:



Quoting MD90fan (Reply 2):
Another victim of the Eurowhite plague



Quoting NA (Reply 4):
Another swan turning into an ugly duck. Sigh.

Count me in; just a sad, sad thing to see. I don't understand some airlines, always trying to fix what's not broken.
I second this spotter's coment


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I agree the old livery is much better, but I don't think the new one is that bad.


User currently offlineJmbarros12 From Brazil, joined Nov 2007, 249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 9196 times:

I totally disagree with you, guys........... In my opinion, the new AeroMexico´s livery is much prettier than the silver one (which is very nice too)... The 777 is a very beautiful plane in any color scheme!!!

Cheers,

Joao



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User currently offlineJuniorSpotter From Sweden, joined Mar 2004, 225 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 8658 times:

Oh my god! What is that new, interesting color next to the blue tail and red stripe? I've never seen it before, it looks so new! So fresh! So...catchy!

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User currently offlineSh0rtybr0wn From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 528 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 8354 times:

The new scheme is a boring disgrace. Mexico is a colorful country, why not have a colorful livery. Put Mexican flags all over it.... anything but white and blue.

I would love to see a 777 in Southwest Airlines colors.


User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2307 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week ago) and read 8147 times:



Quoting Sh0rtybr0wn (Reply 9):
I would love to see a 777 in Southwest Airlines colors


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Why are these 777s going to the paint hangar? Their current paint job's are only 2 years old where as most of them only get painted every 5 years?



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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4049 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week ago) and read 8105 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 5):
Unfortantely the new scheme is due to the introduction of the B787 which cant be polished...

Perhaps this explains why AA is so reluctant to sign-on for the 787   ! Perhaps AM could at least take a clue form NW or AC, and AA could follow since such metallic colors can be used on the 787 so far as I know:

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No "Eurowhite" plague on these?  biggrin 

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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week ago) and read 7994 times:

And where exactly will they be flying this 777-200?

South America routes are about all its good for.

NS


User currently offlineCubastar From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 407 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week ago) and read 7883 times:



Quoting EK413 (Reply 5):
Unfortantely the new scheme is due to the introduction of the B787 which cant be polished

Wish that they would keep the polished scheme for the present aircraft and create a terrific special paint job for the 787 when it is introduced. (They have plenty of time to work on something special.)


User currently offlineTCT From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week ago) and read 7851 times:



Quoting EK413 (Reply 5):
Unfortantely the new scheme is due to the introduction of the B787 which cant be polished...

So that would mean if AA ever decided to order the 787 they would need to change their livery, right?


User currently offlineRbgso From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 588 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7764 times:



Quoting TCT (Reply 14):
So that would mean if AA ever decided to order the 787 they would need to change their livery, right?

I suspect they would keep the polished metal livery on everything but the 787. Maybe they would paint the thing metallic grey, like NW.


User currently offlineMayaviaERJ190 From Mexico, joined Jan 2008, 302 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7728 times:

It runs in the family. Skyteam, the multi-livery alliance.

Right now I can count four different liveries in AeroMexico:

1 AeroMexico Connect's Saabs with AeroLitoral stripes.
2 AeroMexico Connect's ERJ145s with mixed Connect front and AeroLitoral tail.
3 AeroMexico's former polished livery.
4 AeroMexico's & AM Connects's eurowhite.

Do they want to be like multi-livery Delta, or is the eurowhite the first step for the Air France dirty look?

I like the new livery and can't wait for the Mad Dogs and 767s to join.

What are the repainting plans?

Will we ever see the older Mad Dogs in white?

Will the newer Mad Dogs bare an AeroMexico Travel scheme with a big Travel on the side like the one for Connect?

When will the first 767 be repainted, or the "new one" will come in the new c/s?

How long for N746AM to get the new look?



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User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7540 times:



Quoting MD90fan (Reply 2):
Another victim of the Eurowhite plague

+ they copied LAN

And a terrible copy. Maybe they tried to incorporate the snake in the mexican flag by drawing that red wavy stripe? It's hard to believe there are even worse, like the new CSA pin the tail in the donkey scheme, someone must have closed their eyes and just drew something. I believe the new TAP jello is just as bad, but a few probably disagree.

Quoting NA (Reply 4):
Another swan turning into an ugly duck. Sigh.

really? your're always praising that crappy look

Quoting Rbgso (Reply 15):

Quoting TCT (Reply 14):
So that would mean if AA ever decided to order the 787 they would need to change their livery, right?
.

I wish AA would keep the plane gray just like the A300s back in the 90's. They looked great to me. Personally I'm not a huge fan of the fake metal aluminum look a la NW, but it's still better than white.

Quoting Sh0rtybr0wn (Reply 9):
The new scheme is a boring disgrace. Mexico is a colorful country, why not have a colorful livery. Put Mexican flags all over it.... anything but white and blue.

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Most latin airlines are going for this crappy look, it's a plague. I've also heard TACA will go for something wavy like this in the near future, sad.


User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4049 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7191 times:



Quoting Gigneil (Reply 12):
And where exactly will they be flying this 777-200?

South America routes are about all its good for.

Actually I believe they fly to Spain and Japan for AM (MEX-TIJ-NRT, MEX-MAD, MEX-BCN), and possibly France as well as a few routes to South America.



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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7569 posts, RR: 43
Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6717 times:



Quoting MayaviaERJ190 (Reply 16):
Will we ever see the older Mad Dogs in white?

Will the newer Mad Dogs bare an AeroMexico Travel scheme with a big Travel on the side like the one for Connect?

Yes, good question. I guess it depends on how fast AM transfers all the Mad Dogs to its new "Travel" charter operation. In any case, I would imagine that the Travel planes would also have a different paint scheme, meaning that the Mad Dogs would have to be repainted anyway. If I am not mistaken, there are 20 Mad Dogs at the moment, something like 2 82s, 3 83s, 10 87s and 5 88s (Ghost will surely correct me) and I don't know if AM is going to add more E190s and 738s to replace these birds in the coming months.

About the 767s, I know AM has 4 (one 763ER and three 762ERs) at the moment, and I am also wondering why none of them has been painted yet. So, how many more 767s is AM looking for? Is AM looking for -200s or -300s? I guess AM only wants Pratt-engined birds, right? I think it is great that AM wants to grow its widebody fleet, but I'd much rather see AM looking for more 777s than 767s. Speaking of which, will AM stay with only 4 772ERs? In my opinion, MEX-GRU and MEX-MAD should be all-777 routes and for this they probably need at least 5 or 6 birds. The delivery of the first 787 is still very far away!

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 18):
Actually I believe they fly to Spain and Japan for AM (MEX-TIJ-NRT, MEX-MAD, MEX-BCN), and possibly France as well as a few routes to South America.

Ghost will know better but MEX-MAD and MEX-GRU are mostly 777 (but sometimes 767). MEX-CDG is mostly 767 (but sometimes 777). TIJ-NRT is all-777. TIJ-PVG will also be all-777. MEX-EZE, MEX-BCN, MTY-MAD and MEX-SCL are all-767.

By the way, is AM still going to launch MTY-FCO this year???



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 20, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 6594 times:

Ah, I'm sorry, I assumed we meant this was a first 777-200 to the fleet of 777-200ERs.

Not that the first one delivered was being repainted.

Sorry.

NS


User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 21, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6508 times:



Quoting EddieDude (Reply 19):
Ghost will know better but MEX-MAD and MEX-GRU are mostly 777 (but sometimes 767). MEX-CDG is mostly 767 (but sometimes 777). TIJ-NRT is all-777. TIJ-PVG will also be all-777. MEX-EZE, MEX-BCN, MTY-MAD and MEX-SCL are all-767.

Very small L/H fleet for so many long flights.

What... (4) 772ER, (3) 762ER, & (1) 763ER I believe. Are not the 777's from ILFC and the 767's from LA?

Does AM have plans for future orders for large a/c?

I believe they have (2) 787-8 direct and (3) 787-8 from ILFC coming. These replacement or expansion?



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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7569 posts, RR: 43
Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6451 times:



Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 21):
Very small L/H fleet for so many long flights.

Very small indeed!

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 21):
Are not the 777's from ILFC and the 767's from LA?

Yes I think the four 777s are leased from ILFC... two are new-builds manufactured to AM's specifications and two are ex-RG (PP-VRA and PP-VRB). AM was supposed to lease one more new 777 from ILFC but seems this will not happen (will it Ghost?).

The 767s come from many sources. One used to be from an African carrier (LAM maybe). I would assume all 767s are leased but I am not sure of this.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6425 times:



Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 21):
Very small L/H fleet for so many long flights.

we've been complaining about that for a while, specially me.

Like Eddie said, very small


User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 24, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6427 times:

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 22):
two are new-builds manufactured to AM's specifications

N745AM
N746AM

These were new builds for AM and leased buy ILFC which placed the order for AM in June 2005.

Boeing Delivers Aeromexico's First 777-200ER

It states the 777's replaced older 767's? I believe these would be XA-RVZ & XA-TNS which both left in late 2006 several months before AM took new build 777's direct from Boeing via ILFC.

One would think AM would have placed a larger order as the order was for (2) and two only with no option I believe.

I still like the polished metal over the new color scheme.

[Edited 2008-02-18 16:54:04]


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25 EK413 : Well, I'm puzzled with AM deciding to go ahead with the NEW scheme course AA faced this problem with the introduction of the A300 and came up with a
26 EddieDude : Wasn't there an option for a third brand new 772ER? I recall someone saying some time ago that the frame was allocated to KL (either by Boeing or by
27 Post contains links BoeingFever777 : No idea... I know KL took frames around the time AM did for the 777 in late 2006 early 2007 leased from ILFC. There press release only mentions (2) t
28 Ghost77 : N745//746AM, N774/776AM are ex. RG and also belong to ILFC. XA-APB belongs to ILFC and a new B767-300ER ex. LA is due for May 2008 and it also belong
29 RJ111 : I'm devastated. The AM scheme is one of the best about and really suited the Boeing metal.
30 EddieDude : So AM is getting just one more 763ER... hmmm. I understand the -200s are used for European services preferrably, so will the -300s be used for the fl
31 Post contains links Ghost77 : Hi Eddie! Yes, AM is getting one more B763ER, the -200s and 300s will get reconfigured. I don't have the numbers nor the link on the APM forum to add
32 Orbis : Does anybody know if and when the ex-RG will be getting the new interiors/seating to standarize the T7 fleet???? Hi Ghost. Reconfigured in what way??
33 Ghost77 : Not sure when, but it is said by the end of the year they'll have the new interiors. Right now all T7 schedule is tight on as of the lack of the B767
34 A388 : It is indeed a shame the beautiful chrome metal livery is soon gone in the AM fleet. I wonder how long AA will keep their current livery. With the (fu
35 EddieDude : Wow, that will be a bad thing for the yields. At least for the passengers that will be a good thing since the planes will be roomier... I understand
36 Ghost77 : i think, this will be a good change for AM, less seats more demand for them, higher yields...!! Don't know how it will affect XA-APB and the new B763E
37 SXDFC : A bit off -topic but when will some of the AM 73NG's head into the paint hangar? I am sure some of them are coming up on the 5 year checks now right?
38 Post contains links and images Ghost77 : That's right! XA-AAM was delivered on October 19th, 2003. View Large View MediumPhoto © Ricardo Morales Centeno - APM All paint jobs were done i
39 Post contains links and images SXDFC : Even though I am 18 years old- well soon to be 19, and this picture was before my time, is it me or does this scheme below TRULY represent Mexico , th
40 AR385 : Since I can remember, I have been collecting aircraft models of any scale. I would blatantly walk to a travel agency and asked if they would give me
41 SXDFC : Would you please post a picture of it?
42 Frontierflyer : The polish look is the best. AM also just made their aircraft heavier with all that paint. What a waste of money.
43 AA1818 : DL seems to be popular for Latin American and Caribbean repaints/ retrofittings. BW (Caribbean Airlines) is using them untill they recruit their own
44 RB211 : Why do airlines go from glam to drab on the paint. BA and the Landor blue tail, Delta and the widget, Northwest with the Orient titles, and now Aero M
45 Ghost77 : 25 B737-700WL 03 B767-200ER 01 B767-300ER 01 B777-200ER And 19 MD82/3/7/8s but non of these are getting the new c/s except for the 03 MD88s for start
46 MayaviaERJ190 : Dear Ghost, I know you know this very well, and you are right, but you listed the question's opposite answer, these are the planes missing the new sc
47 Ghost77 : New scheme: 08 B737-700WL 06 B767-800WL 03 B777-200ER g77
48 Post contains images MayaviaERJ190 : This is a surprise! Second mexican launch customer ever! Typo, typo typo! At least the exchange of 737-800WL for wide bodies got us excited for a mom
49 EddieDude : By the way, is AM getting more 737-800s? I also wonder if AM has considered ordering the -900ER.
50 AA1818 : Cheers for the info. I would have thought that more would have been repainted!! It certainly would fit very well in their fleet especially for centra
51 PanAm330 : I suspect AA gets Boeing to do something like they got Airbus to do on the A300. I would hope they would, because it'd be a complete shame to see AA'
52 EddieDude : Well, I was thinking JFK, LAX and MIA (maybe ORD). Central American routes (Managua and San Pedro Sula) are not doing very well, so I would say the E
53 Ghost77 : It is said that fleet will go up to 08, that makes, 02 more missing, but I highly doubt it, as only backlog for AM is 10 B737-700WL all being deliver
54 Post contains images Zetineitor737 : You mean that Aeromexico have the options for 10 more 737-700?
55 AR385 : Back in the day, I went to MGA quite often, with COPA. The flight was a daily nonstop from MEX and it was always full, on the way there and back. Why
56 Ghost77 : No, all are firm orders and due for 2009! g77
57 RB211 : What is the weight differential with the new paint as opposed to the old one and does this have any financial affect. (Cheaper or more expensive?)
58 EddieDude : This is a very interesting question and I do not know the answer, but I do recall reading at some point an article in the press quoting an AM officer
59 Adriaticus : Eduardo, I hear from reliable sources it has to do with reducing maintenance costs of the bare metal polishing. In fact, the new coat of paint adds a
60 Post contains images Flyin5glow : Looks awful, I don't see why would Aeromexico would want to paint these beauties, isn't cheaper to polish them avoiding the paint weight. If they want
61 AR385 : They can play with the fuselage colors, but I would hate to see my beloved "Caballero Aguila" leave. The tail as is is great.
62 Post contains links and images NA : The story of decline: View Large View MediumPhoto © Bob Garrard A beauty from the 70s View Large View MediumPhoto © Bob Garrard A beauty fro
63 LH498 : That is not a small number of additional weight; it can be quite significant, especially with an aircraft operating with restrictions out of an hot&h
64 EA772LR : Well, they have to paint the 787s coming (and it's probably a good idea to start the process of repainting now, so when the 787s arrive, they'll fit
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