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Older Aircrafts With PTV's  
User currently offlineAruba From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 128 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3472 times:

Hi, I was just wondering if any one can think of any older aircrafts with PTV's.

Or any older aircrafts with newer technology.

Here's a 732 with PTV's

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User currently offlinePanAm747LHR From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 232 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3427 times:

PIA's 747-300s are ex-CX and also have PTVs on board in coach.

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Also, Virgin was a pioneer with PTVs and had them on their early 747s.

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Some of those Virgin birds are now with Transaero, complete with PTVs...

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User currently offlineAirnewzealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2542 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3406 times:

Qantas have PTV's on their 747-300 birds...12-15 programmes/movies loop system...plus telephone handset!

Cheers


User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6447 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3366 times:

Some of Delta's Transcon 757s date back to 1985, including the Pink Breast Cancer Awareness aircraft, N610DL.

Delta's domestic 767-300s are also getting PTVs, and those aircraft date back to 1987, with ship 121 (N121DE) currently the oldest in the fleet.

Does anyone know if any airlines ever operated DC-10s or L-1011s with PTVs in economy?

[Edited 2008-02-18 17:44:01]


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User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8416 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3350 times:

NW had PTVs in their 747-200s in around 1993-94.

They included an emulated Super Nintendo system in each PTV... (!)


User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3338 times:



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 3):
Some of Delta's Transcon 757s date back to 1985, including the Pink Breast Cancer Awareness aircraft, N610DL.

Delta's domestic 767-300s are also getting PTVs, and those aircraft date back to 1987, with ship 121 (N121DE) currently the oldest in the fleet.

He means aircraft with PTV's years ago. DL's planes are older, but with new PTV's. This thread is about PTV's around way in the past.


User currently offlineAfay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3283 times:

That particular 732 is a trainer aircraft and doesn't have wings.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24917 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3274 times:



Quoting Aruba (Thread starter):
Here's a 732 with PTV's

WestJet's 732s never had PTVs to the best of my recollection.


User currently offlineKingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1611 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3242 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):
WestJet's 732s never had PTVs to the best of my recollection.

Maybe not throughout, but the comment for the photo seems to indicate that the particular aircraft had a mishmash of different seats in the interior.



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User currently offlineKPWM From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2288 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3229 times:

Below is the actual aircraft in the first picture. It's used as a trainer and a few rows have been fitted with PTV's. For all I know, it never flew for WestJet.




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User currently offlineA380US From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3199 times:



Quoting Flighty (Reply 4):


NW had PTVs in their 747-200s in around 1993-94.

I didnt know that
But were these all aircraft or only the ones on the prime routs?



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User currently offlineAruba From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3143 times:

What about L-1011's, any airlines that had PTV's on them? 727's, A300 or A310. Not likely but what about 707?


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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5732 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3136 times:

Legend's DC-9-31's had PTV's, and they were 1970's builds. They were ex-Continental, and before that, Texas Air. Those were some nice birds, too! Do a search on Legend and Cabin Shots!

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 5):
He means aircraft with PTV's years ago. DL's planes are older, but with new PTV's. This thread is about PTV's around way in the past.

I doubt it, as PTV's weren't around twenty years ago.
I could ask if anyone was flying supersonic in the 1920's, but it would be a very useful discussion, would it?


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30641 posts, RR: 84
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3119 times:
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Swissair 111 had them in First Class and they were relatively new technology at the time of her loss in 1998.

User currently offlineJoseMEX From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 1539 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3100 times:

Mexicana had PTV's on their 727's in the early 90's.

User currently offlineTUNisia From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1844 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3016 times:



Quoting Flighty (Reply 4):
NW had PTVs in their 747-200s in around 1993-94.

I actually believe they started the PTVs in the first/business class sections in 1989 as a trial run. I swear I remember reading that somewhere on a.net!



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User currently offline1stfl94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 1455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2906 times:



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 3):
Does anyone know if any airlines ever operated DC-10s or L-1011s with PTVs in economy?

Freddie Laker's second Laker Airways in 1996 had PTVs in its DC-10s.


User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6447 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2707 times:



Quoting Aruba (Reply 11):
727's, A300 or A310.

A300 with PTVs:

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Not sure about the A310. However, as for the 727, I actually have never even seen a 727 with overhead video. Generally the only IFE that airlines offered on their 727s was just audio, or no IFE at all.



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User currently offlineEmirates773 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 40 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2659 times:

All EK A300-605R's & A310-304/308 aircraft had PTV fitted to them. I think they had around 6 or 8 channels of tv and 10 audio channels.

The second picture in the post above is ex EK A300-605R A6-EKD with their old PTV system. This aircraft is now operated by Tunis Air as TS-IPA.

[Edited 2008-02-19 08:09:55]


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User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8416 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2621 times:

Quoting TUNisia (Reply 15):
I actually believe they started the PTVs in the first/business class sections in 1989 as a trial run. I swear I remember reading that somewhere on a.net!

Sure I believe it. However in 93-94 it was small LCD TVs and credit card readers in every coach seat on these 742s. There was no charge because it was experimental.

I can't remember if they were gone by 95, 97. By 99 they were gone I think.

Found a June-94 NY Times article on this (!)....

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"...Now, passengers can choose from at least four movies, digital audio, a built-in telephone with fax capability, shopping channels and a channel with flight information on baggage, connecting gates and the weather at destination cities. The systems combine a small television screen, headphones and a remote control device that allows passengers to chose these options from an on-screen menu.

Typically, the airlines are offering some of the services free but charging for others. Nintendo games, for example, cost travelers $4 an hour on Northwest....

...It costs about $1.5 million to install the Hughes system on a wide-bodied jet, but the trend is giving high-tech aviation electronics companies a new market as their military business shrinks.

...Nintendo, whose system consists of 10 video games, including Super Mario All-Stars and Street Fighter II, said it would collect about $10 million in royalties a year from the airlines, beginning in 1996.

...Mark Abels, a spokesman for Northwest Airlines, said passengers liked the games, and the airline planned to put them on more planes. Northwest has installed the Nintendo games on eight 747-200's, which it uses on long-haul international flights, and it expects to add about 25 by year's end."
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... which never happened. I do remember playing Street Figher II however which was exceptional. Too bad 14 years later NW has no 747 PTV... they were cutting edge.

[Edited 2008-02-19 08:33:20]

User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3861 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2529 times:

Why did NW abandon the idea? Seems so strange that they had the system in 1993 but not 2008...

User currently offlineAruba From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2529 times:

Is AA 's 757's going to be fitted with the PTV's or no.


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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6447 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2463 times:



Quoting Aruba (Reply 21):
Is AA 's 757's going to be fitted with the PTV's or no.

No. However, they will be getting new LCD video monitors over the aisles, replacing the old CRTs.



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User currently offlineAruba From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2439 times:

Those big bulky TV's shake like crazy when there is turbulence... what about the flights from Boston to Manchester?
Do they have PTV's or no.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24917 posts, RR: 22
Reply 24, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2315 times:



Quoting Stitch (Reply 13):
Swissair 111 had them in First Class and they were relatively new technology at the time of her loss in 1998.

And business class. I was on a Swissair MD-11 GVA-JFK in business class about 10 days after the SR111 crash and remember thinking that it was the best IFEsystems I'd seen with by far the largest screens. It was one of the first "on demand" systems where you could start/stop/pause programming as you wished. The system was de-activated a little later after the SR111 investigation indicated a possible link to the cause of the fire, although I can't remember whether it was ever proven that the IFE system was directly involved.


25 Trekster : Now that is a small TV!!!!
26 Vasu : Here's another question... what are the smallest PTVs currently in service?
27 A300 American : Didn't AA's A300 at one time or another have PTVs? (those configured for "International" flights). They definately don't have them now.
28 1337Delta764 : Yes, the Panasonic 2000e system to be exact. These A300s today feature flip-down LCD monitors and seats with winged headrests. The A300s that have th
29 A300 American : Very interesting. THANKS Back in 2005, I flew in one of IB MD80s (Madrid to Barcelona) and remember seeing the silly TINY screens that fold down from
30 CHRISBA777ER : Yep was a good system actually - took one on a very nice trip BOS-LHR back in 1999 and it was a lovely flight.
31 Aruba : What about any russian planes, do any of them have PTV's on them.....
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