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North American Airlines To End Scheduled Service  
User currently offlineBigPhilNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4076 posts, RR: 54
Posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5759 times:

"North American Airlines today announced that it will discontinue scheduled service between the United States and the cities of Lagos, Nigeria; Accra, Ghana; and Georgetown, Guyana. All flights in these markets will be completed by May 20, 2008."

Link: http://www.nycaviation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&p=82635#p82635


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User currently offlineRcardinale From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5544 times:

No surprise here as DL has invaded North Americans routes with daily service and excellent service at that. Hopefully they can continue to make money on charters.

User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5211 times:

Well you really cant compete with DL who offers 5weekly servcice to ACC and NA just offers one


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User currently offlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1452 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5171 times:

I believe this is part of the overall strategy by parent Global Aero Logistics to get all owned airlines including ATA out of scheduled service altogether due to high fuels costs, competition, and sporadic profitability.


35 years of American Trans Air/ATA Airlines, 1973-2008. A great little airline that will not be soon forgotten.
User currently offlineThirteenRight From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4821 times:

What happens to the NAA/Virgin Nigeria codeshare, I wonder?

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32732 posts, RR: 72
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4817 times:

Yet at the same time Delta is putting their JFK-LOS service on hold until at least December.


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User currently offlineLawnDart From United States of America, joined May 2005, 970 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4730 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5):
Yet at the same time Delta is putting their JFK-LOS service on hold until at least December.

But they've just announced 4x weekly service to Georgetown from JFK...


User currently offlineTsnamm From United States of America, joined May 2005, 628 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4481 times:

They have been hard-standing their planes(both 757 and 767) next to Bldg 71 and behind Hangar 7 lately. Guess we'll have to see where they will deploy them, since planes sitting on the ground aren't making you any money.

User currently offlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4229 times:
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I predicted this about a year ago that North American would not be able to compete with DL on the West African routes. Their planes are older and have 1980s entertainment systems on what is an 11 hour flight to LOS. I hope that CO will end it's boycott of LOS and bring some healthy competition to the JFK - LOS route.


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User currently offlineFemialpha From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4035 times:

North American's pull out will put an end to the code share plans VK had but that might be a good thing. I did not hear one good thing about the service and that would have hurt VK. Looks like their only choice now is to wet lease if their US plans ever materialize.

User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5154 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3866 times:

North American can be proud of having opened and proven these routes. For the time being, they should be able to redeploy their 767s on military charter service. The latter of course has more peaks and valleys than does scheduled service, but they have the right plane to maximize profitability from that service, given the mileage rate paid by the military for its use. Let's hope that they can get some commercial charter opportunities for those aircraft when not in military use. The 757s, meanwhile, are optimal for numerous track charter opportunities, wet-lease and certain incentive charters. It's really going to depend upon the quality of their sales and marketing forces.

User currently offlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1452 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3695 times:



Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 10):
It's really going to depend upon the quality of their sales and marketing forces.

These have largely been already integrated amongst the 3 airlines under the Global umbrella. With the pending shut down of TZ scheduled ops as well, the burden is then to keep the following combined fleet active enough separate from the normal AMC business.

12 738
11 752
4 753
5 763
8 DC10
4 MD11

There will be some TZ 738 fleet reductions and perhaps the overall 752 fleet will shrink as well as Global pax fleet becomes exclusively a charter business.



35 years of American Trans Air/ATA Airlines, 1973-2008. A great little airline that will not be soon forgotten.
User currently offline767driver From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3462 times:



Quoting Tsnamm (Reply 7):
They have been hard-standing their planes(both 757 and 767) next to Bldg 71 and behind Hangar 7 lately. Guess we'll have to see where they will deploy them, since planes sitting on the ground aren't making you any money.

We always hardstand our aircraft at different spots during routine maintenance. They are redeploying the aircraft on military and charter routes. We could use the extra aircraft for the military flying. Also, during the summer we will be doing more JM sub-services and Club Med charters. NA is looking for more 76's, but the current lease rates are too high. Last time I heard they wanted 800K or more per month (which is rediculous). Once the 787 comes online, more 767's will be available at lower rates


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