Cruising From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 258 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 984 times:
As I said in the head, Mike Burtle of the Boeing Company will talk about new Boeing widebody products, such as 777-200LR, 777-300ER, 767-400ERX, and of course, 747X.
I think it will be a great opportunity to hear about Boeing's future plans on widebody aircraft. You get the chance to ask one of top managers in Boeing. Well, I am sure he won't give all the answers you want to hear, but he will give good answers.
Is Seattle such a great plance to live if you are into airplanes?
Cruising From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 258 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 926 times:
Mike Burtle gave an excellent presentation. He presented Long Range767-400ER, 767-300ERX, 777-200LR, 777-300ER, 747-400LR, and 747X. He showed us a lot different charts regarding cost index, market potential, and some new technologies will be implented in upcomming Boeing widebodies. He showed us a chart explain why Boeing belives market will be fragmented in the future. Well, after looking at the data he showed us, believe it or not, I was convinced that Boeing has very good argument on their prediction(market fragment).
Since he is the 777 guy, his topic was mainly on new 777s. The 777 will have enhanced landing gear system (I forgot its technical name), that will improve maximum takeoff weight. He also mentioned on overhead space utilization. Current 777's crew rest area is located underneath main cabin, but new 777 will have crew rest area in overhead area. According to him, overhead space of the front body section will have pilot rest area. By doing so, airlines can generates up to 4 more reveue business class seats. Aft overhead section will be for crew resting and the area can hold up to 14 beds. The area can be used as galley, storage and many more. The wingspan is extened and they will put raked tips.
He also showed us a chart showing where all of the Boeing widedodies and competitors are placed in the market. (The x-axis is "range" and y-axis is "# of Pax.")
After looking at that chart, I felt the 767 isn't in good shape, because A330-200 is in better market position. It is just my opinion. I wished I can show you the chart. If you see it, you will understand what I mean.
747X was usual thing. Pretty much what you heard from media.
Matter of new airplane issue, he gave us a patented PD statement: "We always study new airplane". He added, "I love to talk about new airplane, but sorry, can't tell you."
Somebody asked him about A380 cost saving compare to 747s. He said that Boeing believes Airbus' claim is bit exaggerated.
There was a lot of retired Boeing engineers and notably Gordon Mckinzie was there, too. In case you don't know him, he was UA representative of the 777 design team.
I conclude that it was a good marketing presentation by Mr. Burtle.