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JetBlue To Start SLC - LAS  
User currently offlineBayAreaBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 262 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4555 times:

Just Released.....

Go West With JetBlue: Now Offering Nonstop Service From Salt Lake City to Sin City


Daily Service to Las Vegas Begins May 1

Fares Start as Low as $49(a) Each Way

SALT LAKE CITY, Feb. 21, 2008 (PRIME NEWSWIRE) -- JetBlue Airways (Nasdaq:JBLU) will continue to add even more flights in the Western United States this spring with the launch of daily nonstop service between Salt Lake City and Las Vegas, beginning May 1. To celebrate its sixth destination from Salt Lake City, low-fare, high-flair JetBlue is offering an introductory fare of $49(a) each way for flights to/from Las Vegas.

"Our customers keep asking for more JetBlue service from Salt Lake City, and today we're thrilled to deliver with yet another new route," said Frankie Littleford, vice president of JetBlue's Salt Lake City-based reservations department. "We invite you to experience all that flying should be on your next trip to Las Vegas, or any one of JetBlue's six nonstop destinations from Salt Lake City. With JetBlue, a low fare and a great experience are a sure bet!"

Customer-favorite JetBlue now offers up to eight daily departures from Salt Lake City to Burbank, Las Vegas, Long Beach, New York/JFK, San Diego, and San Francisco.

JetBlue's new service between Salt Lake City and Las Vegas:


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7:55 p.m. - 8:15 p.m. 4:55 p.m. - 7:15 p.m.
(daily effective (daily effective
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User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1987 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4430 times:

So now that makes it four airlines on that route...WN, US, DL and B6.

Sustainability?


User currently offlineFanoftristars From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1615 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4402 times:

Should be fine.

SLC-LAS does well for all airlines on the route already. I see this spurring even more demand for the route. It's good to have another option and keep DL and WN honest...lol

Looking 14 days out on DL there are 7 flights a day with fares ranging from $175-226. It'd be nice to get those SLC-DEN fares to LAS.

And now begin the B6 Hub/focus city discussions from Gate A7...lol

[Edited 2008-02-21 07:59:52]


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User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4298 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4361 times:



Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 3):
So now that makes it four airlines on that route...WN, US, DL and B6.

Sustainability?

One flight a day isn't going to make much of a difference. I would have hoped for more frequency on this route by B6 but I guess that is being too greedy.



None shall pass!!!!
User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1987 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4351 times:



Quoting Fanoftristars (Reply 4):
And now begin the B6 Hub/focus city discussions from Gate A7...lol

That was my next question...

Someone's got to move over to the B concourse soon.


User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4435 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4246 times:
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Quoting Fanoftristars (Reply 4):
SLC-LAS does well for all airlines on the route already. I see this spurring even more demand for the route. It's good to have another option and keep DL and WN honest...lol

Incorrect. US is really struggling on the route. B6 will yieldwise as well.

Quoting Fanoftristars (Reply 4):
Looking 14 days out on DL there are 7 flights a day with fares ranging from $175-226. It'd be nice to get those SLC-DEN fares to LAS.

WN is $130 R/T with eight dailies.


User currently offlineJkudall From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4132 times:



Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 6):
Someone's got to move over to the B concourse soon.

No room there either.


User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 43
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4102 times:



Quoting Fanoftristars (Reply 4):
SLC-LAS does well for all airlines on the route already.

No, it really doesn't.

I would not be surprised in the least to see US drop LAS-SLC the way they did LAS-DEN.

The competitive shorthauls at LAS for US are simply bleeding money, which is why they reduced overall LAS capacity last year by nearly 25%, with more reductions I think to come.



I'm the expert on here on two things, neither of which I care about much anymore.
User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1987 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4069 times:

You think they'll pull a mini-PIT on LAS?

User currently offlineSpencerii From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3857 times:



Quoting Jkudall (Reply 6):
No room there either.

If DL/NW go together, Im sure the NW gate on the A concourse will be available Also, I think B6 has reached an
agreement with F9 to use their gate at certain times during the day.


User currently offlineSpencerii From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3857 times:



Quoting Jkudall (Reply 6):
No room there either.

If DL/NW go together, Im sure the NW gate on the A concourse will be used. Also, I think B6 has reached an
agreement with F9 to use their gate at certain times.


User currently offlineJayDub From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3828 times:



Quoting Spencerii (Reply 10):
If DL/NW go together, Im sure the NW gate on the A concourse will be used.

Also, if UA/CO get together, they would likely continue to operate out of Concourse B as well...leaving AA, B6, F9, and US on Concourse A. I could definitely see B6 opening up a larger operation on that end of the terminals if gates start to open up.


User currently offlineAmtrakGuy From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3796 times:

I would not be surprise this route will NOT last long. Once a day is not going to help unless they have connection flights.

User currently offlineSpencerII From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3780 times:



Quoting AmtrakGuy (Reply 12):
would not be surprise this route will NOT last long. Once a day is not going to help unless they have connection flights.

I would disagree. B6 will be putting packages together for SLC-LAS including LAS Hotels with their "Business Incentive Group", and the flight will operate at or near capacity always.


User currently offlineLowecur From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 585 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3738 times:



Quoting AmtrakGuy (Reply 12):
I would not be surprise this route will NOT last long. Once a day is not going to help unless they have connection flights.

B6 has a nice loyal following in SLC that has been clamoring for more destinations. Many followers had no other choice but to use WN when traveling to LAS, but will now opt for B6. The flt will do very nicely.

Quoting JayDub (Reply 11):
Also, if UA/CO get together, they would likely continue to operate out of Concourse B as well...leaving AA, B6, F9, and US on Concourse A. I could definitely see B6 opening up a larger operation on that end of the terminals if gates start to open up.

B2,4,6,8,10,12 are all general usage gates presently occupied by ExpressJet's - Delta Connection and Delta. I think the airport needs to consolidate a few of those gates for B6, and push some of those 145's over to the E concourse. I would hope the competition committee would stop bending over backwards for DL. They have done more than enough with C,D, and E.


User currently offlineFanoftristars From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1615 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3726 times:



Quoting A330323X (Reply 7):
No, it really doesn't.

I would not be surprised in the least to see US drop LAS-SLC the way they did LAS-DEN.



Quoting Iowaman (Reply 5):
Incorrect. US is really struggling on the route. B6 will yieldwise as well.

Well I stand corrected. Seems silly that WN is 8 daily 737, and DL is 7 Daily, 757, MD 90, CRJ-900, when the yields are that low. I know DL charges more on the route than WN historically, (and it looks like currently) but it seems their flights are always full. It's been since August since I was on WN to LAS, but the plane was full then, and I think my ticket was $185, purchased 21 days out (DL was $260 same flights).

So I wonder why they're trying that out? SAN and SFO were no-brainers in my mind.



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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4138 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3690 times:



Quoting Lowecur (Reply 14):
B6 has a nice loyal following in SLC that has been clamoring for more destinations. Many followers had no other choice but to use WN when traveling to LAS, but will now opt for B6. The flt will do very nicely.

The DL disliking crowd and the WN cattle-herd haters have united (no pun intended!) behind B6 at SLC!  biggrin 

Quoting Lowecur (Reply 14):
B2,4,6,8,10,12 are all general usage gates presently occupied by ExpressJet's - Delta Connection and Delta. I think the airport needs to consolidate a few of those gates for B6, and push some of those 145's over to the E concourse. I would hope the competition committee would stop bending over backwards for DL. They have done more than enough with C,D, and E.

The biggest thing the Salt Lake City Department of Airports can do is get their royal a$$es in gear and get going on the new comprehensive master plan. SLC desperately needs a new terminal and concourses with more mainline gates. If they do this, then perhaps SLC can become more like DEN and have some truly competitive airfares with DL, WN and B6 duking it out!



DELTA Air Lines; The Only Way To Fly from Salt Lake City; Let the Western Heritage always be with Delta!
User currently offlineFanoftristars From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1615 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3398 times:



Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 16):
The biggest thing the Salt Lake City Department of Airports can do is get their royal a$$es in gear and get going on the new comprehensive master plan. SLC desperately needs a new terminal and concourses with more mainline gates. If they do this, then perhaps SLC can become more like DEN and have some truly competitive airfares with DL, WN and B6 duking it out!

I think the people of SLC airport are trying to walk that thin tight rope between having a world class airport, and trying to keep landing fees and gate rental down so DL doesn't tell SLC to take a hike. My understanding is that DL was one of the biggest opponents of a new terminal, if it meant more expensive operations for them at SLC.



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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4138 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3362 times:



Quoting Fanoftristars (Reply 17):
I think the people of SLC airport are trying to walk that thin tight rope between having a world class airport, and trying to keep landing fees and gate rental down so DL doesn't tell SLC to take a hike. My understanding is that DL was one of the biggest opponents of a new terminal, if it meant more expensive operations for them at SLC.

Times and circumstances change in ten years. The current facilities are only designed to handle 10-12 million passengers per year. That figure already exists in O&D numbers for SLC, top that off with another 10 million and more in connection passengers, and you have the facility nightmare that is SLC. In essence SLC has the terminal space of YYC, yet the gate traffic of YVR. The biggest motives DL has with SLC right now is LCC control, meaning WN, B6 and F9 can only do so much and FL stays out. But as soon as a new terminal and concourses are built, then it becomes more open.
I really think DL was opposed to the change back n 1998 for something completely opposite of why WN was, even though both came out in opposition then. It is far from premature to do such now.  crowded 



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User currently offlineSurfrider1978 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3298 times:

with the addition of las-slc and bur-las (WN routes), is B6 slowly working it's way in on taking WN head to head

User currently offlineJetBlueAUS From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3213 times:



Quoting Surfrider1978 (Reply 19):
with the addition of las-slc and bur-las (WN routes), is B6 slowly working it's way in on taking WN head to head

With new route management at the helm, I do not think that JetBlue will try and avoid Southwest Airlines. If JetBlue really wants to grow, they cannot let Southwest be a hindrance. This can definitely be seen in their recent announced routes such as: AUS-FLL/MCO as well as the new LAS routes to BUR and SLC.



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User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8776 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3203 times:



Quoting Surfrider1978 (Reply 19):
is B6 slowly working it's way in on taking WN head to head

No, absolutely not. Even WN isn't making much money vs its non-fuel hedged position. I say that only to suggest B6 has nothing to gain from competing vs WN in general.

B6 is trying to build up SLC into a focus city like Frontier has at DEN (as their hub). SLC is smaller so B6 is thinking 30 to 40 flights at SLC let's say.

LAS is a high volume route. At small risk, B6 can start it to experiment with their SLC focus idea. This is not about WN. Nobody is going to unseat WN in a market like this, where they have history.

US does LAS-SLC only to support their "hub" at LAS which as noted has not been exactly a fortress. Their motives for the route are weak.

DL's motives on SLC-LAS are very strong. The SLC hub requires good LAS service (unlike the case of US).

This is B6 encroaching on DL's territory. B6 has eyes on SLC. Expect DL to make sure these efforts fail.


User currently offlineOcracoke From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 695 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3087 times:



Quoting Lowecur (Reply 14):
B6 has a nice loyal following in SLC that has been clamoring for more destinations.

nice loyal following = all the stay at home res agents in the SLC area!
 duck   Wink


User currently offlineAv8tor From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3059 times:

Honest question: If you had the choice between B6/DAL/WN on an equal length trip, equal ticket price, and you had no previous frequent flier miles on any of the carrier's, who would you prefer to fly on. Base your answer solely on comfort.

User currently offlineOcracoke From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 695 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3048 times:



Quoting Av8tor (Reply 23):
Honest question: If you had the choice between B6/DAL/WN on an equal length trip, equal ticket price, and you had no previous frequent flier miles on any of the carrier's, who would you prefer to fly on. Base your answer solely on comfort.

Hard question to answer, as WN only flies the 737 type, B6 has the Ejets and A320s, while DL has a boatload of different aircraft. Personally, I find the MD-88 the best of the bunch, but that is my opinion, so I'd have to vote with DL, everything else being equal. Someone else might like the Embrarers, or need IFE, or like canyon plue paint. To each his own. Tough question to answer.


User currently offlineSpencerII From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 25, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2986 times:

Quoting Av8tor (Reply 23):
Honest question: If you had the choice between B6/DAL/WN on an equal length trip, equal ticket price, and you had no previous frequent flier miles on any of the carrier's, who would you prefer to fly on. Base your answer solely on comfort.

On this route (roughly a 60-75 minute flight) for being comfortable & avoiding the proverabial "Cattle CarLike treatment, I would choose WN, because the gate/waiting area in SLC for B6 is horrendously inadequate. Four airlines Frontier, NorthWest, Continental & jetBlue are all competing for seating in the gate areas at the end of the A concourse--then add AA and US just 25 steps away, and you have this huge build up of people all creating this maze of human congestion etc. & literally no place to sit down or hardley even walk. (you oughta see it when there are 2 or 3 flights waiting to board and one of them have an arrival--deplaning & those waiting all about the place causes a real crowd of confusion)- most cities have capacity controls in public waiting areas and buildings but the A concourse in SLC I guess is exempt from any type of capacity controls.

Then over on the Delta side, you have their flight banks with hoards of people running up & down their narrow concourses trying to get to their CRJ flights and SkyWest agents getting on the PA system making all kinds of announcements that can hardly be understood-- each annoucement competing for the next 15-30 seconds available, and airport carts honking to get out of the way coupled with Gate areas that cannot accomodate everyone to be seated. At least once you reach the WN gates at the end of the B concourse, there is much more calm and order than anywhere else in the terminal (except of course for Deltas Crown Room)

All this being said, The SLC A concourse is better than the B6 arrangement in Long Beach, where the gate areas are the most inadquate I have ever seen almost anywhere, and the damp area with their low cottage cheese covered ceilings reminds me of some of the bus stations you would see in places like Haiti.

[Edited 2008-02-23 04:30:31]

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