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User currently offlineJDAirCEO From Uruguay, joined Jan 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 7 months ago) and read 2842 times:

Anyone have information on the cabin upgrades? I know the onboard internet is scheduled to start this year, will this be rolled out along with other upgrades?

I know F has new seat coverings and will get an addational seat, but will they be new seats?
Will J get new seats?
Will the new wall panels be on the whole acrft or just in F/J like the 763?
I havent herd anythng about this, but are the lavs going to be updated?

This is one acraft I hear regular passenger complaints about. Rarely will an average passenger complain about the condition of an acrft, but its very commen lately.


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User currently offlineCMHFlyGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months ago) and read 2827 times:

The only thing I've seen on AA's upgrades is on their official site for it: http://theflagshipexperience.com/

I'm assuming this will be part of the 762s as well... it doesn't seem to specify, or I'm missing it!


User currently offlineAruba From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2739 times:

PTV's?? By any chance? I think AA need to get some PTV's on there 757's or 767's , the 777's are equipt with them.... so why not the others.


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User currently offlinePixpixpix From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2704 times:

From AA 2007 Analyst Conference, Dan Garton EVP Marketing http://www.shareholder.com/aa/presentations.cfm

Plans are underway to refurbish the B767-200 transcontinental aircraft

– American has a distinct competitive advantage by operating wide-body aircraft in the JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO markets Plans are underway to refurbish the B767-200 transcontinental aircraft

Phase I (2007)
New dress covers for first and business class seats
Personal entertainment devices in premium cabins
Amenity kits for red-eye travelers

Phase II (2008)
New first class seats and an additional seat
New sidewalls
Replacing CRT monitors with LCD screens
Replacing tape players with digital file servers



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User currently offlineJDAirCEO From Uruguay, joined Jan 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2517 times:

You know I remember Garton's comments now.

The current J style seats are sufficient for the market, but new covers would be a welcome update.
I'm wondering if the new wall panels will be through out and if the LCD screens will be in coach as well?

Coach should be getting these upgrades due to the high number of elites that sit in back because they counted on their upgrades to get them to J. Also, while these arent on the same level as jetBlue or Virgin with comfort and entertainment, it helps close that gap ever so slightly.



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User currently onlineAA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2363 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2454 times:



Quoting JDAirCEO (Thread starter):
This is one acraft I hear regular passenger complaints about. Rarely will an average passenger complain about the condition of an acrft, but its very commen lately.

The 762 is in way better shape than the A300/757. These two aircraft are the bottom of the barrel in terms of interiors. The A300 is taped up, and could use a complete makeover. Walls,seat covers,restrooms, and carpets, all have to be replaced. The 757 needs all the above as well as new seats. The 757 is used on some long segments, and it is a sardine can that needs a serious upgrade.



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31001 posts, RR: 86
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2444 times:
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Quoting JDAirCEO (Thread starter):
I know F has new seat coverings and will get an addational seat, but will they be new seats?


EDIT - DeltAirLines set me straight in Reply 9. Thanks!

[Edited 2008-02-24 09:34:29]

User currently offlineQQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2282 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2427 times:

Phase II of the upgrades is to begin in May 2008 and continue through January 2009. Phase II entails replacing the sidewalls throughout the aircraft, removal of all projectors, video screens and monitors, which will be replaced with widescreen LCDs. First class will get for the former lie-flat seats from the 763 F-class, plus the additional seat. New PED entertainment devices have already been introduced in F and J. There won't be any further changes to the seats in J and Y. There is no information contained about lav makeovers on the information sheet I have. I wouldn't be surprised if they're given new/updated laminate (if not already done).

As for the former 763 F-class seat, these will be perfect for the market. They are a very new, modern product that was used a very short time onboard the 763s and are in excellent condition. I am shocked AA didn't dump/sell them after they were pulled from the 763... I say this because after 9/11 AA sold all of our metal flatware because we "didn't have room to store it." What? We're talking forks, knives and spoons! This is why it took us so long to get metal flatware back... they needed to budget to buy new stuff. Thank goodness we still have those 763 F-class seats, otherwise, I don't know if the 762s would have ever been upgraded.



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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11637 posts, RR: 61
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2418 times:



Quoting QQflyboy (Reply 7):
They are a very new, modern product that was used a very short time onboard the 763s and are in excellent condition.

Those 763 F seats were quite comfortable, actually, from what I remember (it's been about 5 years). And yes, they'll be the perfect seats for the JFK-LAX/SFO market.

Quoting QQflyboy (Reply 7):
AA sold all of our metal flatware because we "didn't have room to store it." What? We're talking forks, knives and spoons!

Great planning!

Quoting QQflyboy (Reply 7):
Thank goodness we still have those 763 F-class seats, otherwise, I don't know if the 762s would have ever been upgraded.

They've probably been sitting in a warehouse in Tulsa or something like that. I know that's where the put a lot of the old Super 80 F seats (the hideous brown leather ones) when they replaced them with the blue cloth ones around 1999-2000.


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8902 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2412 times:



Quoting Stitch (Reply 6):

They'd have to be new to go from 2+1+2 to 2+2+2. This means seat widths will reduce from 21" to 19". Guess I shouldn't carp so much about p.s. on UA.

They're still going to be 2-1-2 configuration. It's just that instead of having one seat with aisles on both sides (the famed "Wooly Mammoth Chair", there will be a seat behind it. It will be 2 rows of 2-1-2. No sacrifice in seat width.


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31001 posts, RR: 86
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2408 times:
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Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 9):
They're still going to be 2-1-2 configuration. It's just that instead of having one seat with aisles on both sides (the famed "Wooly Mammoth Chair", there will be a seat behind it. It will be 2 rows of 2-1-2. No sacrifice in seat width.

Excellent.  thumbsup 


User currently offlineQQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2282 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2190 times:



Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 9):
They're still going to be 2-1-2 configuration.

Yes, in fact, the center closet, galley space and credenza are all being removed to allow more room for the additional seat. A new closet is going to be installed to replace the old one... probably along the lines of the new closets onboard the 763.



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User currently offlineJDAirCEO From Uruguay, joined Jan 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2160 times:

These upgrades should really place AA firmly ahead of the competition for transcon F/J. Adding another seat in F will be good, so many people hate that center seat.

On a side note. Glad to see the different upgrades on 777 and 763 still include bulkhead coverings, it may be carpet or plastic, it looks so much better than carriers with white walls. I believe it helps enforce the AA brand and it's colors, not that every other airline doesnt use blue and red.

Whats up with the new menus? I dont care for the new paper, the other card stock like paper looked better.



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User currently offlineSeabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5467 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2087 times:

No PTVs. The 762s will be getting overhead LCD monitors.

Quoting Commavia (Reply 8):
I know that's where the put a lot of the old Super 80 F seats (the hideous brown leather ones)

Someone mentioned something about the 757 refurbishments needing to be done yesterday?  Wink


User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1949 times:

I've read some threads around here the past few months which have said that the 757s are getting interior upgrades later this year and the whole fleet to be finished within the coming years. There will be new coach seats, bulkheads, LCD monitors and supposedly first class seats as well. They needed these interiors about 10 years ago.


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User currently offlineQQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2282 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1938 times:



Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 14):
They needed these interiors about 10 years ago.

Very true. They were to get new interiors sometime in 2002-2004 time frame as they were the next a/c to get new interiors after the F100s. AA launched a cabin makeover scheme in the late '90s that was to include all a/c. First, the 727s got the new, dark blue seat covers while the MD-80 was the first a/c to get the entire makeover. After the MD-80s were finished, the F100 was up. AA had ordered 15 refurb kits by the time 9/11 happened. They took delivery of and installed those kits, but never ordered the remaining 60. The 757 was next after the F100... but never made it. The prototype 757 with the new interior should be out in September 2008. Mods will be completed in mid-2011. It will have all new seats in F and Y, the Panasonic eFX digital IFE system (currently on 763s, soon to be on 762s), LCD monitors, new sidewalls and refurbished lavs. Also, two additional F-seats are going to be added, bringing the f-class capacity to 24.

One thing is for sure, these mods can't happen quick enough and I am anxious to see the prototype.



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User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1908 times:



Quoting QQflyboy (Reply 15):
One thing is for sure, these mods can't happen quick enough and I am anxious to see the prototype.

Me too. Which reminds me, when are the new 738 deliveries going to start? And are the existing 738s with CRT's going to get the new 757 interiors as well (seats and LCD screens?) I was on a 738 last week from DFW-LAX and while it was a great ride, I saw the loose paneling from the overhead bins around the cabin. I'd figure quite a few would be due for D-checks pretty soon.



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