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User currently offlinePlaneGuy27 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 314 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5218 times:

Press Release
Source: AirTran Airways


Mission Accomplished: AirTran Airways Announces New Service in San Antonio
Monday February 25, 12:00 pm ET




- Airline Asks Residents to Remember Its Flights and Low Fares in the 'Alamo City' -

ORLANDO, Fla., Feb. 25 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- AirTran Airways, a subsidiary of AirTran Holdings, Inc. (NYSE: AAI - News), today announced plans to begin service to San Antonio, Texas on June 11, 2008. With San Antonio as the airline's 58th destination, the expanding low-fare carrier will offer four roundtrip nonstop flights between San Antonio International Airport and Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport. The route will be served by AirTran Airways' popular Boeing 717-200 aircraft, which seats 117 passengers (12 in Business Class and 105 in coach).

"AirTran Airways' mission is to bring down fares. We want to give residents the opportunity to travel, while simultaneously encouraging tourists to visit the historic Alamo and the River Walk in San Antonio," said Kevin Healy, senior vice president of marketing and planning for AirTran Airways. "We're excited to provide San Antonio's business and leisure travelers access to popular destinations across the country as well as the opportunity to fly America's youngest all-Boeing fleet."

"This is tremendous news for air travelers in San Antonio," said Mark Webb, aviation department director for San Antonio International Airport. "AirTran Airways has an impeccable record when it comes to customer service and on-time operations, and they're going to be bringing the low-cost model to one of the most popular destinations in the San Antonio market, Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport."

In addition to the nonstop flights, AirTran Airways connects to 46 destinations through Atlanta, including attractive flights for the business traveler to New York, Washington D.C. and Boston. AirTran Airways also offers connections to popular vacation destinations such as Orlando, Tampa and San Juan.

The following nonstop flights between San Antonio and Atlanta will be available beginning June 11, 2008, unless otherwise indicated:

Nonstop Service from San Antonio to Atlanta

From To Flight Departs Arrives Frequency
San Antonio Atlanta 658* 6:30 a.m. 9:55 a.m. Daily
San Antonio Atlanta 654 12:20 p.m. 3:45 p.m. Daily
San Antonio Atlanta 652** 2:35 p.m. 6:00 p.m. Daily
San Antonio Atlanta 650 5:10 p.m. 8:35 p.m. Daily

* Effective June 12, 2008.
** Effective July 9, 2008.


Nonstop Service from Atlanta to San Antonio

From To Flight Departs Arrives Frequency
Atlanta San Antonio 657 10:30 a.m. 11:45 a.m. Daily
Atlanta San Antonio 653** 12:45 p.m. 2:00 p.m. Daily
Atlanta San Antonio 651 3:20 p.m. 4:35 p.m. Daily
Atlanta San Antonio 647 9:20 p.m. 10:35 p.m. Daily

** Effective July 9, 2008.

Following is a sample of fares* AirTran Airways will offer for its new flights to/from San Antonio. Travel on introductory fares must be booked by April 14, 2008, for travel through July 9, 2008. Fares listed are one way, available daily and are valid in either direction:

Destination Introductory Lowest Walk- Lowest Business
Fare up Class
Atlanta $79 $239 $349

AirTran Airways, a Fortune 1000 company, offers more than 700 affordable, daily flights to 58 U.S. destinations. With 8,900 friendly Crew Members and America's youngest all-Boeing fleet, AirTran Airways provides XM Satellite Radio and Business Class seating on every flight. For more information and free online booking, visit http://www.airtran.com.

* All fares are one-way. Introductory sale fare and lowest walk-up fare are non-refundable, and a $75 fee per person applies to any change made after purchase plus any applicable increase in airfare. Reservations may be obtained or changed through an AirTran Airways Telephone Reservations Center for an additional $10.00 per person. Introductory sale fares must be purchased by April 14, 2008. Travel must be completed by July 9, 2008. Fares, routes, and schedules are subject to change without notice. Fares do not include per- segment tax of $3.50. A segment is defined as one takeoff and one landing. The September 11th security fee of up to $10 is not included. Airport Passenger Facility Charges of up to $18 are not included.

Media Contacts: AirTran Airways
Tad Hutcheson
Judy Graham-Weaver
Quinnie Jenkins
678.254.7442




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Source: AirTran Airways

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User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6729 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5172 times:

Nice choice by FL. I guess they still have a little more gate space at ATL.

The sad thing is that if it wasn't for gate limitations, there's probably at least another 20+ cities FL could serve from ATL.


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7632 posts, RR: 43
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5096 times:

Good news for SAT. I only have to wonder if offering three daily flights from day one and one additional daily frequency less than a month after launch is not too many seats.


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5592 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5052 times:

Congrats to SAT; that's what, 2 or 3 new carriers already this year? Not a bad start to 2008!

Extra special bonus I noticed in this FL announcement: nothing was said about "seasonal" service! (Maybe they've finally realized they shouldn't automatically label most new markets as "seasonal"...  Wink )

Maybe MKE, IND, and/or MCO will be next?

bb


User currently offlineCitrusCritter From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1131 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5047 times:

I'm kind of surprised by this given the gate limitations we hear about at at ATL. I was expecting another destination to be served out of BWI such as SYR. If they're going with some Texas cities, can I get ELP on the menu please?  Wink

User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1972 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5045 times:

Great...just great. I'm about to depart RND for TIK and they decide to start service to the city I'm leaving. C'mon FL, START OKC!!!!

User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4716 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4734 times:

Worked out quite well with their VP who was in SAT today speaking at an air service conference. His presentation went, we serve 57.... wait make that 58 cities... as the power point slide drew a line from ATL-SAT.

Im looking forward to low fares to SAT because i'll definatley want to come back.



Experience is what you get when what you thought would work out didn't!
User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23299 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4645 times:



Quoting SANFan (Reply 3):
Maybe MKE, IND, and/or MCO will be next?

FL doesn't do a whole lot of Florida flying from west of, say, St. Louis. With WN already flying to TPA, MCO, and BWI, FL's expansion prospects, at least to the 'usual suspects,' will be somewhat limited. Nevertheless, SAT is a fairly large and comparatively underserved city (as compared to Dallas, Houston, and even Austin), so I think SAT-ATL should do well.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 3):
Extra special bonus I noticed in this FL announcement: nothing was said about "seasonal" service! (Maybe they've finally realized they shouldn't automatically label most new markets as "seasonal"

ATL flights are largely immune from the 'seasonal bug.'



I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlinePensacolaguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 548 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4606 times:

Congratulations to SAT! Anyone know which terminal FL will use? Terminal 1 or 2. Delta currently flies 8x daily between SAT and ATL. And I'm sure FL will manage to steal some of their market share. I checked for fun the airfare between PNS and SAT and I received $320 RT on FL. The cheapest out of all the airlines. (DL was $571 RT)

What do the O & D #'s look like from SAT to a Airtran served city? Ex..SAT>CLT,DCA,BOS,TPA...


User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1972 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4601 times:

So what gate? Unless they split Gate 2 with F9/YX/MX/AM, there aren't any gates available. Then again, I never understood why DL has three gates at SAT...maybe they'll give up one to FL (insert laughter here).

User currently offlineMKE22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1148 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4565 times:

Well thats FL's 2nd new city this year (not counting SJU) already. I have heard they may add 2-3 more.


If Your not pissed, your not trying
User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4588 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4546 times:



Quoting SANFan (Reply 3):
Maybe MKE, IND, and/or MCO will be next?

It won't be IND. NW starts IND-SAT on May 2nd. There isn't enough demand for 2 carriers. There is barely enough for a single CRJ-200.



Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
User currently offlineCitrusCritter From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1131 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4527 times:



Quoting MKE22 (Reply 10):
Well thats FL's 2nd new city this year (not counting SJU) already. I have heard they may add 2-3 more.

I still have money on SYR as the only major market in NY not served by WN or FL.


User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3826 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4501 times:

Quoting MKE22 (Reply 10):
Well thats FL's 2nd new city this year (not counting SJU) already. I have heard they may add 2-3 more.

Here's hoping that FWA is one of them... not only have I heard the rumor for eons, we were in the top 5 cities in an FL poll back in late 2006, FWA is offering a great incentive package, and they'll give the widget some much-needed competition on ATL flights. And the IND cross-cannibalization would be minimal, especially if they offered BWI service, where there is no competition from WN like at IND (or virtually anyone else at FWA for that matter). FWA has wanted DC-area service for eons, even moreso than NYC-area service, and BWI on AirTran would fit the bill perfectly...

Maybe 2x daily ATL/BWI and daily MCO on 717s would be a good start...

[Edited 2008-02-25 16:13:49]


"Did he really need the triple bypass? Or was it the miles?"
User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5592 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4244 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 7):
ATL flights are largely immune from the 'seasonal bug.

From 2007 FL Press Release:
"ORLANDO, Fla., Jan. 23 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- AirTran Airways, a subsidiary of AirTran Holdings, Inc. (NYSE:AAI), today announced plans to begin seasonal service at San Diego International Airport (SAN). Starting May 24, 2007, the growing low-fare carrier will connect what San Diegans claim is "America's Finest City" to another world-class location, Atlanta."

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 7):
FL doesn't do a whole lot of Florida flying from west of, say, St. Louis

From another 2007 FL Press Release:
"ORLANDO, Fla., March 6 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- AirTran Airways, a subsidiary of AirTran Holdings, Inc. (NYSE: AAI), announced today that it will expand its service from Orlando International Airport by adding new flights to San Diego, Calif., one of its recently announced new destinations, effective June 29, 2007."

Sorry Cubbie, you fell right into my evil trap!  Wink

But seriously, I can't as easily find other examples (especially of the "seasonal" thing, except that the SEA station is completely seasonal -- with good reason of course) but my own city provided a fairly good basis for my remarks: ATL certainly shouldn't be seasonal to anywhere south of the Mason-Dixon Line (as extended to the Pacific Coast) and that's why I was so knocked over when they announced San Diego as they did!

Epilogue: SAN-ATL did NOT turn out to be a seasonal route after all, of course, and SAN-MCO is ending next month...

bb


User currently offlineN200WN From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 784 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4026 times:



Quoting PlaneGuy27 (Thread starter):
Mission Accomplished: AirTran Airways Announces New Service in San Antonio
Monday February 25, 12:00 pm ET

Great news! It's about time though as I've been asking when this service would start for several years. Nice to see SAT get a little attention as most of the news lately has been for AUS (and I still think Viva Aerobus would have been better suited to SAT than AUS).

Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 9):
So what gate? Unless they split Gate 2 with F9/YX/MX/AM, there aren't any gates available. Then again, I never understood why DL has three gates at SAT...maybe they'll give up one to FL (insert laughter here).

Good question. MX doesn't use Gate 2 and YX is going from three to two flights to MCI, so there is some room there for a new entrant (most likely NK). Express Jet is down to 14 flights and uses both Gates 8 and 9. They installed there own jetway on Gate 8 last summer and about a month or two ago the city installed a jetway at Gate 9. There is also a lot of room in that two gate area for another airline gate podium. Sounds like a good place for FL to me.

Other recent SAT news:

WN: PHL n/s starts in March and DEN in May. Also a 2nd SAN in March and a 2nd LAX in May bringing total to 52 departures.
NK: FLL starts in April with a 2nd flight in May
NW: IND starts in May with one r/t
US: CLT starts in May with two flights
MX: MTY started last December and from what the local MX agents tell me, the flight isn't doing well at all. I don't see this one lasting much longer.
And...in the food court, we have a new Dunkin' Donuts coming soon.


User currently offlineDolphinflyer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 204 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3962 times:

At the news conference, AirTran announced that SAT would be the final new city for the airline in 2008. Guess that all other new aircraft will be used to "connect the dots" for the balance of the year. The other wishful thinking will need to wait until 2009. Sorry, fellow Airliners!

User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3846 times:

Good news for FL! I hope this route does well for them. I wonder why they limited initial service to ATL only?


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User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1972 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3757 times:



Quoting N200WN (Reply 15):
There is also a lot of room in that two gate area for another airline gate podium. Sounds like a good place for FL to me.

But no room for a gate!


User currently offlineN200WN From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 784 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 3531 times:



Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 18):
Quoting N200WN (Reply 15):
There is also a lot of room in that two gate area for another airline gate podium. Sounds like a good place for FL to me.

But no room for a gate!

Another gate is not needed as Express Jet operates only 14 flights out of Gate 8 and 9. They mostly uses Gate 8 for their ops and Gate 9 only when they have two A/C on the ground. There should be room for FL's four new flights down there and there is room for their own gate podium, just as YX and F9 have their own podiums at Gate 2. In addition, the airport and AT&T just added another six or eight position power work station in that location so the setup would be nice.


User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1972 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3476 times:

But the problem with that is there's only enough room at either gate for an ERJ parked next to an ERJ...if FL and XE each had a plane there, no way it could work.

User currently offlineN200WN From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 784 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3421 times:



Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 20):
But the problem with that is there's only enough room at either gate for an ERJ parked next to an ERJ...if FL and XE each had a plane there, no way it could work.

Delta used to occupy both Gates 8 and 9 they ran mainline, even L-1011's, out of there. We (WN) even borrowed one of the gates to handle a diversion and there was no issue with the adjacent ERJ. Besides, both jetways are driveable so the j-lines coiuld be repositioned if needed.


User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1972 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3352 times:

I was told by the XE guys that RJ's were all those gates could fit, which is why they got em. I stand corrected.

User currently offlineN200WN From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 784 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3286 times:



Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 22):
I was told by the XE guys that RJ's were all those gates could fit, which is why they got em. I stand corrected.

Understandable, as most of the XE guys are new and haven't been at SAT for long. Those gates have been there since the terminal was built in 1984, before the advent of the RJ, so they were designed for mainline ops. Over at WN, we used one of those gates, along with DL, as RON parking up until XE started ops last year. Those gates have been unused and without jetways for many years (since DL moved to the other end of T1) so it's nice to see some action down there, whomever it is.


User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3155 times:

Does FL operate directional banks in ATL or do they operate a rolling bank?

25 Post contains images MKE22 : Dang and I was getting my hopes up! At least we got BTV and SAT.
26 AWACSooner : I'm not buying that they won't add anymore new cities this year. Mark my words: THEY WILL ADD AT LEAST TWO MORE!!!
27 B757capt : Rolling banks, really varies on schedule to schedule though....
28 CitrusCritter : Does anyone think they would consider connecting a southern station to BWI only? For some reason I really like ROA as an FL station, but I can't see
29 Flynboy747 : Any chance they come back to BDL??
30 Cubsrule : I don't see any reason why they wouldn't. At a station like ROA (and there are some others in this boat; TYS and GSP come to mind), DL is dominant en
31 FlyPNS1 : But CLT actually got service to both ATL and BWI from FL. I agree that some other Southern cities might do better launching BWI first. If FL ever ret
32 AWACSooner : I agree...WN would eat them for lunch on the other routes. WN has what...2 N/S to BWI and 2 N/S to MCO daily...and from what I've seen at the airport
33 Cubsrule : IIRC ATL started first, and then BWI started around when MDW did. That might be incorrect, though.
34 Cubsrule : My apologies... ATL and BWI actually started on the same day (5 May 2005). MDW began 9 June 2006.
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