EK413 From Maldives, joined Nov 2003, 1533 posts, RR: 1 Posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 17500 times:
Hey All,
Received this evening from sources serious corrosion issues have been detected on QF's VH-OJK while undergoing maintenance at AVALON. This is the first aircraft to under go cabin reconfiguration with the all NEW Premium Y/C cabin. Sources tell me the launch date has further slipped once to 5th of March operating the QF001 SYD-BKK-LHR route...
Let's keep our finger's crossed and hope -OJK recovers from her plastic surgery!
Decromin From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 48 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 17439 times:
-OJK is the only aircraft with the Y+ seats installed so far, yes?
Does anyone have any info on which planes will be next to get the treatment? I've booked a Y+ seat SYD-LHR in September, so hopefully a few more of the fleet will be up and running by then!
EK413 From Maldives, joined Nov 2003, 1533 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 17131 times:
Quoting Decromin (Reply 1): -OJK is the only aircraft with the Y+ seats installed so far, yes?
-OJK is the first Kangaroo aircraft to under go reconfigure... The delay was unexpected and due to the corrosion issues the Premium Y/C roll out has continued to slip...
Iv been told the entire Kangaroo fleet will be reconfigured and then the Pacific fleet which will be interesting considering the aircraft feature a configure of P14 / J 64 / Y265... The NEW configure will be P14 / C64 / W32 / Y215
QF175 From Australia, joined Mar 2007, 386 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 17013 times:
Quoting NA (Reply 7): Btw, will OJK be the first 747 carrying the modified livery?
Hello NA... VH-OJU is scheduled to be the first 747-400 to receive the revised livery. I understand the aircraft will be taken out of service around mid next week and should be back in service by April.
Quoting EK413 (Reply 6): Iv been told the entire Kangaroo fleet will be reconfigured and then the Pacific fleet which will be interesting considering the aircraft feature a configure of P14 / J 64 / Y265... The NEW configure will be P14 / C64 / W32 / Y215
I was under the impression the Pacific configured 747-400s would be fitted with up to 40W seats.
Quoting Decromin (Reply 1): -OJK is the only aircraft with the Y+ seats installed so far, yes?
Corrrect. VH-OJH and VH-OJP are scheduled to receive the upgrade next.
VH-OJK was supposed to recommence flying last Wednesday, 20th February. A 2 week delay must be a major headache for Qantas.
Cheers
You are flying with the Spirit of Australia - Qantas
N14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 935 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 16961 times:
Quoting EK413 (Thread starter): Received this evening from sources serious corrosion issues have been detected on QF's VH-OJK
Wonder if CNN will report about this now that we know they are interested in big airplanes with technical problems
Btw, somebody told me once that LH had to write off a B737 due to corrosion problems, which were caused by a leaking bottle of orange juice. Just another myth or could this be true?
NA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 6906 posts, RR: 8 Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 16897 times:
Quoting N14AZ (Reply 10): Quoting EK413 (Thread starter):
Received this evening from sources serious corrosion issues have been detected on QF's VH-OJK
Wonder if CNN will report about this now that we know they are interested in big airplanes with technical problems
If it can be fixed until early March it can´t be that serious that its a question of "do or die" for OJK.
Quoting N14AZ (Reply 10): Btw, somebody told me once that LH had to write off a B737 due to corrosion problems
Never heard about LH writing off an airplane due to corrosion. And orange juice as the reason sounds like an urban myth to me.
Flyboysp From Australia, joined Apr 2007, 715 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 16777 times:
Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 12): forgive my ignorance, but what is the difference between the 'Kangaroo' and 'Pacific' fleet? Which aircrafts belong to which group?
These are terms given to the configuration of the aircraft that serve the Kangaroo and Pacific route. Excluding HNL and the 3 times per week MEL-AKL-LAX flight, all Kangaroos route and US flights are flown by 747-400s and 747-400ERs.
In a 3 class configuration, the Pacific fleet generally has a higher J class seating capacity,whereas on the Kangaroo route 3 class configuration the J class capacity is reduced.
Flyboysp From Australia, joined Apr 2007, 715 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 16776 times:
Quoting Decromin (Reply 13): Quoting Flyboysp (Reply 2):
You will find this site quite useful. It has a plethora of useful and interesting information regarding QANTAS.
ClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 22 Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 16158 times:
Quoting QF175 (Reply 8): VH-OJK was supposed to recommence flying last Wednesday, 20th February. A 2 week delay must be a major headache for Qantas.
It may just be a matter of parts. If the corrosion was unexpected, presumably it's in an area of the cabin that has to do with the reconfig. Possibly somewhere unusual and they need to order parts in. That said, could be a large repair - would be interested to know exactly what is wrong.
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Selwoode From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 29 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 15284 times:
I suspect QF have dropped BNE-AKL-LAX in favour of a direct routing, I used to fly alot on QF 25 but It would seem that some services BNE-AKL are now 738 services not sure if QF still fly from AKL-LAX
GarethW From New Zealand, joined Apr 2006, 288 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 15100 times:
Quoting Selwoode (Reply 17): I suspect QF have dropped BNE-AKL-LAX in favour of a direct routing, I used to fly alot on QF 25 but It would seem that some services BNE-AKL are now 738 services not sure if QF still fly from AKL-LAX
QF25/26 operates MEL-AKL-LAX-AKL-MEL with a 2 class 744. The service is actually becoming a mix of the 744 and new 332 aircraft due to BNE-LAX going daily with a 2 class 744 also. You are correct that BNE-AKL services are a 738 and a 734 operated by Jetconnect out of NZ (QF's New Zealand subsidiary).
EMBQA From United States, joined Oct 2003, 8422 posts, RR: 19 Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 15023 times:
Quoting EK413 (Thread starter): Received this evening from sources serious corrosion issues have been detected on QF's VH-OJK while undergoing maintenance
So what.....?? I don't think there is a plane in the world that doesn't have corrosion somewhere on it. Entry Areas, Galleys, Lav areas and Cargo bays are all very prone locations. That is why Sheet metal Techs have jobs......If it's corroded, it can be fixed with ease.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
EK413 From Maldives, joined Nov 2003, 1533 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 14675 times:
Quoting QF175 (Reply 8): I was under the impression the Pacific configured 747-400s would be fitted with up to 40W seats.
The Premium Y/C cabin will be 32 seats... I have no source to back me up though if the product is successful as Qantas hopes it will be the product will be expanded through out the entire B744 fleet including the 2 class aircraft...
Quoting QF175 (Reply 8): VH-OJK was supposed to recommence flying last Wednesday, 20th February. A 2 week delay must be a major headache for Qantas.
It has been a headache for Qantas... The NEW product was originally to be launched on the QF001 - QF031 - QF127 and now it has reverting back to the original plan, QF001...
Quoting NA (Reply 11): If it can be fixed until early March it can´t be that serious that its a question of "do or die" for OJK.
I never quoted it was do or die situation for -OJK... I was just updating why the launch of Premium Y/C has been delayed...
Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 12): forgive my ignorance, but what is the difference between the 'Kangaroo' and 'Pacific' fleet? Which aircrafts belong to which group?
Specific configuration of aircraft which operate certain routes as Flyboysp pointed out...
QF744ER From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 243 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 14247 times:
Thanks for posting EK413.
It's funny how this thread seems to of digressed away from the original topic and the same usual QF questions get asked that get asked in every 2nd QF thread!
Funny it's -OJK, I flew QF32 SIN-LHR in this a/c late 2003 and just after rotation out of SIN that moisture started pouring from the overhead bins on the left side of the aircraft in the aft ecomony section. The pilot came on and said it was due to the humidity.
Also QF175 tar for the info about -OJU. For those interested it's -OJU's first paint since delivery in 01/2000!! It's just a pity they also don't paint OJA/OJG/OJH also....
MrBrightSide From United States, joined Jan 2008, 202 posts, RR: 1 Reply 25, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 13574 times:
Well, the Kangaroo does not look as bad as I originally thought... it is good to see it spilling over to the main body... and that there are no connecting points with the edges... if the drawing is correct, of course.
Disclaimer: 2D images always look different when put in 3D, so it may look ugly in the end.
There's no better way to travel than fly (shameless rip of LH's slogan ;-)
26 CPHGuard: Does anyone know the age of the aircraft?
29 Thegeek: Isn't first class likely to be gone from 744s once all the A380s are here? (OK, perhaps First Class to South America is a possibility.) If that's a gi
30 Pellegrine: Well that had to do with something called oxalyl chloride, similar to phosgene, shipped in error by a Chinese national firm ( they paid MH US$65M). J
31 EK413: First class will remain on all Kangaroo and Pacific aircraft... Qantas have aircraft already configured in 2 class to operate exclusively on the SYD-
32 Thegeek: That's exactly my point though! All Kangaroo and Pacific aircraft, except SFO/HNL, will become A380. SFO doesn't justify a 744, IMHO, a 2 class 787-9
34 Airnewzealand: Incorrect...JNB is a 3-class destination year round...however when QF were having maintinence checks carried out on its 3-class aircraft...2-class ai
35 SXDFC: As someone who's not familiar to Qantas, can someone explain the Kangaroo and Pacific a/c - is it kind of like what CO has with their 764's - the Haw
36 Jamie86: The flights i have done from SFO to SYD have been pretty full, especially up the front of the plane. So i would say there would be good enough reason
38 Flyboysp: Thanks for the correction, i just had this weird feeling as i was typing it.
39 Zkpilot: The Kangaroo fleet feature smaller business classes but larger economy and fly the "Kangaroo Route" from Oz to the UK. The Pacific fleet feature a la
40 Mendaero: The current company memo has Kangaroo: F14/J50/W32/Y225 Pacific: F14/J64/W40/Y187 No word on 2 class aircraft Regards Mendaero
41 Thegeek: I'd guess I'd been basing that on one comment from a QF insider that when he came from SFO in F, all of F was staff travel. Obviously, that's not a p
42 Zkpilot: Not necessarily staff travel, but F cabin is often taken up by Frequent Flyers upgrading from business using points and if space is available then st
43 EK413: Apologises, Pacific and Kangaroo are terms used by Qantas to address aircraft operating specific routings... Pacific operate the US bound flights and
44 Crosscheck: Is it true, that at the same time as installing the Premium Economy Cabin on the 744 aircraft, Qantas are also putting 2 additional Business Class sea
45 EK413: Yes, To answer your question QF are installing an addional 2 seats in J/C across the fleet... The plain and simple reason behind this is to increase
46 AA767LOVER: Is this a major issue with 744's? I'm flying outbound from LHR-HKG on BA and back on QF. Hopefully these corrosion problems will be sorted out by Sept
47 Ikramerica: The Kangaroo fleet has to make a stop, so it HOPS from Australia to Europe. The Pacific fleet flies over the Pacific Ocean. It's a potential problem
48 Kiwiandrew: so when this comes out of refit will it still have the now old fashioned Skybed or will it have real lie flats ? apologies if this has already been a
49 Zkpilot: They will still have the V1.0 Skybeds... only the A380 and possibly 787 will have the V2.0 flat Skybeds. To put the new V2.0 Skybeds in 744 would inv
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