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US Airways To Charge $25 For 2nd Checked Bag  
User currently offlineRW170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 430 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 10671 times:

Following in UA's footsteps, US Airways is going to begin charging $25 for the 2nd checked bag. Dividend Miles Preferred members will be exempt along with First and Envoy class passengers, Star Alliance Silver and Gold members, active duty military, and UMs.

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....rticle_print&ID=1112456&highlight=

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/2008-02-26-usair-bag_N.htm

[Edited 2008-02-26 13:00:03]


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User currently offlineBomber996 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 10607 times:

One word: DUMB!!

-Peace  box 



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 10595 times:

What kills me is these carriers (UA/US) are not the most favored to begin with, and are only pissing off the few remaining loyal customers they have.


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineAdam T. From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 957 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 10505 times:

oh wow...... another reason for me to diss US and stick with CO.

User currently offlineFFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 733 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 10501 times:

Hopefully others are not going to follow.

User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 10404 times:

What I find hilarious is how these legacy carriers think they have more value added than the LCCs

User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 10375 times:



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 5):
What I find hilarious is how these legacy carriers think they have more value added than the LCCs

At one time they might have, now it is hard to tell who is a full service and who is a LCC's. Yeah I know airport lounges and superior FF programs make the full service carriers all that and a bag of chips.



You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32723 posts, RR: 72
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 10342 times:

I don't think it will have an effect on passengers, for the most part, but it will effect a handful of travelers, myself included. I will not consider flying UA and US if they are going to charge for extra bags.

However, if AA started charging for bags, I would still fly them - not because I agree with them - but because I have little other choice, especially considering the routes I travel most often (like LAX-ORD, MIA-LAX, MIA-LGA). And the same will be for the many who have little options but to fly US Airways - they will suck it up and stick with US, as much as they hate it.



a.
User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 10341 times:

While I applaud some of the moves airlines make in the desperate attempt to save money, I must question the logic (as I did in the United thread): Which would you rather have your employees dealing with - two small bags (roughly 25 lbs) or one large bag (up to 50 lbs)? On THIS point, the larger bag policy is illogical.

On the other hand, if $25 for all the extra junk a person wants to take breaks the bank, you shouldn't be flying in the first place.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32723 posts, RR: 72
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 10294 times:



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 8):

On the other hand, if $25 for all the extra junk a person wants to take breaks the bank, you shouldn't be flying in the first place.

It adds $200 to a family of four going on vacation - who will often fly with eight bags, especially to places like Orlando, Miami, and Las Vegas. That's significant.



a.
User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1902 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 10279 times:



Quoting RW170 (Thread starter):
active duty military

Good, cause I'd be plenty mad when I fly them to GEG for Survival school and they jacked me for all my gear!


User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 10202 times:



Quote:
It adds $200 to a family of four going on vacation - who will often fly with eight bags, especially to places like Orlando, Miami, and Las Vegas. That's significant.

Agreed - any chance of getting bigger suitcases? Since they only care about the number and apparently not the weight (up to 50 lbs), maybe it would be possible to stuff more in it?

It reminds me of the logic of Heathrow's "One Bag Only" policy through security - regardless of how big it is. Stuff it all into one humongous bag, then get through security, then unstuff it all on your way to the shops...er, excuse me, the departure gates.

It is going to hit some travellers harder than others - but so has the increase in fuel costs to airlines. I don't necessarily agree with the logic, but the airline will make that decision. This might mean people will choose other airlines, and rightfully so - I dislike NW's seating policy, so I don't fly them - but that's their decision to make.



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User currently offlineShannoninAMA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 10199 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):


It adds $200 to a family of four going on vacation - who will often fly with eight bags, especially to places like Orlando, Miami, and Las Vegas. That's significant.

Just for comparison: Heres our family of four's baggage


1 Individual Suitcase for each person
1 Mini-Suitcase for Anything else we need on the trip.

Thatd be 125$ extra. Itd be okay I guess, but if I found that out "On the spot" at the gate, I would be beyond pissed  Wink





Shan Big grin (Who is safe from this charge, in a city without US :P)


User currently offlineFFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 733 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 10166 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):
It adds $200 to a family of four going on vacation - who will often fly with eight bags, especially to places like Orlando, Miami, and Las Vegas. That's significant.

Two adults, two kids...eight bags plus carry-on?? People fly to the destinations you mentioned typically for a week. Who needs that amount of stuff for such a short trip? Our family of three goes to Europe every year for three to four weeks, and we never have more than four (plus carry-on) bags. Not that I like the UA/US idea here.


User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4390 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 10162 times:
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Another reason to fly WN.


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User currently offlineRW170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 430 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 10145 times:

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 11):
any chance of getting bigger suitcases?

Careful with that. There is a fee for any bag larger than 62". 62" - 80" is an extra $80. Anything over 80" is not accepted.  

But I think most airlines have similar policies.

Edit: Grammar

[Edited 2008-02-26 15:21:39]


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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22907 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10133 times:



Quoting RW170 (Reply 15):
Careful with that. There is a fee for any bag larger than 62". 62" - 80" is an extra $80. Anything over 80" is not accepted.

However, if the policy causes people to get closer to the limits (both in terms of size and in terms of weight) and/or carry more on, it seems that the effect may not be what US hopes for. Especially with respect to carryons, I do not know of any narrowbody that can accommodate the carryon limit for each passenger. That COULD lead to a lot of gate checking, which does not bring in revenue but does delay flights and require more ramper time per bag than does 'traditional' checking.



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User currently offlinePrinair From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 744 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10126 times:



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 8):
While I applaud some of the moves airlines make in the desperate attempt to save money, I must question the logic (as I did in the United thread): Which would you rather have your employees dealing with - two small bags (roughly 25 lbs) or one large bag (up to 50 lbs)? On THIS point, the larger bag policy is illogical.

Passengers rarely check in two small bags, most have large bags and are usually right at the weight limit (50lbs).
I applaud this move by UA/US, it is about time that people fly with a reasonable amount of bags and stop trying to bring all of their junk with them.

Just watch now how all of the others will eventually follow......



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User currently offlineSevenair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10103 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):
It adds $200 to a family of four going on vacation - who will often fly with eight bags, especially to places like Orlando, Miami, and Las Vegas. That's significant.

Oh please, families are always the 'victims'. So, Mother and Father are going to carry four bags each? I think not.


User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10054 times:



Quoting Sevenair (Reply 18):

Oh please, families are always the 'victims'. So, Mother and Father are going to carry four bags each? I think not.

No.. Do the Math. An average person has 1 carry on and 2 bags to check. So a family of four as mark stated, would equal 8.

On SWA, when we had the 3rd bag for free (now recently changed to 25 charge for 3rd bag), we would see families of four utilize the 3 bags free checked and saw 12 bags being checked for a trip to LAS or MCO or such vacation places.


Alex



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25126 posts, RR: 46
Reply 20, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10041 times:

I think the bottom line is that someone has to pay for the added hundreds of millions in cost that are going up at the airline, and product unbundling seems to be a low hanging fruit to drive additional revenues.

Here was todays letter to employees on the move.

Quote:
February 26, 2008

Dear US Airways Employee:

Today, US Airways announced that we're matching United Airlines' checked bag policy ($25 for the second checked bag) for travel after May 5. Even though other low-cost carriers have this policy, and even though our premium customers won't be charged for the second bag, you're likely to get questions from customers and co-workers. Let me share some of the reasons for this change with you -- both the short-term view and the longer term industry view.

In the short term, high fuel costs are our new reality. Oil topped $100 a barrel this month and it appears that the days of $30 or even $50-a-barrel oil are gone forever. The impact on the airline industry is very significant. In our case, higher fuel prices are projected to add $800 million to our expenses in 2008. When you consider that our entire profit in 2007 was $440 million (excluding special items), the impact is stark.

There are several ways to offset this impact. Raising fares is one way, but raising fares is only possible when supply and demand are balanced. When there are too many seats in the industry chasing too few passengers (as is the case today), passengers will move their business to other airlines with lower prices. This means we have to look for ways to 1) raise revenues to protect the financial health of the company, 2) stay competitive in the industry, and 3) give customers what they truly value.

This requires us to think about the business in ways we may not have five, 10 or 15 years ago.

That's where we are today. And we're moving carefully. Rather than issuing a blanket charge for any second bag, we've looked at it with a closer eye and will not charge our best customers --Dividend Miles Preferred or Star Alliance Silver or Gold members. Nor are we charging members of the military or our employees, or charging customers checking assistive devices.

This means that roughly 8 percent of our current customer base will be affected by the change. Even so, the impact on revenues and costs will be significant. We're looking at all aspects of the airline with an eye toward adapting our business to the needs of our customers, because not all customers want -- nor will they pay for -- the exact same product. That's why hotel chains like Marriott have several different kinds of brands that cater to different kinds of customers (a high-end Ritz-Carlton or more economical Fairfield Inn). We, too, have different "brands" for our customers -- upgraded international service, First Class and airport clubs, while also offering low book-ahead fares for leisure customers.

There are other examples of this "unbundled" approach in other industries. Hotels, for example, charge extra for amenities like bottled water, parking, use of the gym or telephone, etc. Rental car companies charge extra for navigation systems or satellite radio. At US Airways and other airlines, we also charge today for food in coach.

These business models reflect the reality that services cost money, and those who want and use them should pay for them.

Some critics may call this another example of airline customers being "nickel-and-dimed" for services that used to be provided as part of the flying experience -- food, entertainment, and now bags. But the airline industry of 2008 is very different from the industry of 1998 or 1988, and we have to be realistic -- and innovative -- about our product. I suspect that this will be a year when we see a lot of change in the industry -- mergers, acquisitions, and more "un-bundled" services rather than a "one product fits all" approach to our business.
The financial stability of the company and our employees' security rests on a more realistic assessment of airline life in 2008. Rather than wait for external factors to change, we have to take charge of our own destiny and ensure we're here for the long-term.

More details are being sent to the airports and are being posted on awaCompass, theHub and our newest web site, Wings. As always, if you have questions, let us know.

Scott Kirby




From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineNomadic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10034 times:



Quoting RW170 (Thread starter):
active duty military

How about merchant seamen? I am an officer on a cruise ship and am usually away for months at a time. I have no choice but to take two bags. I also don't have a choice of airlines as my company has special ticketing agreements with.......US Airways and United!

nomadic:?)


User currently offlineDrTrobridgeMSP From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10027 times:



Quoting Iowaman (Reply 14):
Another reason to fly WN.

You don't think that their policy isn't going to change along with everyone else's?

Besides, for my money, I'd rater pay the extra few bucks to avoid WN/FL/TZ, etc... in case I need to be rerouted due to a MX problem or a misconnect. The agreements between the big six airlines are where I see the most value over the LCC's.

Also, this article says that only 8% of pax check two bags...not exactly a large chunk of their customer base.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22907 posts, RR: 20
Reply 23, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10001 times:



Quoting DrTrobridgeMSP (Reply 22):
You don't think that their policy isn't going to change along with everyone else's?

They kept 3 free bags for a long time...



I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7562 posts, RR: 25
Reply 24, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9987 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 7):
However, if AA started charging for bags, I would still fly them - not because I agree with them - but because I have little other choice, especially considering the routes I travel most often (like LAX-ORD, MIA-LAX, MIA-LGA). And the same will be for the many who have little options but to fly US Airways - they will suck it up and stick with US, as much as they hate it.

Agreed. I fly with AA for the same reason. The routes I fly mostly (LAX/SNA-DFW (I do this one every 2 weeks), LAX-NRT, and LAX-HKG) are on AA or their partner CX for Milage purposes (for LAX-HKG). Even If AA started charging for bags, which they might I will still be loyal to them for the reason that they fly where I need to go.

Either way I never take more than one bag. Its seems like (and I could very well be wrong, just going on observation) the passengers who take more than one bag tend to be the ones who never fly and are going to leisure destinations. This is a decent way to get more money out of passengers who are flying on the dirt cheap fares.



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25 Ouboy79 : Holy crap, who does your packing? This has to be one of the dumbest statements I've seen on here in awhile. I grew up in a family of four...at most i
26 Atrude777 : WN just already changed their policy to now allow 2 bags free, and 3rd checked so that statement is out the door. SWA has over 3,400 daily flights, i
27 FFlyer : Really? I still can't believe it being an average! Including kids...
28 Post contains images Atrude777 : Well, note AVERAGE When SWA did the study to figure the change from 3 bags to 2, it averaged out to only 2 bags checked and one carry on luggage. Ale
29 Post contains images Iowaman : Leisure destinations yes, but I fly a few times a year and for example when I go on a cruise out of MIA for a week, I'll probably bring back two chec
30 MAH4546 : Tell that to any airline check-in agent at MIA, FLL, MCO, LAS, or the Caribbean. Families of four pack heavy...very heavy. Four bags is pretty typica
31 Post contains images NWADC9 : I check in one bag and a fishing rod in a 4-foot case (ok, so it's two 2-foot poster mailing tubes taped together, but I saved $75 doing that, so HA!)
32 MMEPHX : Will they be charging for 2 bags transatlantic? Current agreements (unless they will be changing with open skies, and I don't know) I believe is that
33 Ryefly : Good thing I booked my flight in May on US Airways last week to MIA to go on a cruise. Since I purchased before the deadline, I think I will pack a ex
34 MSPDL : You know this is a total hassle for the passengers and the airline employees. But if passengers are smart they will ask the airline they are flying qu
35 Post contains images Jbernie : 3 people (all adults) 3 weeks in Australia (from denver) taking christmas presents and general presents for relatives opposite seasons 3 suitcases I c
36 Azncsa4qf744er : For places HOT like LAS or anywhere in Florida you shouldn't be checking any bags. What are you not packing? At most one bag but two? My god! Not dum
37 N917ME : Now I do understand that this is not a "special handling" charge, however, with US Airways current and longstanding issues with baggage handling, shou
38 Post contains images EyesSkyward : This is a joke right? Wow, I didn't know that the LCC's never have crew or mechanical issues that result in cancelled flights.
39 DeltAirlines : If I'm spending a week in Florida (which I often do), I check two bags - one bag of clothes and then my golf clubs. Plenty of excellent golf in Flori
40 Denver11 : Great, I really want to pay them to lose my bags, they already do that for free!:P I've only flown US 4 times, but all four times, they've lost at lea
41 JFK69 : All this leads to is more boobs trying to pack a roll on and stuffing it into the overhead bin which has no chance of all of fitting......then the FA'
42 UsAirways16bwi : quoting all negative replies: . . . . . . . CHECK ONE BAG. u dont have to bring your whole damn wardrobe for a week vacation......geez.
43 Post contains images Ocracoke : ..................../snip/............. ................./snip/............. Well, I would hope that they wouldn't charge customers checking assistiv
44 DeltAirlines : And as I said in my reply, it's not that simple always. For a golf vacation, or a ski vacation, or something like that, you need to check one bag for
45 Breaker1011 : I can hike Maui for a week on just a carry on. Yeah, I smell after a while. But it's Maui, who cares? Kidding aside, this is another example of Parker
46 Hondah35 : I can count on one hand the number of times me or my family have carried one more than one bag per person, but anybody who thinks it is rare has neve
47 Post contains images FlyDeltaJets87 : Until they're the cheapest carrier by $50 or more round trip and even then that's only a factor if you plan on bringing everything but the kitchen si
48 MAH4546 : Yes, you pack TWO bags. Maybe the second bag is a bag of golf clubs, or maybe it's some diving equipment, or maybe it's a suitor with your nicer clot
49 TxAgKuwait : I believe it was Gordon Bethune who made the comment that it was possible to make a pizza so cheap that nobody would want to eat it. Gordon was always
50 Pellegrine : I can't really say this was unexpected considering the operating climate. Although, I am surprised that it has not spread to AA, CO, NW, and DL, espec
51 Platinumfoota : As a ramp agent i can tell u that most people DONT check in 2 bags when flying within the states. Most flights have a less bags than passengers if not
52 Airlinespotter : Then don't fly with them again dude. That way you don't have to complaint anymore.
53 Mah584jr : Listen, if you can afford to go to skiing or golfing destinations for a vacation, then you sure as heck can afford to pay for an extra bag. On a side
54 Ckfred : The problem for leisure travelers is the shoulder season. My wife and I used to take spring (late March through early May) or fall (mid September thro
55 Pellegrine : Seriously. That really got a laugh out of me. Even if you ski or golf within driving distance of your residence, you're probably within the top x% an
56 Post contains images PiedmontINT : My question is, what happens when you transit thru PHL and your 2nd bag gets lost, will you get your $25 back at least? I have a feelng the answer wou
57 SkyguyB727 : I once saw a young couple check three large, heavy bags for a three day trip to Las Vegas. Even if they changed clothes every four hours around the c
58 United319 : Its about time. I had a customer checking in flying by himself with two 65lb bags. It is rediculous how much people pack sometimes. I went to europe f
59 Luv2cattlecall : No kidding....and what car are they renting that holds 4 + 12 bags (8 checked in and 4 carryon) I hope this doesn't come across as rude, but you do h
60 David21487 : Well, although DL still allows you to check two bags free of charge, the overweight baggage fee increased by $30. Effective 2/26, for any bag weighti
61 Maverick623 : Wrong, wrong, wrong. 95% of airplanes I load have anywhere from 10-30 less bags than passengers, and most of the rest are 1:1. The only exceptions ar
62 Post contains images Thunder9 : What can Brown do for you? -J
63 N917ME : LOL.. Most who bring two bags for a week in Europe (like myself) change clothes daily and chhose not to wear the same thing twice, three times, turn
64 B777a340fan : Does this stupid fee apply on codeshare flights? I.e. if i'm booked on a LH flight operated by UAL, will I be charged that extra $25? Wouldn't that be
65 AirTranTUS : What if you are planning for cold weather? Those clothes take up more space and if you do not have a large suitcase, you pack two bags. What if you h
66 N917ME : If I fly US and need to check bags, I actually shipped my bags FedEx to my pre cruise hotel, used my discount. For under 100.00 all 4 bags (wife and m
67 CasInterest : This is a bad policy for US Airways and United. I know why they are doing it, but this is the wrong path. Especially if American/Delta/CO/NW don't tow
68 MSPDL : You know the best part of all of this so far.. everyone on this page knows about the $25.00 fee now.. so you can tell your friends and they can tell t
69 Post contains images A330323X : ...except that airlines are subject to the ACAA and not the ADA. Nice try, though.
70 FlyDeltaJets87 : Like I said before- oh well. Leisure travels aren't where the airline makes its money anyway. That's what is great about capitalism. We as the consum
71 ExFATboy : Not entirely correct. In areas where the ACAA is not specific, or is silent, airlines are just as subject to the ADA as any other businesses. The exi
72 United319 : Did I ever say that I wore the same thing twice? I was able to fit enough clothes in there for the whole week without re-wearing the same clothes, an
73 N917ME : Whooaa!! Slow down a bit.. no one said you did wear the same thing twice... But when you have 2 sets of clothes for each day (business and lesiure) t
74 Post contains images Typhaerion : Is it just me or did anyone else notice that US is now asking people to pay them money just so that they can lose their bag? All I know is, US ought t
75 Post contains images Bardoman : Why just the golf clubs? Do you really leave your golf cart at home? You've paid a $200 ticket, the least you can do is feel entitled to fly around t
76 Post contains images Bingo : Youre right, $25 is nothing in a financial sense. What those $25 are to someone like me is a tax for flying on an airline with a poor business model.
77 CasInterest : Umm, last I checked airlines make money off the following....paying customers. Business and Leisure travelers both pay money, and all airlines earn m
78 ExFATboy : Well, keep in mind that any fuel surcharge has to be included in the listed price that appears on Kayak, Travelocity, etc., while a charge for baggag
79 Sbworcs : I go on package holidays from the UK to US / Europe for 2 weeks. The normal allowance on these flights is one suitecast no more than 20kg! - I manage
80 Post contains images Mariner : Bizarre-o. Oil is now at historical highs. On the one hand, folk are quite happy to nickel and dime the airlines for el cheapo fares, but are whinging
81 MAH4546 : Europeans pack less than Americans. Americans pack a notoriously large amount of luggage.
82 Post contains images PHLBOS : Anyone here remember back in the late-90s when DL & UA inserted plastic dividers inside the carry-on bins as a means to control the size of passengers
83 Av8rDAL : I don't see what's in the way of US airlines adhering to strict weight and baggage limits like European carriers do (legacy and LCCs). Flying on RyanA
84 Maverick623 : US is already upgrading the fleet. All United is doing is sugar coating what they are doing, which is nickel and diming passengers just like US. No d
85 Jbernie : Make sure you are carrying the biggest jacket on the plane, you know, just in case it is cold at the other end, that should free up enough space for
86 Post contains images Bingo : Dont forget the size of the average American compared to our friends across the pond. I wear a size 13 US shoe. Thats like a size 48 for you EU folk.
87 Cubsrule : While I've not seen any evidence on it, I don't think there's any question that people traveling internationally check more, and it's not hard to see
88 Chris133 : Well, lets see, Best in Customer Service, Best on-time of the majors, Best rated FFP and about twice as much frequency as most of the others combined
89 AIR757200 : Airlines are primarly* in business to transport passengers from one point to another, not their junk. *exception: cargo business by way of approved kn
90 FlyDeltaJets87 : Not if you know how to pack right. When I went to Field Training for Air Force ROTC this summer, I managed to get a pair of size 13 combat boots, two
91 StarAlliance38 : If you ask me, that might actually be smart. In the aviation world, meny is key, the more you have, the more you''l grow (No Duh). US is rapidly growi
92 United319 : Sorry about that...It can become a reflex on this website, the way people like to make low blows and shoot you down. I tip my hat off to you and apol
93 TxAgKuwait : I'm going to assume that you meant "money is key." Hard to argue with that logic. But here is another truth: The lower cost provider always has the u
94 Post contains images Ocracoke : Woo hoo! Smart lawyer wanna be dude trying to split a hair with an axe! My point, regardless, is correct: it is against the law for an airline to cha
95 Post contains links ExFATboy : I don't think it's a matter of aesthetics, more a matter of cleanliness, especially if you're traveling in the summer and sweating a lot. And some of
96 N917ME : **DING DING DING.. finally someone who understands!! Why airlines continue to sell cheap tickets to put butts in the seats, but dont price the ticket
97 CasInterest : Sure it would be absolutely simple to go out an charge what it costs. Go start your own airline and see how well it works for you...... There are far
98 Post contains links PHLBOS : An article covering US' new baggage fee was on the front page of yesterday's Philadelphia Inquirer. The below-link contains a letter written by Nicole
99 Post contains images A330323X : Yep, that's US Airways' fault alright.
100 Post contains images FlyDeltaJets87 : It is simple. Most other businesses and industries have figured it out. I'm smart enough not to start an airline in the first place. They say the def
101 PHLBOS : Do keep in mind that I didn't write that letter; hash it out w/Nicole. Personally, I'd like to know where she got that parking rate came from? The ch
102 CasInterest : Not all business travelers are frequent flyers. Last I checked US Air flies a lot of people to florida, the carribean and europe, Not all of that is
103 Cubsrule : There press seems to make it pretty clear that that won't be happening.
104 FlyDeltaJets87 : Okay. So then where are you going with this? If Joe Traveler doesn't fly often enough to fly between now and when he goes to see Mickey with the kids
105 Post contains images A330323X : An $880 million dollar loss last quarter? What are you smoking? They lost $79 million last quarter ($42 million excluding special items), for those o
106 CasInterest : How is cutting service better service?/ In recessions, you don't do better by ticking off the fragile consumers, and that seems to be what US Airways
107 FlyDeltaJets87 : They aren't cutting it; they're just charging for something that was once free because it's getting too expensive to give for free now. And you don't
108 Ckfred : My wife was on an Eagle flight last month, PIT-ORD, and all but one of the final destination ORD bags (including hers) were left in PIT for the next
109 CasInterest : See this is the problem, it's the legacies with all their bassackwards unions and pay scales, Not to mention old hardware. if this is what it is goin
110 Cubsrule : US will occasionally try to discourage people from gate checking for w&b calculation reasons (of course, it might strike you as unsafe that the bag i
111 D L X : People who need to bring extra bags will bring extra bags. I agree that a lot of people pack a lot more stuff than they need, but guess what? Those f
112 Analog : If the average person checks two bags, then half of all passengers are already paying the extra bag fee (assuming normal distribution). No way is tha
113 Post contains images ATCtower : ADA compliances do apply to airlines. There have been numerous cases settled out of court (though no judgement I know of) regarding a disabled person
114 Maverick623 : I dunno which airline you fly with, but at US the policy is to check the bag to baggage claim at the final destination (white tags), the exceptions b
115 Post contains links Analog : The DoJ disagrees: http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/pubs/hivqanda.txt
116 TXKF2010 : Funny how UA made the decision that Canada was part of the U.S. now and that those flights arent considered international and you can only take 1 bag
117 Maverick623 : The fee only applies to those who check in at UA or US counters.
118 HSVflier : what are legacy carriers thinking these days?
119 Lufthansa747 : I say make it 15kg like LCCs elsewhere or 20kg at most for checked baggage. Ship the rest via Fedex or whatever, 20kg is plenty unless one is moving.
120 TXKF2010 : Alright but what if its a codeshared flight with say Air Canada, and they book with Air Canada but then check in with United...that isn't exactly the
121 GivenRandy : Any links for that? Holy cow, that's a lot of stuff. I have one carry-on for trips of 8 days or less. Usually only extra bag for things like snorkel
122 Maverick623 : Since you can only pay the fee at check-in, if you check in at a United counter, you will get charged.
123 Warszawa : Personally, it's a give and take, in my opinion. AirTran, JetBlue, Virgin USA, and others, in my opinion, have become to full-featured airlines of the
124 DocLightning : It's the skiiers who will suffer. You don't need a lot of luggage to go somewhere warm. You need a lot of luggage to go skiing. Then again, if you ar
125 FlyDeltaJets87 : Unless you bring Golf Clubs, which a lot of people do when they go someplace warm. Like I said though earlier in the thread (Reply 90)- look at all t
126 Post contains images Warszawa : Well you seem to have all the answers FlyDeltaJets87, what airline are you armchair CEO for?
127 Post contains images FlyDeltaJets87 : I like how this works: You make posts in this thread and state what you believe with supporting comments, but you're not an armchair CEO. I make post
128 Post contains images Warszawa : " I make posts in this thread and state what I believe with supporting comments, and somehow I am an armchair CEO. " No, you make posts in this threa
129 Post contains images FlyDeltaJets87 : Then what is the point of posting your opinion if you don't want others to agree or disagree with it? Why on earth even bother making the effort to p
130 Cubsrule : Alas, I was thinking of the regional aircraft sort of gate checking; I should have specified that the first time around. Now, you see plenty of 22 in
131 Maverick623 : Roger that, yea those poor regional flights are gonna get killed with gate checks now.
132 Post contains images Warszawa : Apparently you didnt understand a thing I said. Whats humorous about the way you conduct yourself on this forum is your tendency to argue over everyo
133 Post contains images FlyDeltaJets87 : That doesn't mean I can't debate the supporting arguments you choose to form your opinions, which is what I have been doing, as cited later in this p
134 TxAgKuwait : Let me make a point which I threw in earlier but which has been conveniently ignored or overlooked. USAirways (and United) have decided that charging
135 PanAm_DC10 : This thread has run it's course and at the request of the Thread Starter is being Archived. Thank you.
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