Cody From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1924 posts, RR: 9 Reply 2, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1401 times:
1. Pan Am?
2. Eastern, TWA, Delta, Air Canada, Northeast (never "delivered") British Airways, PSA, Cathay Pacific, Sri Lankan, Gulf Air
3. I don't know
5. Rich, LTU, Tradewinds, Caledonian, Courtline, I can see it but can't name it
8. Delta and Delta
9. I don't know that one either
10. the earlier version...like maybe the 385-1
11. Air Afrique
12. They had a lower lounge
13. I really don't know off hand
This wasn't too awful bad. I am tired though so that made it more difficult......especially when I couldn't answer all the questions
Tom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 38 Reply 4, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1382 times:
1) My guess is Cathay Pacific
2) Air Canada, All Nippon, British Airways, BWIA, Cathay Pacific, Court Line, Delta, Eastern, Gulf Air, LTU, PSA, Saudia, TWA (sorry, I got carried away)
4) question is a little vague, but a bunch went to Delta
5) American Trans Air, Air Transat, Tradewinds, YesTours, LTU, , and Air Atlanta Icelandi
8) first went to TWA, currently a Saudia VIP aircraf
10) L-1011-1-15 (200)
11) Congo Airlines
12) the downstairs lounge.
13) 249. There were 250 built, but #1 stayed with Lockheed.
I give upon 7 and .
Tom in NO (at MSY)
"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
TWA717_200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1372 times:
1: British Airways
2: Eastern, TWA, LTU, Courtline, Delta, Eastern, Air Canada, British Airways, ANA, PSA.
5:Courtline, ATA, Novair, Star Europe, Chileinter, Orient Thai Airlines
6:Several Eastern planes received parts from 401 and all were thought to be haunted.
8:Royal Jordanian, Algerian Gov't
12:They had the lower level lounge option.
TWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3082 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1362 times:
1. British Airways (unless you count Caledonian as part of it)
2.Eastern ,TWA ,PSA ,LTU ,Delta ,Cathay pacific, Saudia, Gulf Air, British Airways, Pan Am.
4.Delta Air Lines
5.Court Line, AirOps ,Air Atlanta Icelandic, Air Transat, Blue Scandanavia, Royal Airlines.
8.Algerian VIP FLight, currently with Saudia
9.JY-HKJ "Royal Jordanian FLight"
10. 200 model
11. LAM Linhas Aereas Mocambique
12.They operated intra-california routes and had smiles!
life wasn't worth the balance, or the crumpled paper it was written on
Notarzt From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 642 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1341 times:
My 2 cents worth…
1. Court Line.
2. Eastern, TWA, Haas Turner, Air Canada, Court Line, LTU, Delta, All Nippon, British Airways, Cathay Pacific (10).
3. AirLanka 4R-ULD.
5. Court Line, LTU, Caledonian Airways, American Trans Air, Air Transat, Air Ops.
6. Several, best known N318EA ('The Ghost of Flight 401').
8. Algerian Government (Ministry of Defense); now with Saudi VIP Flight.
9. The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.
10. Lockheed L-1011-385-1-15 with RB.211-524 series engines.
11. LAC of Congo currently (ADC Airlines recently).
12. Lower Lounge (related fuselage fairing), specific operational weights options.
13. 249 (1 prototype never delivered = 250 production TriStars)
Notarzt From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 642 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1323 times:
I understand that "L-1011-500"'s intention was to ask for African airlines currently operating the L-1011. All in all, approx. ten airlines operated the L-1011 - in addition to Ceilidh's above list, think of Tunis Air, Egypt Air, Kabo Air, etc.!
L-1011-500 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 368 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1260 times:
Thanks for participating - I realized some questions were vague, and one was wrong, so this will help me out. Thanks for the input.
1. Court Line; they operated them from 1973 to 1974; they went into liquidation
2. Any 10 of the following: Eastern, TWA, Delta, British Airways, Pan Am, Cathay Pacific, Eastern, AirLanka, LTU, TAP, PSA, Gulf Air, Saudia, ANA, Alia (Royal Jordanian), BWIA, Court Line, Air Canada, Haas-Turner (a leasing group)
4. Cathay Pacific received 12 Tristars from Eastern; Delta received 10
5. Any 6 of the following: ATA, Air Ops, Air Atlanta Icelandic, Blue Scandinavia, Chile Inter, Air Transat, Royal Aviation, LTU, Yes, Caledonian, Novair, Star Europe, Court Line, Rich International
8. The Algerian Government; it is currently in service as a Saudi VIP Transport (HZ-HM5)
9. The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan
10. Tristar 200; higher MGTOW and more powerful RB211-524 engines
11. Thank you Ceilidh - the question was incorrect - this is verbatim from Ceilidh's response -
1) TAAG Angola (leased -500 from TAP)
2) LAM Mozambique (leased -500 from TAP)
3) Air Sudan (multiple aircraft)
3) Air Algerie (multiple aircraft)
4) Nigeria Airways (leased from Air Atlanta)
5) ADC Airlines
6) Cameroon Airlines (leased -500)
and the latest operator...
Congo Air Lines
12. Those nifty lower level lounges that were identifiable by the fairing behind the landing gear made PSA's Tristars different from any other.
13. 249 - the prototype, N1011, was never delivered and was scrapped in Ardmore, OK in 1986 with less than 9000 hours.
Notarzt From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 642 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1226 times:
Re. 4: I smelled that Cathay Pacific story.
Re. 7: D-AERT was sold and retired by LTU in 1996 (S/N 1183). Where did you get "1998"? The aircraft was modified for Rich International, re-reg. N501GB, and delivered to Rich International in May 1996.
Re. 11: Your question was quite correct as long as referred to the "current" African airline to operate the L-1011.
Notarzt From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 642 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1216 times:
Don't want to bother you with details. However, one more thing regarding your task 4:
>When Eastern Airlines retired, to whom did the
>most of its Tristars go to?
If you ask for the airline that received most aircraft of the L-1011 fleet when Eastern Airlines RETIRED (= 1990/91), then it's definitely Delta Airlines. You are correct, Delta received only 10 whereas Cathay Pacific got 12. But Cathay Pacific acquired several L-1011s from Eastern Airlines during the 1980's (long before Eastern's demise), whereas Delta got their 10 ships directly from Eastern bankrupt's estate.
DL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1853 posts, RR: 10 Reply 23, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1185 times:
Daniel, you are correct. I would assume that it is 193A-1000.
BTW, does anyone know how Lockheed ran the final production line at Palmdale? It appears that after the fuselages were painted,there were two production lines running side by side, as if a ship completed one line, then it re-entered it in the second line. I remember seeing a photo of a TWA example on the production line with all the early EAL machines. I couldn't read the reg., but it was too early in production for N31001, and N301EA/N31001 was already built....
It's not going to the Moon.....It's just going to California
Notarzt From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 642 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1180 times:
You are correct. The paint job was made after fuselage assembly. These airframes subsequently entered the second part of the production line and were completed.
As for the TWA coloured aircraft. Lockheed definitely painted only one of the pre S/N 1013 aircraft in Trans World's colour scheme (N31001, S/N 1002). The early production Eastern aircraft you have seen on the photo along with one example painted in TWA colour scheme might have been the flight test aircraft being refurbished and prepared for final delivery (after the flight test program was finished). The only option, I think.
25 L-1011-500: Actually, I think the one used for destructive tests may have been the one that experienced a decompression over the Pacific while flying for Delta in
26 Notarzt: Indeed, Lockheed Martin used 1003 (N781DL, ex N302EA) for such tests in late 1995. The original fatigue tests were performed by "1000" in the early 19