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Video Of Jet Blue 292 Cabin During Emergeny  
User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2386 posts, RR: 22
Posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 14430 times:

Hey Guys:

I came across this during the jetBlue 292 cabin during the whole emergency landing, and a few shots prove that the pax were watching the ordeal on TV in the seats! Interesting never the less :





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User currently offlineFlybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1801 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 14382 times:

"Terrifying emergency landing".... hahaha. I mean it's not as if the wings were going to fall off the plane. I guess to the non-aviation folk anything that goes wrong in the sky is "terrifying". Interesting that many of these people see no problem with rolling out of their driveway with worn brakes... go figure.


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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 14336 times:



Quoting SXDFC (Thread starter):
Hey Guys:

I came across this during the jetBlue 292 cabin during the whole emergency landing, and a few shots prove that the pax were watching the ordeal on TV in the seats! Interesting never the less :

Well, some of the photo comments for the photos uploaded to this site have comments from the passengers who were on this flight and the poster said it was interesting watching it on the DirectTV as everything was unfolding. Not sure if it really was a passenger or just someone pretending to be, but it certainly seems plausible.


User currently offlineAirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 14218 times:

What a joke, honestly the guy thought he was going to die. The nose wheel did what it was supposed to do when it failed, turn to a 90 degree angle. It's an airbus design and not only did it keep the airplane on the runway but right on the centerline. How about a praise for the cockpit and the cabin crew that did a great job on that flight?

User currently offlinePropilotJW From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 589 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 14099 times:



Quoting AirWillie6475 (Reply 3):
What a joke, honestly the guy thought he was going to die.

He was only believing what he was hearing on TV. Don't you remember the "aviation experts" repeating that it could be horrible and have mass casualties? Just like any event like this, it was played up so much and, thank goodness, was anticlimactic and a very great landing.


User currently offlineJasp25 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 615 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 13975 times:



Quoting PropilotJW (Reply 4):
Don't you remember the "aviation experts" repeating that it could be horrible and have mass casualties? Just like any event like this, it was played up so much and, thank goodness, was anticlimactic and a very great landing.

Knowledge is power. Knowing how the mechanics of the aircraft work would make you understand that it was not as life threatening as what it appears to be on an average individual without a clue of how aircraft and its parts work.
If I am on a plane and an emergency situation arises but as long as the wings are intact and the engines are running and not on fire, and if the tail is intact and working perfectly, I wouldn't worry as much.


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User currently offline707lvr From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 585 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 13948 times:

I could only watch about a third of this joker and his few minutes of cable fame. I guess he made it after all in the end, huh, and the girlfriend doesn't get his stuff?

User currently offlineMarkyboy From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 13670 times:

Quoting Flybyguy (Reply 1):
I guess to the non-aviation folk anything that goes wrong in the sky is "terrifying"

I think you summed it up perfectly with that statement, therefore no need to mock.

Believe it or not, not everyone is into aviation and the average passenger does not have much knowledge of aircraft, systems or emergency procedures and quite naturally may have been "terrified".

Quoting Flybyguy (Reply 1):
Terrifying emergency landing".... hahaha



Quoting AirWillie6475 (Reply 3):
What a joke, honestly the guy thought he was going to die.



Quoting 707lvr (Reply 6):
I could only watch about a third of this joker

It is condescending idiotic comments like these that enhance the average joe's perception of aviation enthusiasts as being elitest nerds! I cannot believe one of these comments was made by a so called pilot???

[Edited 2008-02-29 03:46:54]

User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2759 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 13597 times:

Quoting Flybyguy (Reply 1):
"Terrifying emergency landing".... hahaha. I mean it's not as if the wings were going to fall off the plane. I guess to the non-aviation folk anything that goes wrong in the sky is "terrifying".



Quoting AirWillie6475 (Reply 3):
What a joke, honestly the guy thought he was going to die



Quoting 707lvr (Reply 6):
I could only watch about a third of this joker and his few minutes of cable fame.

Come on guys. All people aren't aviation experts, and accidents do happen! Yes I'm sure it was terrifying to the average passenger. If it was such a "joke" I'm sure the pax wouldn't ahve been ordered to "brace" nor would there have been so many emergency service on stand-by. I mean come on, and I apologise for being harsh, but it's your comments that are a joke.
May I ask how many of you have been directly involved in an emergency landing?
I can tell you it is a terrifying experience. I lived it once, after an engine fire shortly after take-off from FRA on an A321 enroute to DUB. I was one of the first pax to see the flames coming from the engine, just before they were extinguished and the engine was reduced to idle. It took about 40 minutes until we managed to return to FRA for an emergency landing, and I can tell you the uncertaintity (as remember as a pax we're not in control of what's happening, and this could also be seen in the very pale faces of our cabin crew) is terrifying. It's a strange experience that goes from disbelief that this is happening to you, to shock, to desperation and then to a realisation and acceptance of the predicament you're in. I'm no major aviation expert, but I've been an aviation fan since I was a kid, and watching this video brought back memories from my event which happened just over 8 years ago, and it brought a lump to my throat.
So stop laughing at and mocking these people. It is a frightening experience.

Quoting AirWillie6475 (Reply 3):
The nose wheel did what it was supposed to do when it failed, turn to a 90 degree angle. It's an airbus design and not only did it keep the airplane on the runway but right on the centerline. How about a praise for the cockpit and the cabin crew that did a great job on that flight?

That I totally agree with. And praise is due to the crew, and of course to the a/c designers, emergency staff, ATC, etc.

Quoting PropilotJW (Reply 4):
He was only believing what he was hearing on TV. Don't you remember the "aviation experts" repeating that it could be horrible and have mass casualties? Just like any event like this, it was played up so much and, thank goodness, was anticlimactic and a very great landing.

True. It must have been very strange to watch that live on TV knowing you're a part of the unfolding live TV story.

Quoting Markyboy (Reply 7):
It is condescending idiotic comments like these that enhance the average joe's perception of aviation enthusiasts as being elitest nerds! I cannot believe one of these comments was made by a so called pilot???

I couldn't agree more with you Markboy. Well put.

[Edited 2008-02-29 04:17:17]


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User currently offlineTonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1443 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 13268 times:

Ugh, is he not the most annoying person ever. I would hate to be sitting beside him on a flight let alone one with an emergency situation onboard. And he clearly was not listening to the safety info my having is camera on!


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User currently offlineAZO From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 767 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 13199 times:

This guys just loooooves being on TV


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User currently offlineBoeingluvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 12869 times:



Quoting AirWillie6475 (Reply 3):
What a joke, honestly the guy thought he was going to die. The nose wheel did what it was supposed to do when it failed, turn to a 90 degree angle. It's an airbus design



Quoting PropilotJW (Reply 4):
He was only believing what he was hearing on TV. Don't you remember the "aviation experts" repeating that it could be horrible and have mass casualties? Just like any event like this, it was played up so much and, thank goodness, was anticlimactic and a very great landing.

I also actually remember hearing that Airbus Experts at the time did not expect the gear to hold up... So is it really an Airbus design?? Wouldn't surprise me if it had. It's got an Airbus stamp on it.

Oh one more thing. I'm surprised they kept the tv's on. wouldn't they want to keep them off had there been an evacuation???


User currently offlineJawed From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 482 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 12529 times:

another arm chair hero on the forums. next time you're in such a situation make sure to video tape your face so we can judge your reaction here.

Quoting Flybyguy (Reply 1):
"Terrifying emergency landing".... hahaha. I mean it's not as if the wings were going to fall off the plane. I guess to the non-aviation folk anything that goes wrong in the sky is "terrifying". Interesting that many of these people see no problem with rolling out of their driveway with worn brakes... go figure.



User currently offlineKhobar From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2379 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 12249 times:



Quoting Tonystan (Reply 9):
Ugh, is he not the most annoying person ever. I would hate to be sitting beside him on a flight let alone one with an emergency situation onboard. And he clearly was not listening to the safety info my having is camera on!



Quoting AZO (Reply 10):
This guys just loooooves being on TV

This guy may have been a little dramatic, but he is far from the most annoying person ever. And while he may love being on the tele, at leat he's composed and actually telling a story.

It could have been a lot worse - he could have filled the commentary with "jokes" and such.  Wink


User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5527 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 12036 times:

Does the PhD make the 'aviation expert' more believable?

It amazes me that people who are in fear for their lives take the time to record their demise instead of listening to those in charge. Tool. Media-I-need-my-15-minutes-attention whore.

Your lack of paying attention had better not impede someone else getting out safely.



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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 11831 times:



Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 14):

That is what I was wondering too. Is it that important to act as the hero for a few moments of fame..... IMO people who doing such things must have a shitty life. In an emergency my thoughts are with my girlfriend, family and friends and surely not with my video camera.


User currently offlineSFOnative From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 11833 times:

I remember watching this all unfold on one of the cable news channels. Quite a few "aviation experts" were being interviewed while we watched the plane circle the LA area burning off fuel. Whenever one of them would comment on how this wasn't really a serious issue and that the aircraft would most likely land without major incident, you could almost here the disappointment in the news anchors voices when they spoke afterwards.....I am not saying the media is ruthless or anything, but they are.

User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7690 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 11258 times:

Not sure where Airbus experts come into it.

They said that the plane was a B767.


User currently offlineBramble From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 10985 times:



Quoting SFOnative (Reply 16):
I remember watching this all unfold on one of the cable news channels. Quite a few "aviation experts" were being interviewed while we watched the plane circle the LA area burning off fuel. Whenever one of them would comment on how this wasn't really a serious issue and that the aircraft would most likely land without major incident, you could almost here the disappointment in the news anchors voices when they spoke afterwards.....I am not saying the media is ruthless or anything, but they are

I spotted a similar attitude recently with the BA B777 in LHR. SkyNews channel were interviewing a (South African?) pax over the phone and the questions were very dramatic. "Did you think you would die?" "Were passengers panicking?" "Will you fly again?". The guys answers were along the lines of 'I didn't have time to get worried', 'It felt like a very bad landing' 'Of course I feel OK,I'm able to talk to you' and 'Of course I will fly again with BA'. They later managed to get an more media friendly interview with an Australian pax who got all upset and talked about "spending quality time with his family after this" (rather than actually going home to them-he lives in London)


User currently offlineAdam42185 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 416 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 10962 times:

I do think its pretty stupid to say that the people on the plane had no right to be scared. I would have been rather apprehensive myself. I am a private pilot right now, and understand much of what happens, I would know that the odds of something bad happening are really not high, but regardless when something goes wrong and youre in the air.... well, i mean, its better to be on the ground and wish you were in the air than be in the air and wish you were on the ground. I was on an MD-80 out of BOS when shortly after take off the cabin vibrated violently and the left engine had to be shut down. We circled for an emergency landing and, although I knew the plane was designed to be able to fly in perfect control with only one engine, it was still a bit frightening especially with the cabin crew urgently walking up and down the aisle to and from the cockpit and what not. We didnt brace or anything, but there sure were fire engines at every taxi way down the runway. Yeah, maybe he was a bit over dramatic, but seriously, if you were on a plane that had to make an emergency landing, no matter what the cause is, you would be nervous too.

And I watched that incident on the TV I couldnt believe the spectacular landing the pilots made, right on the centerline... bravo!


User currently offlineBarney Captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 970 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks ago) and read 10702 times:



Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 14):
Does the PhD make the 'aviation expert' more believable?

Apparently not. "Burning off fuel was done to move the CG farther aft". Ah yea.....certainly had nothing to do with lowering the landing weight/speed/stopping numbers.  Yeah sure



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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks ago) and read 10385 times:

Quoting Barney Captain (Reply 20):

......and I didn't know you could burn fuel 'just' out of the center tank..? Most of the planes I've worked on the fuel tank is all one on each side. Most of the widebodies may offer that.....but I don't think the A320 does.

[Edited 2008-02-29 11:51:58]


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19942 posts, RR: 59
Reply 22, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks ago) and read 10042 times:



Quoting Adam42185 (Reply 19):
I do think its pretty stupid to say that the people on the plane had no right to be scared. I would have been rather apprehensive myself. I am a private pilot right now, and understand much of what happens, I would know that the odds of something bad happening are really not high, but regardless when something goes wrong and youre in the air.... well, i mean, its better to be on the ground and wish you were in the air than be in the air and wish you were on the ground.

Bingo. Look, I'm a doctor. I've seen a thing or two in my career. Then one day I was the one who had to get admitted to the hospital. Now hospital admissions happen ALL the time.

But when it's happening to you, it's a big stinkin' deal.

When it's you in that plane and you know that there is a possibility, however small, that the gear could collapse, parts could go flying, pierce a fuel tank, and cause an explosion and that you will be right next to it...


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9666 posts, RR: 52
Reply 23, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9504 times:

Guys calm down here a second with your flames against people who thought this could be a dangerous incident. I know steering systems pretty well and a steering failure can be a serious incident. With the gear at an angle, very serious consequences can happen.

I'll remind you about the incident with a KLM 737 landing at Barcelona. A bird hit the steering and disabled the steering cables. Unfortunately in that case the wheels happened to be 11 degrees off center when the gear was retracted. The pilots had no idea what was happening until once the pilot lost rudder effectiveness, the plane steered off the runway and the gear collapsed. The plane was a write off. There were no casualties in that incident, but a steering failure can be very dangerous. The difference here was 11 degrees instead of 90, but you never know exactly what will happen when the plane is in the air.


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User currently offlineLuv2cattlecall From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1650 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9420 times:
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I can't blame the pax for panicking since the media pretty much convinced them that they'll be getting a free cremation, but shame on the media! I remember NW had the same thing happened in Fargo and it was a complete non-event. I somewhat doubt this guys claim that "The flight attendants were mad...they were screaming." Screaming, sure, that's a possibility, but I pull a BS flag on the "mad" part.

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 14):
Does the PhD make the 'aviation expert' more believable?

Of course...he NEEDS that PhD to provide nuggets of info such as"The most important thing is to keep that nose up..." Thanks doc, until now, I figured it'd be best to plow the nose gear into the ground to maximize the scraping.

Quoting Barney Captain (Reply 20):
Apparently not. "Burning off fuel was done to move the CG farther aft". Ah yea.....certainly had nothing to do with lowering the landing weight/speed/stopping numbers.



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 21):
......and I didn't know you could burn fuel 'just' out of the center tank..? Most of the planes I've worked on the fuel tank is all one on each side. Most of the widebodies may offer that.....but I don't think the A320 does.

Do B6's A320s have center tanks? I thought one or two got delivered with a center tank, which was deactivated shortly after delivery?



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25 Maverick623 : Guys, look at the video he recorded. There is no panic, riot, or any other event going on. Yea, people are nervous, as they should be, but it's not th
26 EWRCabincrew : It could have very well been more than it was (either case (KLM/B6)), but get off the effing video and pay attention. That is why you listen to those
27 Maverick623 : The incident I referenced was a Delta flight from JFK-PHX, and I can assure you the FAs were NOT screaming. The lady sitting across from us used up 4
28 DL767captain : Ok this guy was way too over dramatic! yes this is a bad experience but "this could be it". Come on, the gear was just turned, if anything it would su
29 Post contains images Luv2cattlecall : Sorry if I came across as suggesting that you said the FA's were mad/screeming..I meant the guy in the video. I doubt they were screaming at the pax,
30 ZKEOJ : 1. All of you who were laughing about this, I want to see you up in the air when such things happen. It is easy to sit back *AFTER* everything went we
31 Maverick623 : You got it. Most narrowbodies are only fitted with two fuel dumpers: the engines!
32 Luv2cattlecall : In a way though, aren't they better off haviing it twisted a full 90 degrees, since it wouldn't be "led" by the nose gear right off of the runway?
33 Post contains links and images OPNLguy : I can't help but recall that scene in "Airplane" where, during the crisis-in-progress, the passengers were all watching the in-flight "movie" consist
34 Post contains images RussianJet : That guy is the absolute pits - he makes my skin crawl. Say, he wasn't the same chump that shot that Air Canada rejected takeoff tyre-burst video in J
35 RoseFlyer : Yes that is true. If the angle is great enough, then the tires will just burst and not rotate. On a 737 however, the max rotation is 78 degrees (wide
36 Wjcandee : Hmmmm...did the pax on UA at Sioux City have a right to be scared? How many pax sitting back there in the plane would appreciate the difference of one
37 Gkyip : A great credit to the crew on board, this is exactly what every crew trains for. I'm shocked at the pics of the landing gear after they stopped! Haven
38 EMBQA : There was just no reason to. You land safe... then hurt a bunch of people egressing...?? Nope. I'm just shocked that this thread is 'alive' again. Th
39 Killjoy : Lay off the guy. The reporters probably asked him hundreds of questions and then put the answers to the stupidest ones on the show. Whose really to bl
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