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Windjet Choose Origin As Alternate, How Nice  
User currently offlineMax777geek From Italy, joined Mar 2007, 538 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1768 times:

Last evening windjet (italian lowcost) flight from Catania to Rome turned to be a nightmare for the pax.

There was fog on Rome airport and the cpt decided after a couple of attempts to come back
to the departure town. There are many alternates in the surroundings not taking that much
flight time but I guess the decision was make to complete the roundtrip and have
the plane ready the morning after where it was supposed to be, not to mention
on company charges for bringing the pax's to Rome from another nearby airport..
How nice, indeed. Rome to Catania maybe 1hr total flight time, closer alternate
may be Pisa, if Im not wrong, less than the half. Im astonished, this could happens
only in Italy.

Italian article :

http://www.repubblica.it/2008/02/sez...rdo/volo-ritardo/volo-ritardo.html

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User currently offlineBAKJet From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1672 times:

Could it have something to do with ground equipment at Rome and not Pisa. (do they go to Pisa?)It seems pretty stupid for an LCC to waste fuel like that in something that's not an immediate emergency.

User currently offlineMax777geek From Italy, joined Mar 2007, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1623 times:



Quoting BAKJet (Reply 1):
Could it have something to do with ground equipment at Rome and not Pisa. (do they go to Pisa?)It seems pretty stupid for an LCC to waste fuel like that in something that's not an immediate emergency.

I knew it was normal alternate for Rome, when not even Ciampino which is even closer to Rome itself...


User currently offlineShamrock604 From Ireland, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 4175 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1553 times:

This happens much more often than you would think.

Its not nice of course for the passengers on the particular flight, but if the aircraft ends up out of base, and the crew are not in hours to ferry it back to base for whatever reason, then you will have even more inconvenienced pax the next day as the aircraft runs delayed, or worse, flights will need to be cancelled to eliminate some of the delays.

In Situations like this, it comes down to inconveniencing the Least number of passengers.



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User currently offlineDualQual From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 769 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1462 times:

Airlines can also only operate into specific airports in their Ops Specs (excepting dire emergency when you don't have much choice, you need the airplane on the ground). Secondly, what was the weather at any of these other places? And as was pointed out, do they have support structure at any of these closer airports? If it is an LCC I am going to hazard a guess that it is an LCC because it doesn't pay for support at the closer airports mentioned. Alot more than you think goes into a divert decision. Certainly weather, second am I authorized to got there, and third if I get there is there anyone there to help me?

User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4920 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1408 times:



Quoting BAKJet (Reply 1):
do they go to Pisa?

Yes



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User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3527 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1364 times:



Quoting Shamrock604 (Reply 3):
This happens much more often than you would think.

Exactly - this is common practice almost. It doesn't matter whether it's the origin or a different outstation - It's not like it matters to the passengers where they end up if it's not their intended destination - they're going to be inconvenienced anyway. Better to be ready for next days Ops so you don't inconvenience all those other passengers who'll be boarding that flight in the morning.



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User currently offlineADXMatt From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 951 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1362 times:

Looking at the last 24hours of metars it did go below CAT 1 for a couple of hours. I guess this LCC isn't qualified for CAT 2 or CAT 3. The airport never went below CAT 2.

It is very common on short flights to return to origin if they think that it will be awhile before the WX will clear and alot of passengers like it as well because they may just go home and reschedule the trip. It's better then being stranded somewhere on your own due to a weather delay.


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