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Why No SAS At Lax?  
User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3477 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2657 times:

Has SAS ever served LAX? Why don't they now? (or if they do serve LAX, someone please correct me!) It would seem that there could be a fairly large market for SoCal - Scandinavia non-stops. Of course, the fact that there are currently NO flights between these two regions might indicate otherwise!

(Of course, SAS serves Seattle, so again, why not LA?)

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User currently offlineZander From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 610 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2615 times:

SAS served LA for some years ago, what I know the type was mostly the DC10.
The route wasn't profitable so they drop it.
They have nowadays thoughts about a San Fransisco route from CPH because of their large amount business travellers. I assume there wasn't enough business travellers flying to LA, that's why they dropped it.
I am not sure if this is correct but that's what I have heard.


User currently offlineHeisan67 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2604 times:

I belive there are some problems regarding flying time as well. A nonstop service would due to the long flight time have to be served by two aircrafts in order to have a daily service.
As of today SAS have to few aircrafts.......belive it or not.

There are rumors about SAS starting a route Oslo- Chicago.


User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2579 times:

Will SAS be receiving long-haul aircraft soon? I have no doubt that there are far more business people in LA than in Seattle. Frankly, there are a lot more people in the LA area than in the Bay area, and I don't think an airline would skip LA if it were looking for business travellers.

Lufthansa, British Airways, Virgin, Air France, AOM, SwissAir, KLM, Alitalia, and Aerlingus operate flights into LAX. It would be great to see carriers such as SAS, Iberia, Olympic, and IcelandAir come to LA as well. Of course, I'm not sure a 757 could make LA-Reykijavik (spelling?) non-stop...(i doubt it)


User currently offlineZander From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 610 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2566 times:

There are a lot of Scandinavian people or people with scandinavian relations living in the Seattle area, that's why SAS serves it daily.

And yes, it seems to be more business travellers around SF then it is in LA, I doubt it, but that's what I have heard.

By the way I flew Icelandair from Orlando-Reykjavik and Reykjavik-JFK. Both flights were very long for 757 in my opinion, the MCO-KEF flight took about 7 hours or so.
I doubt it could fly nonstop to LAX.


User currently offlineDETA737 From Portugal, joined Oct 2000, 612 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2566 times:

I know SAS began operating to LAX from Stockholm in 1954 via Greenland. I think they stopped flying there in the 1980s. If the route was so unprofitable why did they operate it for so long?

User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6387 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2557 times:

Since SAS became a Star Aliance partner the more thin long haul routes have been more or less split among the aliance partners. So on some US destinations you may have to connect through for instance Frankfurt and catch Lufthansa. If for instance you live in Jutland, Denmark, which half of the Danish population does, then it is often all the same to take a Maersk Air 737 from Billund to CPH or FRA and continue with SAS or LH. For other US destinations LH may send Germans to CPH to continue on a SAS plane.

When SAS earlier had a handful of US destinations, mostly from Copenhagen, then I think that their philosophy today is to spread their US routes between all three Scandinavia capital cities and have fewer US destinations, mainly aliance partner UAL hubs. And then let UAL spread the customers to several dozens of US destinations.

If I was a SAS CEO, then I would think in that way. And I think that customers mostly agree. Simply because it often gives one less connecting flight within Scandinavia.

Best regards, Preben Norholm



Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
User currently offlineGibberish From Switzerland, joined Sep 2000, 424 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2550 times:

Does SAS follow a hub-to-point or a hub-to-spoke strategy? What US destinations do they serve? If they would go by a hub-to-spoke, they would - like Swissair - only serve their transatlantic partners' hubs and let their passengers connect through their network to beyond US gateways. In this case UA (SFO, ORD, JFK and other, smaller so-called mini-hubs) and AA (DFW, ORD, BOS, SJC, mini-hubs), respectively.

Thanks,

gibberish


User currently offlineJohnnybgoode From Germany, joined Jan 2001, 2187 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2538 times:

as far as i know, SAS serves EWR from CPH, ARN, and OSL, ORD from CPH and ARN and soon possibly also from OSL. SEA is being served from cph, whereas IAD will soon receive service from CPH.

rdgs
daniel



If only pure sweetness was offered, why's this bitter taste left in my mouth.
User currently offlineFlygga From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2529 times:

Here is a shot of SAS at LAX that I took many years ago:


Click for large version
Click here for full size photo!

Photo © Richard Silagi



Richard Silagi


User currently offlineStratifier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2508 times:

LAX was one of SAS' first long-haul routes I think. Their corporate history says things about having royalties on their inaugural flight, and the LA mayor going to Scandinavia, things like that.

And a SAS DC-8 went down in Santa Monica bay in the 60s, in case you didn't know. :-(

So I guess it's not an issue of distance but demand, like everyone has mentioned.

SAS did mention expansion as a reason for ordering new A330/340s, but I don't know about LAX.


User currently offlineThomacf From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 542 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2504 times:

Does SAS fly to JFK? I just saw Newark.

User currently offlineStratifier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2488 times:

Thomacf, here's a quote from SAS' official history:
On May 1, 1989 SAS moved from John F. Kennedy in New York to Newark airport in New Jersey, implementing cooperation with Continental Airlines. This led to improved connections to a large number of U.S. domestic destinations.


User currently offlineN766AS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2489 times:

I wonder if SAS could build their own little airport in Ballard to serve directly?  Big grin
Seattle-area members will know what I am talking about... Big grin


User currently offlineLsjef From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2480 times:

N766AS:

Yaa, sure, you betcha!  Smile



User currently offlineN766AS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2476 times:

hahaha

User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2473 times:

There are still one or two SAS wheelchairs at LAX. Keep your eyes open next time you pass through, maybe you'll see one!


- I am LN-MOW, and I approve this message.
User currently offlineJohnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2576 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2469 times:

Next time you have a few minutes lag time at LAX, go
down in front of the arrivals level at Tom Bradley IT, and look at the memorial "Rock" stating that SAS was the first European carrier to serve Los Angeles nonstop with jets, or something to that effect. I always thought it was ironic since they don't fly there anymore.


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