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BA/IB Load LHR - MAD March 6th  
User currently offlineMGASJO From Nicaragua, joined Feb 2005, 466 posts, RR: 7
Posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2619 times:

Hello...
I am trying to get to MAD on the 6th. Unfortunately our only flight to MAD is completley full and even overbooked. So I will head to LHR and try to ZED with BA or IB on the 6th. I know with BA you can pretty much see loads and list yourself for flights, but I haven't purchased the tickets and you need it as a password on their site. Can anyone tell me how BA and IB flights look on the 6th from LHR to MAD as early as 0800AM. You can post it here or msg me privatley.

thanks


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User currently offlineCaribillo From Spain, joined Jul 2006, 218 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2553 times:

From BOSTA you have IB3161 (06/03/08) with OPN:

C 22
Y 12

So you wouldn't have any problem to book (now)



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User currently offlineEUROBUS From Spain, joined Nov 2004, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2419 times:

From LHR to MAD there are many daily flights, but remember that even on transit you will require a UK entry Visa if you are not a EU national.


Who says airports are boring places?!
User currently offlineUPPERDECKFAN From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2341 times:



Quoting EUROBUS (Reply 2):
From LHR to MAD there are many daily flights, but remember that even on transit you will require a UK entry Visa if you are not a EU national.

Wrong!!!

I don't held a EU passport (neither a US or Canadian one) and have transitting thru LHR at least 12 times over the last 3 years (Spain-US/Canada) without a UK visa.

Even switching terminals in the bus (T1/2 to T3/4) you don't leave the secure area at LHR so you don't go thru passport control, therefore no transit visa is required.



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User currently offlineBCA2005 From India, joined Sep 2005, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2337 times:



Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 3):
Even switching terminals in the bus (T1/2 to T3/4) you don't leave the secure area at LHR so you don't go thru passport control, therefore no transit visa is required.

Yes, but when travelling non rev you are required to leave the secure area, and proceed through customs and immigration in order to check in for your onward flight.


User currently offlineAwthompson From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 489 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks ago) and read 2302 times:

Woops, be careful with visa etc. - my wife is a foreigner and we got caught once at Amsterdam because she could not check in for an Easyjet flight without leaving secure area. Eventually they let me claim her bags from her long haul arrival and check them in again for her while she stayed airside. However this is a rare exception to the rule and was only permitted after long negotiations with staff.

I'm actually on Madrid - Heathrow with Iberia on Friday 7th. Booking through Expedia.co.uk, I got an extremely low price - much cheaper than booking directly with the airline. If you need a return, try Expedia to see what comes up.


User currently offlineKEno From Malaysia, joined Feb 2004, 1842 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2269 times:

The issue is not "foreigner" or "non-EU", there is a set of nationalities that do not require visa.

All nationalities that are allowed visa-free entry into Schengen Zone (e.g. Nicaraguan) are also allowed to enter UK without visa as a visitor. But this is not necessarily true the other way (e.g. South African).

Those who need UK visa: http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/servlet/Fr.../ShowPage&c=Page&cid=1020786334922


User currently offlineEUROBUS From Spain, joined Nov 2004, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2250 times:



Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 3):
Wrong!!!

Not so fast. The visa is required at your airport of origin if flying through LHR, not AT LHR.

Quoting KEno (Reply 6):
The issue is not "foreigner" or "non-EU", there is a set of nationalities that do not require visa.

All nationalities that are allowed visa-free entry into Schengen Zone (e.g. Nicaraguan) are also allowed to enter UK without visa as a visitor. But this is not necessarily true the other way (e.g. South African).

This is correct, so maybe you, Upperdeckfan, are between these ones. Although I live in Spain, I am English and hold a British passport, so I didn't know about this until it happened to me the bad way. I was travelling from HKG to MAD via LHR with a Chinese work mate. We thought everything was under control as he had an entry visa for Spain, but the nasty surprise was when they asked him for the UK visa when doing the checking in (we were flying BA to MAD). I couldn't believe it, cause he was not going to put a foot in the UK, but they would not let him fly. An believe me, we tried to solve the matter every possible way, consulates and embassies included, but the answer was always NO.

Finally, we had to spend nearly 2.000 Euros to get him back to MAD via FRA on CX, where they do not request an 'entry-passing' visa like in London. All together, an absolute nightmare.

So, Allan, as I stated at the beginning, make sure you are clear with the Visa issue!

Regards.



Who says airports are boring places?!
User currently offlineBALHRWWCC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2161 times:

Loads on shorthaul services ex LHR especially during the week can change quickly. For instance it is not unusual for a flight to show availablity at 9am the day before departure but by close of business that night the same flight can be full and oversold. My advise would be if someone has messaged you to message them the day before and try to get up to date loads.

User currently offlineBALHRWWCC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2161 times:

Loads on shorthaul services ex LHR especially during the week can change quickly. For instance it is not unusual for a flight to show availablity at 9am the day before departure but by close of business that night the same flight can be full and oversold. My advise would be if someone has messaged you to message them the day before and try to get up to date loads.

User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4052 posts, RR: 33
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2134 times:

For your info the BA460 LHR MAD has been upgraded to a B767 all this week, due to a shortage of B757. (PEK being converted to Open Skies)
Theres loads of room on 6 Mar.


User currently offlineUPPERDECKFAN From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2113 times:



Quoting BCA2005 (Reply 4):
Yes, but when travelling non rev you are required to leave the secure area, and proceed through customs and immigration in order to check in for your onward flight.

I've never had the luxury of non reving.....  Sad

Quoting EUROBUS (Reply 7):
We thought everything was under control as he had an entry visa for Spain, but the nasty surprise was when they asked him for the UK visa when doing the checking in (we were flying BA to MAD). I couldn't believe it, cause he was not going to put a foot in the UK, but they would not let him fly. An believe me, we tried to solve the matter every possible way, consulates and embassies included, but the answer was always NO.

Sometimes check-in agents are not fully aware of visa regulations, but it surprises me you not being able to work it out through the consulate, this one is from UK gov't web page linked by KEno:

Passengers exempt from the DATV requirement
Holders of certain documents are, regardless of nationality, exempt from the requirement to hold a Direct Airside Transit Visa when transiting the UK.

a valid common format Category D visa for entry to an EEA State;



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User currently offlineMGASJO From Nicaragua, joined Feb 2005, 466 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2022 times:



Quoting EUROBUS (Reply 7):

So, Allan, as I stated at the beginning, make sure you are clear with the Visa issue!

Regards.

Thank you all for the information.
I am very clear about the requirements and regulations. I am both costarican and nicaraguan and do not need visa for the UK nor Spain. I know that as a nonrev I will have to "enter" the UK clearing immigration and customs; go to another terminal and check in for the MAD with either IB or BA.
I was recently in Costa Rica and read horror stories about costaricans being deported from spain a dime a dozen (about 5 a day!). Seems Spain is asking costaricans to bring printed confirmed hotel reservations, copies of passports of who are hosting them, 500 euros in cash...etc what if you're backpacking I ask??
even a so-so famous costarican soccer player who was hired by a polish soccer team that was having its preseason in spain was denied entry into Spain.
I know illegal immigration is a tough issue, so, let the games begin!



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User currently offlineUPPERDECKFAN From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1985 times:



Quoting MGASJO (Reply 12):
I was recently in Costa Rica and read horror stories about costaricans being deported from spain a dime a dozen (about 5 a day!). Seems Spain is asking costaricans to bring printed confirmed hotel reservations, copies of passports of who are hosting them, 500 euros in cash...etc what if you're backpacking I ask??
even a so-so famous costarican soccer player who was hired by a polish soccer team that was having its preseason in spain was denied entry into Spain.
I know illegal immigration is a tough issue, so, let the games begin!

Be careful, last year spanish authorities approved an "invitation letter" as a requisite for nonEU nationals for entry into Spain, see the link below (in spanish)

http://www.boe.es/g/es/bases_datos/d...hp?coleccion=iberlex&id=2007/09609

Once again, IMO it's poor politics, if they want to fight illegal inmigration should do it first at the origin, so ask for visitor visas so the filtering is at origin and therefore the discusting practice of denying entry upon landing gets limited to very very few cases (considering that holding a visa doesn't grant entry on a 100% basis).



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