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Air India Incident 2/28  
User currently offlineMKE22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1143 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5839 times:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/I...pur_runway/articleshow/2824122.cms

An Air India regional jet hit a nilgai (some sort of animal ????) in Kanpur on the 28th while landing at Chakeri airport.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...b/d/d9/Nilgai.jpg/230px-Nilgai.jpg picture of animal (that thing is big!)

[Edited 2008-02-29 19:49:46]


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5544 times:

Guess the Boundary walls need to be raised in some airports to eliminate this problem.
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User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3107 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5352 times:



Quoting MKE22 (Thread starter):
(some sort of animal ????)

It's basically a bull, I think....


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5071 times:

Neelgai is a type of antelope/deer.
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User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3537 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4399 times:

crazy plane spotting animals, at least we do it from the other side of the fence (usually) Big grin


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User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3107 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4054 times:



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 3):
Neelgai is a type of antelope/deer.

Oops...you're right....

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 1):
Guess the Boundary walls need to be raised in some airports to eliminate this problem.

According to the ToI report, there is no boundary wall in the first place....  Big grin


User currently offlineMKE22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1143 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3081 times:



Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 5):
According to the ToI report, there is no boundary wall in the first place.... Big grin

Thats pretty scary. I wonder how many terrorism incidents have resulted from that in India.



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User currently offlineSammyk From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1690 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3009 times:
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Quoting MKE22 (Reply 6):
Thats pretty scary. I wonder how many terrorism incidents have resulted from that in India.

Probably none or there'd be a wall there.


User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3107 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2776 times:



Quoting MKE22 (Reply 6):
Thats pretty scary. I wonder how many terrorism incidents have resulted from that in India.

Oh god, can't you guys think of anything else...?? EWR and all the other airports involved in 9/11 had excellent boundary walls, but that didn't help, did it....? If terrorists want to do something, mere boundary walls are not going to stop them....boundary walls are for exactly these sort of things, animals, unauthorised civilians/vehicles, who may stray in, etc...


User currently offlineMKE22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1143 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2701 times:



Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 8):
EWR and all the other airports involved in 9/11 had excellent boundary walls, but that didn't help, did it....?

They didn't hop over the airport fence and just jump into a plane. They had a well thought out plan and security wasn't what it is today. All it takes in the middle east is one suicide bomber to take down the fence and you have access to the airfield. Either way they need boundary walls so this sort of thing doesn't happen. This could have been more serious than it was.



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User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3107 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2646 times:



Quoting MKE22 (Reply 9):
They didn't hop over the airport fence and just jump into a plane. They had a well thought out plan and security wasn't what it is today.

That, my dear friend, is exactly what I'm trying to point out.....boundary walls are not going to stop a determined terrorist...and we all know very well that the 9/11 terrorists did not jump over the wall to gain entry to planes....

Quoting MKE22 (Reply 9):
All it takes in the middle east is one suicide bomber to take down the fence and you have access to the airfield.

India is not the Middle East....although there are plenty of fanatical characters out there...

All said and done, yes, airports need to have boundary walls and terrorism is ONE of the reasons...there are many more reasons why they should be there, encroachments being one of the major problems in India...take a look at any of the pics of BOM in the a.net database and you'll know what I mean  smile 


User currently offlineDeaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1427 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2491 times:



Quoting MKE22 (Reply 6):

Thats pretty scary. I wonder how many terrorism incidents have resulted from that in India.

To see how our airport security works i would like to invite you over to India and take you plane spotting. If you dont encounter a minimum of atleast 10 different cops interrogating you, with or without a fence!

Further, most airports , like this one in question are very small and normally indian airforce bases so the security is up to the highest level. All airports in India have lots of lookout posts all over the periphery of the airports.

I am currently referring only to Air force bases, if you try doing anything in the bigger airports, you will probably get shot or arrested and interrogated. Hence the battle between us spotters and the rigid police.

Off topic, but as far as terrorism goes, you will be surprised how India has seen much more tragic events than 9/11 we have had fanatical elements wanting to attack us since the time when most Europeans were shipping it over to North America, our security has ALWAYS been 110%, not always the best, but i guess it works.

I am not trying to be rude, just trying explain the matter, but then again, we will stop a terrorist, but not a Blue Bull  Smile Ironic eh?  Smile

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User currently offlineMKE22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1143 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2240 times:



Quoting Deaphen (Reply 11):
I am not trying to be rude, just trying explain the matter, but then again, we will stop a terrorist, but not a Blue Bull Smile Ironic eh? Smile

Yes I do appreciate learning more about the Indian aviation industry. Interesting though that cattle gets less attention  Wink . Really? You can't even go spotting?  boxedin 



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User currently offlineDeaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1427 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 3 days ago) and read 2086 times:



Quoting MKE22 (Reply 12):
Really? You can't even go spotting?

You can go spotting, but only once u pass the hurdles of a gazillion police personnel. We are still pretty narrow minded as far as photography of planes goes, it all is seen as suspicious activity.

Again, photography had been banned since the early 60's because of terrorism, they are opening up now to the idea. But at Air Force Bases, it is still a strict no-no.

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User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2968 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2030 times:

Well this was a scarier incident
http://www.expressindia.com/latest-n...re-beatwalkers-watchtowers/279822/



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User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3107 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1920 times:



Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 10):
there are many more reasons why they should be there, encroachments being one of the major problems in India

Here's an example of what a boundary wall should be keeping out ...  smile 

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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1755 times:



Quoting MKE22 (Reply 6):
Thats pretty scary. I wonder how many terrorism incidents have resulted from that in India

At BOM.The Population around the Airport perimeter is the most effective Antiterror mechanism in place.The local inhabitants know if something is wrong & will inform the Authorities.
They know that if there is one terror strike from the slums surrounding the Airport,its the excuse needed to move them away.

Thats not to say that there is no security in place at BOM.But at smaller Airports the fences are very primitive.

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User currently offlineMKE22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1143 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1618 times:



Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 15):
Here's an example of what a boundary wall should be keeping out ... smile

Wow.... I'm blown away. You're right. Thats something i've never seen before, in real life or a picture (that close to the airport).



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