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Turkish Aviation March 2008  
User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 12821 times:

Hi everyone,
It has been quiet lately, hopefully this is the quiet before the storm:

-Still no news on the TK WB order.
-Where are the 2 343s joining TK? One was supposed to join last month.
-What is the latest on the Cargo conversions? I think one more is due this month.
-Any buyers for the remaining 310s?
-Anyone knows when new 738s start joining TK?
-TK ready for Star A?

I just read last night that TK decided to equip its 330/340 for cell phone usage, $150,000 a plane.

Spring is around the corner for a busy summer season.
Any more news, opinions?
News from last year:
Turkish Aviation March 2007 (by TK787 Mar 1 2007 in Civil Aviation)

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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8492 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 12822 times:
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Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
-TK ready for Star A?

keep hearing semi-official things pointing towards 01/04/08*
I believe TG actually state on their website that TK will be in Star as of then ( though the main Star website does not say anything - but usually they only mention the actual joining date a week or two beforehand )



* 1 April - translated for the benefit of the 5% of the worlds population who use mm/dd/yy instead of dd/mm/yy  Wink



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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 12810 times:

Yes, April 1st is the date. I was more interested in terms of preparedness of TK in general. Maybe time to paint one of those 330/340 s in the Star scheme.

User currently offlineAnkaraflyjet From Turkey, joined Mar 2007, 267 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 12814 times:

-TK set to join Star Alliance on April 1st, 2008
-TK named its new brand to be based at Ankara Esenboga ANADOLU JET. TK will spare 6 each 737-400 initially for this carrier and all domestic operations to/from ESB excluding ESB-IST (Ataturk) will be performed by the new carrier. Also ANADOLU JET will open new domestic routes from ESB. The first new route from Ankara will be Hatay that will start 4 weekly in April.
Evetually as ANADOLU JET grows TK will give additional 737-400's to this carrier. ANADOLU JET will be a LCC and will offer single class configuration. It is expected the domestic flights to increase to several cities. In the medium term ANADOLU JET will act as a feeder to TK's expansion for medium haul internationla flights from Ankara to Paris, London etc.
- The two 343's from Air Jamaica are being prepared and painted for TK colours (I think one will be StarAlliance logo)


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 12801 times:



Quoting Ankaraflyjet (Reply 3):
- The two 343's from Air Jamaica are being prepared and painted for TK colours (I think one will be StarAlliance logo)

Both of them? Where is this taking place? I thought one was to join in Feb, the other in April.


User currently offlineGokmengs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1123 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 12798 times:



Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):

First off thank you for doing this every month, nice and organized.

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
-Still no news on the TK WB order

As always much BS going on busy diplomacy obviously with US and EU so this will get as political as advertised.

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
-Where are the 2 343s joining TK? One was supposed to join last month.

I would like to know also.

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
I just read last night that TK decided to equip its 330/340 for cell phone usage, $150,000 a plane.

First new interiors now this, I actually appreciate that TK is updating the interiors but all this investment for this aging fleet seems weird, at 150K a pop I wonder if they can recoup the investment. Also whats the weight penalty of the system, is it of any significance?

P.S. For my good friends Bahadir and Wing......... Wink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6scQiirXiMk



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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 12772 times:



Quoting Gokmengs (Reply 5):
TK is updating the interiors but all this investment for this aging fleet seems weird

I used to feel the same way, but TK intends to keep all of the 340s in the fleet for another 6-7 years and the type, way into 2020.

Quoting Gokmengs (Reply 5):
As always much BS going on busy diplomacy obviously with US and EU so this will get as political as advertised.


Talking about politics and orders. TKs order will be nothing compared to the US Tanker order. Amazing!


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24325 posts, RR: 47
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 12749 times:

TK signed a FF program agreement with Air NZ with immediate commencement.

Anadolu Jet will in addition to its 16 Ankara based domestic routes will be used by TK to serve 4 international destinations - Basle, Frankfurt, Tehran and Vienna. Initial pricing will be 29YTL. Anadolu Jet domestic flights will operate as TK9xx series flight numbers.



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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8492 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 12744 times:
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Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):
TK signed a FF program agreement with Air NZ with immediate commencement.

fantastic news - do you have a link ? My other half is flying TK business class the week after next and we had assumed that he would be S.O.O.L. since it is before 1 April



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24325 posts, RR: 47
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 12737 times:

TK has it listed on their website as a new partner.
http://www.thy.com/en-INT/miles_and_...ogram_partners/mil_tablosu_nz.aspx
Effective March 3rd.



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User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1436 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 12664 times:

Even though I do not like the "Anadolu Jet" brand, I certainly am happy that the 737-400s are being transferred to Ankara. It was about time  Smile

After 2 months of not flying, I am finally taking a break and flying TK's longest European route. IST-LIS-IST flying out on March 6 and back on March 9 both legs being 737-800. And I will be in C class (thanks to the low demand on the route, I was able to get C class seats for only 25'000 miles). I will fly international C for the first time since they upgraded their in flight service. Will let you guys know.



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 12586 times:

Jazeera starting Istanbul from March 29, thrice weekly.

User currently offlineGFA330 From Turkey, joined Oct 2006, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 12559 times:



Quoting 777way (Reply 11):
Jazeera starting Istanbul from March 29, thrice weekly.

SAW ??

Anybody noticed that EK has loaded 11 weekly effective Winter 2008.... bit early and without any CAA permits.

QR 6 weekly effective Apr 1, and rumored to go 3 weekly Ankara effective Winter 2008.

EY ??? Lots rumors for quite a long time but no action

GF unfortunately struggling as is the whole company, hope they can stay put in IST


User currently offlineEmre767 From Turkey, joined Feb 2008, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 12547 times:

Merhaba,

Do you know what will XQ do with the Boeing 757 fleet? I've heard that they get rid off one of them and now they have two 757s. They are expecting new 737-800 deliveries and I remember reading somewhere that their plans include more regional ops. If the latter is correct, are they going to stop using 757s eventually or will they keep them? Do you think keeping just two of one type A/C is really wise?


User currently offlineTurkishSky From Turkey, joined Mar 2004, 239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12523 times:

Such an impressive intro of Istanbul flights on the Jazeera web site....


Flown 4I 9U AA AB AF AZ BA BD BR CA CU CX EI FR HV JK JP JU KK KL KM LH LX MA ME MS NG OA OK QR OS RJ RO SA SK SQ SR SU
User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12485 times:

Emre767,
Welcome to a.net. It is always nice to see new faces on these threads.
XQ having bases in AYT, ADB and SAW should hold on to its 757s I would think.
On a similar note, their latest 738, TC-SNE, made first flight Feb 25th, might be in service in couple of weeks.


User currently offlineEmre767 From Turkey, joined Feb 2008, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 12428 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 15):
Welcome to a.net. It is always nice to see new faces on these threads.

Thanks a lot. I'm glad I finally joined.

About the XQ, I agree that 757s are really handy in high density routes or medium-long hauls. Also, if they are planning to add more regional routes, I would like to see them adding smaller A/C in the fleet. But I think that it is very unlikely to happen...

On the other hand, I really want to see more regional jets or even turboprops in the country, if RO can fly to IST with ATRs, why wouldn't Anadolu Jet do the same? I always imagine Embraer or ATR props buzzing over smaller airports here but people don't seem to like propellers (even the turboprops) because they think they are dangerous. Too bad.

[Edited 2008-03-02 22:58:57]

User currently offlinePDXBJV From Turkey, joined Apr 2007, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 12371 times:

I think that most of the Turkish people's mentality lies with the bigger the aircraft the safer it is. But hell, even I dont like to ride turboprops!


TK787 PDX-BJV direct????
User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 12359 times:



Quoting Emre767 (Reply 16):
people don't seem to like propellers



Quoting PDXBJV (Reply 17):
the bigger the aircraft the safer it is

Both very correct in Turkey. Not props but CRJs and E-jets we might see.
PDXBJV, about your username, who knows maybe a future TK 787 route?


User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1436 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 12319 times:



Quoting TK787 (Reply 18):
PDXBJV, about your username, who knows maybe a future TK 787 route?

Hehe  Smile



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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 12305 times:



Quoting Emre767 (Reply 13):
They are expecting new 737-800 deliveries

After TC-SNE, Sun Ekspress has two more 738s on order, will be delivered as 737-8HC Boeing customer code. ( HC for Sun Ekspress);
TC-SNF... serial number 36529
TC-SNG...serial number 36530


User currently offlinePDXBJV From Turkey, joined Apr 2007, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 12220 times:



Quoting TK787 (Reply 18):
PDXBJV, about your username, who knows maybe a future TK 787 route?

Hahaha that would be so cool, and definitely shave some travel time off!



TK787 PDX-BJV direct????
User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 12161 times:

Looks like the 3rd 340 is refurebished, the first one done in Turkey, 4 more to go.
http://www.airporthaber.com/hb/detay.php?id=25689 (in Turkish only)
Can anyone confirm if this last one is -JDK, or -JDM?


User currently offlineTKfan From Turkey, joined Oct 2007, 650 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 12153 times:

just read an article on airporthaber.com where it is told that only 3 a340 are reconfigured with the new interior.... and the remainig 4 are due to be reconfigured

Dont know if this is old news, I thought all but two had the new interiors, and the two remaining which were used for hajj flights will be done until the summer season......

I still think they should start with the two leaving A310  duck   Big grin


User currently offlineTKfan From Turkey, joined Oct 2007, 650 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 12147 times:



Quoting TK787 (Reply 4):
Both of them? Where is this taking place? I thought one was to join in Feb, the other in April.

With the speed TK management is working and is organized..... I've still my doubts that these two A340 will join the fleet.... I will believe it when I see it Big grin

Quoting Gokmengs (Reply 5):
Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):


First off thank you for doing this every month, nice and organized.

 checkmark  indeed nice work!!!

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):
Anadolu Jet domestic flights will operate as TK9xx series flight numbers.

Thank you LAXintl for the hint.
Checked the skeds for TZX, they plan a turn-around time of 35min in TZX.... I m curious how this will work, really tight scheduling if it is planned for all flights


25 Post contains images Stylo777 : it is short indeed, but not a big deal for a 734. I've never been to TZX, are there jetways available or boarding/deboarding via stairs into bus or d
26 Post contains images TKfan : No, TZX has no jetbridges, and wont have with its two dozen flights a day I think jetbridges are only at big airports, even SAW, BJV or ADA have no J
27 Post contains images TK787 : Well it looks like the latest converted 310, TC-JCY made its way to IST today. That brings the number of TK cargo 310s to 4? TK is getting predatory
28 TKfan : Actually 3. The fourth, TC-JCZ, should make its way to Dresden the coming months.
29 Stylo777 : if I'm not mistaken I saw 'Ergene' last Sunday in IST
30 Post contains links TKfan : in July, according to atwonline, to be precise
31 777way : They have painetd the belly white too instead of leaving it bare metal.
32 EurostarVA : Gentlemen, Are all of Turkish Airlines' Airbus A340s equipped with PTVs following the economy class refurbishment? I am flying TK on March 17th on the
33 Wing : TC-JGV B737-800 is the first THY airplane wearing the STAR Allıence star on the nose section of the airplane.I saw it today while taxying but I didnt
34 Post contains links Emre767 : Here you can see the A310 "TC-JCV" with Star Alliance sticker: http://www.sanalpilot.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11041 I guess there were also some p
35 TKfan : Today I had some time to read in archived Turkish Aviation Threads, and we are waiting at least two years for a decision!!! Even the announced A340 d
36 Post contains images Stylo777 : there is a post in this forum beneath the picture " bugünleride görebildik ja, artik gözlerimiz arkada kalmaz" .... very true
37 Post contains images Stylo777 : somehow I've the feeling that TK planes will be the new hunting object of all the spotters out there during the next months
38 TK787 : 3 out of 7 TK340s are equipped with PTVs, so who knows if yours will have them. Also TK uses 330s on the JFK route on Weds and Sats, maybe you will g
39 Emre767 : I agree. I'll go further; if TK will introduce a special Star Alliance livery one day, that plane will be the "white whale" of the spotters. Any devi
40 Post contains images Stylo777 : do you remember the A320 in retro livery or 'Bodrum' with the special blue livery??? this will cause the same if not the most sensation for any TK pl
41 Debonair : Merhaba! I could need some help... 1. Where is Golden Air's B757-200 in the moment? Last spotted in Kuwait- is it back in Istanbul? In other news, I h
42 Post contains images Emre767 : Yes I remember, I hope this time they will also use the widebodies to celebrate Star Alliance. It would be interesting to see a special A330 or even
43 Post contains links and images Emrecan : According to http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/yazarlar/8409764.asp?yazarid=41 (only in Turkish) TK will fly to GRU via DKR. They are planning to start these
44 OA260 : Great news that TK is getting closer to the Star Alliance entry date !! BMI has already updated their website on which classes will earn miles. I cant
45 777way : Asiana returning to IST in 2009?
46 Post contains links and images TK787 : Atlasjet in mixed up colors? View Large View MediumPhoto © Martin Djupenstrom What is next for Atlasjet when their fleet eventually returns from
47 TurkishWings : I don't think Asiana ever flew to IST. TK has been code-sharing with Asiana for a number of years now. Korean Air flies to IST 3 times weekly (I thin
48 Post contains images ThereAndBack : I'm glad you had you had a great trip and I would love to see a report. Yes you will get one hot meal breakfast lunch or dinner depending on when the
49 Robcol99 : It did. In the 90s. With 767.
50 Gokmengs : Thanks for the link. I try to read Ugur Cebeci's weekly article, although most of the time he writes about old and irrelevant issues, never criticize
51 TK787 : Also in one of those newspaper articles it says TK will get two more simulators. Which ones? Correct me if I am wrong, here are the ones TK has: -RJ 7
52 TKfan : Sometimes I feel like you about him, but we should not forget he is the pionieer of aviation columns and made a mass to be interested in aviation. He
53 Post contains images Gokmengs : Why Thank you. If you don't look so shallow you would understand the only reason I criticize TK is because their potential is 10 times higher than th
54 TK787 : Gokmengs, I totally agree with you. Besides TK and Turkey all of us have to ask for the unthinkable, should set very high, almost unattainable standa
55 TKfan : My post was about Ugur Cebeci and your comment on him, not of the potentials TK has. Sure Turkey and Turkish Airlines have great potentials, but they
56 Gokmengs : Could not have provided a better example, Thanks TK787. Also I think geographically IST is better positioned than DXB, which makes one wonder even mo
57 Post contains images TKfan : No problem, I m not offended, I think its the purpose of a discussion board OK, i make a quick comparison Similarities: *Both are owned by the govern
58 Gokmengs : You are doing the work for me, those are all the reasons I criticize TK for, so whats our disagreement here? Look back on my posts if TK wasn't the r
59 TKfan : OK, we agree on the fact, TK is abused by the ruling parties, and certainly would have another position if they were 100% independent. Knowing the fa
60 Emrecan : Gokmengs and TKfan: I want to learn your oppinions, if TK can be an airline like EK one day?
61 TKfan : in which manner?? fleet wise, passenger wise or service? The point is Turkish Airlines/Turkey have the potentials and Emirates/Dubai are creating the
62 Post contains links TK787 : I came across this thread from last June, which didn't get any responses: Turkey Senegal Bilateral, And On To GRU, GIG (by TK787 Jun 30 2007 in Civil
63 TK787 : Finally, TC-SNE is making its delivery flight today, march 12th 2008, BFI, KEF, AYT.
64 TKfan : Turkish Airlines and United applied for Codeshare operations at DoT Seems their agreement is more extensive than with AA. TK will put its codes on UAs
65 TK787 : Any codeshare flights out of JFK? To get the most benefits out of this codeshare should ORD go daily? Or a eventual ORD/IAD split will do the trick, a
66 TKfan : out of JFK only to LAX and SFO. As for the flights to ORD, hope they are going to daily, still shows 5/w on their schedules, IAD is announced 3/w. BT
67 TK787 : I would guess ORD. Maybe someone has some numbers. After doing some searches online, ORD is definitely bigger. Also found on a IAD site that TK is alr
68 Post contains images TKfan : TK carried 1.415.985 Passengers in February, this is an increase of +18.5%; YTD 2.888.685 +12.6% If TK were properly run, we would see at least 3 mill
69 Carfield : Just about to ask the entry date... So do you know if April 1 is pretty firm date? I saw a very attractive J fare from ATH to HKG via IST on Turkish A
70 Post contains images TurkishSky : We are the official organizing company for the signoff ceremony for Turkish Airlines' entry to *A. So I am supposed to have updated info *A CEOs are
71 TK787 : A reminder; Only 3 out of 7 "old 340s" have the new interiors with PTVs.
72 Beaucaire : On the long run I think TK can become Europe's forth largest quality airline ( network carriers ) after AF,LH,and BA.. The improvements in fleet,netwo
73 Post contains images Gokmengs : Could they be? Yes. Will they ever be? I don't think so. You don't become a super power of an airline just by ordering mass amounts of planes, which
74 TKfan : Gokmen, I agree to most of your points, one point I do not agree is the fact to involve Turkish Airlines to much into the tourism branch. We have alm
75 TurkishSky : I need to make a correction: it was originally planned as a charter flight but now it will be a scheduled one which is TK 1884 Still with *A livery a
76 TK787 : It could be doable, but please don't forget the competition for that 4th spot: SK, LX, KL, IB, AZ
77 Gokmengs : You misunderstood my point, I'm not saying TK should move its hub from IST to ADB but ADB(just using the Ephesus example), I'm saying UAE would marke
78 Post contains images LTAC03R : For all the folks enthused about the *A deal, more than half the fleet has been carrying the star logo sticker aft of the cockpit windows for the last
79 TK787 : Congrats, So you start as a FO? What type? Best of luck to you, happy landings.
80 TurkishWings : Yesterday, I met the TK manager of France and she told me that ALL TK flights will be transferred to CDG as of this summer. Can anyone confirm this?
81 Post contains images Emrecan : Onur Air MD-83 off the runway in Diyarbakır last night. No major injuries. It was so long to hear this kind of news from Onur Air
82 Post contains images TKfan : No, this time I got it as you intend to say it. Thats why I said part of its fleet. On the other hand TK carries also a large amount of tourists on i
83 Stylo777 : actually LX and KL are far better especially in longhaul operations than TK. we really have to work hard to reach those two airlines this was discuss
84 TKfan : It was, but the newest news is that ALL flights are now out of CDG, the planned new midday flight is now only on friday and again out of CDG. Thats w
85 TK787 : TK's timetable shows both? TK used to fly to EWR long time ago, can't remember when they switched to JFK. In terms of which one is better; well, many
86 Revo : Any more news on IST-BHX with TK?
87 TK787 : I know it is starting 3x weekly as a new service but in terms of timing, not sure. I bet very soon, not only for the coming summer season but with mo
88 Emrecan : The highlight of this month for Turkish Aviation: I've just seen Pilotaydin on msn. He told me that his days are really very hard in the army. Around
89 Post contains links and images Wing : Lets add some spice to usual Turkish aviation thread.Guess what this is?
90 TK787 : a)Israeli check point on the way to Ramallah b)Turkish Space Program Headquarters c)A skyscraper in Hakkari d)None of the above
91 Post contains links and images Wing : Hilarious Another clue ...
92 Stylo777 : Gazipasa (or what is the name of this "new" airport?)
93 TK787 : Gazipasa is in Alanya I think, so how about some Eastern city? Have no idea.
94 Post contains links and images Wing : Eastern "yes",new "no". Here is the answer. The first is the tower,the second is the notorious runway which is 30 meters wide(standard runway is 45m)
95 TK787 : Thanks Wing, Probably an airport I will never see. Looking at the bags, what are the loads on these flights, pax and cargo? Also Agri (AJI) is 5500 ft
96 LTAC03R : Thanks TK787. F/O on the 737. Thanks TKfan. No idea. But the mx hangars are very crowded, so I'm keeping a look out for what comes out.
97 Post contains images TKfan : The first quarter of 2008 is about to end, no announcement yet Dont know if I am to inpatient or that I m to much spoiled of their fast development it
98 Post contains images Bahadir : Wing, that's awesome.. I think that airport is overstaffed with however many flights per day Bahadir In St. Louis at FlightSafety.. Will send some pic
99 Post contains links and images Wing : A standard runway is 148 feet wide,this one is 98 feet wide,so it requires special crew qualification,it has many limits with surface condition,crosw
100 Wing : My guess is, as AKP is facing charges which may result with a closing of the party there is no way that any government organs that may make big decis
101 TK787 : I agree with Wing on the order front. Not only about the political situation but the level where oil prices reached and a nervous world economy will d
102 Wing : I think the oil prices may be a secondary factor for the WB order. To prevent the negative effects of ups and downs of fuel prices THY block buys and
103 Stylo777 : IST is for sure too small to handle the amount of traffic, we all discussed this to death. but isn't it most profitable for an airline to keep their p
104 Post contains images TKfan : I thought we passed the time were politics influence such an order. At least I hoped they realised that such big orders or economic decisions had any
105 Post contains links TK787 : You want orders, here is an order: Actually I was talking to a friend, a.net member "TK350", he asked me to go take a look at this: http://en.wikipedi
106 Emrecan : Is it possible to be real?? 10 777LRs, great !!!!!
107 Post contains images TurkishWings : Extremely unlikely.. Why would they need 777LR? Non-stop LAX flights? Or the rumored non-stop SYD/MEL flights? Or even a non-stop GRU flight? The onl
108 Post contains images TKfan : Indeed, looks quite good, but oviously its a wishfull thinking of a Turkish a.netter
109 Scouseflyer : Could TK be responsible for last week order of 35 copies of the 787?
110 Post contains images Emrecan : Is there any news regarding HABOM project in SAW. I've just bought a flat very close to SAW and waiting some new investments to SAW in order to make m
111 Post contains images TKfan : Construction work should begin in may and finish in a year.... but who knows, this is TK, decisions may take few years This time it should be more se
112 Post contains images Emrecan : A bit off the topic but I bought the flat not because it is close to SAW, I know the constructors (friendship discount) In near future I will be able
113 Post contains images TKfan : Thanks for your invitation, if its one of these buildings, I will come as soon as they are completed
114 Post contains images Emrecan : :D I guess my grandchildren will see those
115 Cmoltay : The building plans for Habom are being prepared by a respectable engineering company. However, I do not know what their deadline is. Regards,
116 Post contains links and images TKfan : Boeing Weekly Orders Update For 3/11/2008 (by NYC777 Mar 13 2008 in Civil Aviation) ....well just dreaming
117 TK787 : This is the first I have heard about this project. Sure enough, it is Zaha Hadid. It would be incredible to have a modern architectural gem like this
118 Emrecan : My flat has no connection with that. I have no idea about the project that TKfan has mentioned. What I've heard is with HABOM project SAW will be enl
119 Post contains images TK787 : I can't remember if someone pointed this out before, but today I realized that on TK's Cargo fleet, "Cargo" is painted in a slightly tilted (Italic) f
120 TK787 : In that same thread someone just pointed out that those 777s are 777-300ERs, so have no idea where this TK 10x 777LR typo is coming from.
121 Cmoltay : The area for the project is the older industrial area in Kartal, between the old stone quarry (the lake) and the sea, where some of the factories are
122 Post contains links and images ThereAndBack : Yeah it is for real. You should read this for more information on the project: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=569079&page=7 This is t
123 Post contains images Cmoltay : Wiki's edit history shows an IP adress (190.17.75.90) that points obviously to an Algerian person or somebody affiliated with Algeria. Most of his/he
124 TK787 : Oh yes, not only TK will be the flag carrier for many many more years, it is even getting uglier. Why? -Dominating Turkish aviation now, and adding 2
125 TKfan : To be honest, I do not mind TK dominating the market. Its not only that i favour TK, but the fact that there are too many Airlines around, though the
126 Post contains images TKfan : Yes its Zaha Hadid. It would be wonderful if this will be realised. I just read the thread ThereAndBack has provided. Seems to be complicated as some
127 TK787 : I disagree. It is easy to forget what it was like before you had choices domestically. If it wasn't for the competition: -Flying would be for the eli
128 Post contains links and images TK787 : Pegasus TC-APH is painted back to full colors now, what airline was it operating for? Here is the old photo: View Large View MediumPhoto © Johann
129 Post contains links Emrecan : http://www.airliners.net/photo/Pegas...v_id=0154762&next_id=NEXTID&size=L On the link above it is seen that PGT is the first owner of TC-APH. The pic
130 Stylo777 : TC-APH flew for Community Airlines in Tanzania
131 Post contains links TK787 : OK, I think, I found it: Pegasus leased the plane to Community Airlines in Tanzania ( http://www.communityair.co.tz/ ) and the above picture shows the
132 TKfan : Please read my post as a whole not the part where you disagree. I never spoke of a monopoly but a domination. Its an easy game for TK when the the ot
133 TKfan : Just read an article on Airporthaber, quoting Milliyet, TK will order a A330/A340 Simulator
134 TK787 : I disagree with TK domination part. I also don't see anything wrong with having many small airlines if they meet the criteria to operate safely. It i
135 TKfan : the initial question was you answered Maybe I was disturbed by the word "uglier", but all the points you mentioned there is a business Plan every capi
136 Cmoltay : Actually, what I had tried to ask was how the title of "Flag Carrier" is obtained? Is it the right to bilaterals, does the CAA designate an airline a
137 TK787 : Well here we go again, So one of the JM 343s has been sitting at a French hangar for a few months now costing JM parking fees. The other one will be
138 Post contains images TKfan : Great investigation I did some search too but couldnt find anything about it. good idea to ask in the Caribbean thread. The only thing I came across
139 TK787 : Sun Ekspress latest 738 TC-SNF had its first flight yesterday March 20th, so it is couple of weeks away from delivery. No news on the last one,TC -SNG
140 Emrecan : Romanian charter company Blue Air dropped IST flights from last week. 2 of their 5 737s are out of service so they've decided to stop IST flights unti
141 Post contains links TK787 : Could this be true? Pegasus leases one of its newest (delivered Jan.2007) 738s (TC-APJ) to Somon Air, a brand new private airline out of Tajikistan. F
142 Bahadir : TT Air and Golden Air bit the dust... now if we can only see AnkaAir (the new name for WorldFocus Airlines) go.. Cheers from St. Louis
143 Post contains images TKfan : "Corn on the head of the others..." The problem is, when two bit the dust, three others will pop up like mushrooms.... next newcomers Turkuaz or what
144 Bahadir : TK787, it's nothing different than any other operations they do outside of the country. The airline is pretty good in terms of distributing eggs in di
145 Post contains links TK787 : http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/yazarlar/...285.asp?yazarid=41&gid=61&sz=30974 (In Turkish) Ugur Cebeci's interview with TK's Kotil. Here are some points:
146 Wing : TC-APJ , I was lucky to fly it when it was brand new.Infact I flew the second commercial flight of this particular airplane.(Better than that was the
147 Post contains images Gokmengs : Thanks for the link, I try to read Cebeci's articles every sunday, but sometimes it seems he writes about something to fill space, and I give up on h
148 TK787 : First of all, Wing thanks so much sharing your experiences with us here. It is always a pleasure. Hi Gokmen, I will give it a shot. Here is a look at
149 Post contains images TurkishWings : Finally.... According to an e-mail I received from TK this morning, Turkish Airlines officially becomes a full Star Alliance member as of April 1, 200
150 TKfan : Back to the interview with Temel Kotil, I think there are two possibilities what he meant by there is no shortage in WB Aircraft. -Either they have se
151 Post contains images ThereAndBack : What color are TK's planes? Are they an off white cream color or is this one just kind of dirty? The Star Alliance sticker looks so much whiter than
152 Post contains images Stylo777 : I think its only dirt, take a look on the nose section which is also whiter than the fuselage. any news out of the paintshop? cant wait to welcome ou
153 Post contains links Stylo777 : on airporthaber.com there are pictures of the 'kiss' of XQ and Sky aircrafts at FMO aircrafts involved in this incident TC-SUM and TC-SKB http://www.a
154 Post contains images TKfan : Some pearls out of airporthaber today: -IzAir will receive three A320, one in 2009 and two in 2010. Its not mentioned if they will be new or used Airc
155 Post contains images Emrecan : Good good.. SAW must be bigger and bigger
156 Post contains images TKfan : Dont worry , additionally to Sun Express there are also some newcomers i.e. Jazeera, SkyEurope and a norwegian LCC (Norwegian? flynordic??). And it s
157 Bahadir : Any pictures of the *A A340 yet?
158 Post contains images TurkishSky : wait until tuesday. i will be on the apron to meet the crowd. i take 1 for you
159 Post contains links and images TK787 : Capitalism at its best! Beko Pegasus: View Large View MediumPhoto © Felix Mayer727
160 Post contains images Bahadir : Ahhh god old PapaDelta. Looks nice.. Ali Sabanci is really doing a good job in terms of charging money for logo jets.
161 Post contains links Emre767 : Well, here is the TK A340 in Star Alliance livery: http://www.sanalpilot.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11222 Credit goes to Mr. Levent Ishakoğlu at Sa
162 Post contains images TKfan : Thank you for the pic! To be honest I didnt understand the hype about the SA Logojet, as they look all identical. I have to admit, even if a blurry p
163 OA260 : Great to finally see the Star logo on the TK metal. Not long to go now just some hours .
164 Post contains links 777way : Air China A330 in special scheme to fly Olympic Torch to Istanbul Air China To Fly Olympic Torch? Destinations? (by 777way Mar 29 2008 in Civil Aviati
165 Gokmengs : That looks really cool. Kind of deserves its own topic so anetters can see it.
166 Post contains links and images Stylo777 : I thought the same Gökmen and opened this new thread TK Star Alliance Livery Unveiled (by Stylo777 Mar 30 2008 in Civil Aviation) hope it doesnt hur
167 LTAC03R : I saw the first Anadolu Jet B734 about 2 hrs ago at ESB. TC-JEZ. Seems it was on a run to BAL and flies again out of ESB to AYT later on this evening.
168 Post contains images Wing : Pegasus seems to admire THY's STAR ALLIENCE and joins to BEKO ALLIENCE I never thought that A340 sould look this beautiful with STAR logo.I can't wait
169 Emrecan : Emre, thnx for the picture.. Just one word.. PERFECT !!
170 Post contains links Emre767 : Cheers : ) Strike number two from Sanalpilot spotters: Anadolu Jet "TC-JEZ" http://www.sanalpilot.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11227 Credits to Mr. K
171 TK787 : It is a fitting paint scheme for TK's low cost unit. Like I said before I wish they painted the tails with more local motives since the name of the a
172 Emrecan : WOW.. The tail logo looks really impressive for Anadolu Jet.. But they could have put some more colours on the fuselage..
173 Emrecan : WOW.. The tail logo looks really impressive for Anadolu Jet.. But they could have put some more colours on the fuselage..
174 Bahadir : Emrecan, I completely agree with you. (when was the last time that happened, hahahahah) AnadoluJet Part reminds me of US Air typeface from 1980s
175 Post contains images ThereAndBack : Recently posted on the TK website Turkish home page.
176 Post contains images Emrecan : We are improving
177 OA260 : Very nice advert , its great to see the Star logo on a TK A/C.
178 Bahadir : Wish they also put some information like 'Operated by Turkish Airlines' under the titles. Thy would have benefited from brand recognition.
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